pooping machine?

JasonM · Post by **JasonM** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:21 am

Our new pup, "Ruby"(I'll post her pedigree soon) - really poops A LOT. I know pups go alot, but this one is nuts. I switched her food from Black Gold Puppy Formula? to Puppy Chow. The stools are all loose, and she goes VERY often. I have to get up at least 2 to 3 times during the night to clean her crate. She was just at the vet, and has no worms, and has a clean bill of health. Could it be a food allergy? I am going broke buying paper towels! Its hard for me to get Black Gold, but I'm not so sure of the problem. I havent seen a turd come out of this dog yet. She is 8 weeks old this week.

Thanks.

snips · Post by **snips** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:11 am

Have you taken a stool in for checking?, may be coccidia or giardia. I would recommend Iams Puppy (I am currently feeding, stools like rocks) or Pro Plan.

Post by **ezzy333** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:27 am

How much are you feeding? What goes in has to come out. IF everything checks out ok I'd try cutting back on feed a little especially in the evening, but she is awfully young to be having trouble or to have to restrict her feed very much.

Ezzy

Post by **Greg Jennings** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:34 am

If not a bug, you might have to do the rice/rice-and-boiled lean beef deal till the pup's stomach settles down.

Best,

Crl · Post by **Crl** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:38 am

Both Snips and Greg are right on the money. One of my pups had coccidia and the vet gave us some meds to clear it up and had us feed rice and boiled burger. Good luck

crl

GRIFF MAN · Post by **GRIFF MAN** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:00 am

Do you give her Raw hide treats.

I had a pup that did this also years ago. We found out it was caused by rawhides that I was giving her. My vet said cheap raw hides can cause the runs.

I quit giving her the raw hides and she stopped immediately.

Post by **pear** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:34 am

Not sure if this relates to JasonM's problem, but I found in giving "rawhide" as a big diarrhea problem. Here is what I found, and it may or may not apply to anybody else. Rawhides soaked in broth flavoring, give all of mine the squirts every time. I started giving only the pure white (unsoaked) rawhides and have not had a problem since. I had actually thought about discontinuing them altogether, but found them very useful in keeping teeth clean and most importantly helps stop chewing on furniture legs and other undesirable items if you provide them something they are allowed to chew and enjoy. I would also caution against rawhides that are not fresh. As they dry out they are no longer chewy and become brittle, allowing large chunks to be swallowed, and that is a completely different discussion. Hope this helps. …”pear”

Post by **ezzy333** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:44 am

I've had the same experience as Pear. I only use the untreated ones.

Ezzy

Wesley Boothe · Post by **Wesley Boothe** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:57 am

Ditto Pear and Ezzy on the untreated rawhides.

Dillier23 · Post by **Dillier23** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:42 am

Puppy Chow is a corn based dog food. Take her off of that and try a better quality meat based food. Puppy Chow/Pedigree/Dog Chow are the most over rated, over advertised junk dog food out there.

JasonM · Post by **JasonM** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:08 am

I havent given her any rawhides. She really doesnt eat that much, maybe 1 -2 cups a day, when Rocco was that young he would eat 6 cups a day easily, and not poop near as much. I did however at one time during Rocco's baby days have to do the boiled rice/leanbeef diet for a few weeks til his stomach settled. I'll start her on that tonight and see what happens. She does have another vet appt. next week.
Thanks.

I find it hard to believe that Purina Puppy Chow is junk but I am somewhat new at this. Rocco did fine growing up on it, and my vet said there is nothing wrong with it, feed what you can afford. I know a guy who feeds his beagles nothing but lunchmeat/ham/salami/cheese ends cutoffs from a local grocery store, they love it, they are in great shape, live long and run and hunt hard? go figure.

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:16 am

I am not going to say it is junk, but I fed Purina Hi-Pro some years ago to my dogs, and was dismayed at the stool consistency (runny) and frequency. I switched to Euk. Premium Perf., (or in your case, Euk. Puppy) and was very pleased with the result. Purina's Pro Plan is also very good.

djswizz · Post by **djswizz** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:47 am

I've never had a problem with rawhides. Been giving them to Guinness since he was 5 mos and he has had no problems. As far as the runs, I agree with everyone saying the meat and rice meal. That will take care of the runs for sure.

Post by **kninebirddog** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:36 am

HAte to say this but all marketing companies have different levels of food they have the low end cheap stuff which they mass market to groceries stroes and super chains...To keep the prices cheap ..guess what they have to do...make the foods as cheap as possble and fill them with fillers

Just because they put a well known name on a bag of food doesn't mean your getting a qualityu food
Purina dog chow lines are the low end lines..your feeding fillers.
the purina one is a little better
pro plan is a better quality
You will find most of your better quality feeds are at feed stores not that they won't sell the cheap end foods for those people who do not care and pick up the cheapest stuff they can find

So a better quality food may help alot ....But along with a better food also rule out any other possible thing which your pup may have.

Post by **ezzy333** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:52 am

And remember to not take too seriously the feed recommendations you see on here and listen to your vet or any animal nutritionist that has studied and researched the field.

I agree with going back to a very bland diet like the rice and cooked meat for a bit and I'll bet that takes care of the problem, then go back gradually to whatever you have been feeding and I'll bet most anything the problem won't return. On the chance it does then change foods till you find something that works.

Good luck and listen to your vet. He knows of what he speaks.

Ezzy

rosiesdad · Post by **rosiesdad** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:55 am

Crl wrote:Both Snips and Greg are right on the money. One of my pups had coccidia and the vet gave us some meds to clear it up and had us feed rice and boiled burger. Good luck

crl

Dont over feed, infact feed 3 small meals a day. If you over feed, or if the pup has coccidia you could have that symptom.
My GSP's did fine on Purina One Puppy Chow, at 6 Mo, I switched em to adult Purina One. Small firm stools. Just dont over feed.
I feed my two adult GSP's 2 1/2 cups of One per day.
IF I remember right, I fed my dog as babies, 1/2 c 3x a day. But always followed the package. (1 1/2 c per day total)

Northern_Hunting_Mom · Post by **Northern_Hunting_Mom** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:04 pm

Vet schools have only elective classes of maybe 15 hours on animal nutrition and the instructors of these classes are usually from Purina, Iams and Hill's. Unless your vet took additional independent training in dog nutrition, he may not be any more knowledgeable than you. These companies even give free food to feed vet students' own pets. An animal nutritionist may have more training but I don't believe there's any regulation there. Anybody can call themselves an animal nutritionist and charge big bucks.

Of the hundreds of hunting dog owners I've chatted with online, none have fed any Purina Chow products, its garbage. Purina One and Pro-Plan are their higher end foods, its worth the extra few bucks to buy it. I feed Eagle Pack to my monsters.

Post by **ezzy333** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:34 pm

If your dog is doing good on Purina One stay with it. Many many dogs have been raised and maintained on it.

Ezzy