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what's the beep function on a e-collar really for?

Post by trigger1989 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:56 pm

I have a sport dog e-collar. It's has nick and continuous stimulation and beep. Is that beep function supposed to be used as a recall or as a warning before you stimulate the dog? Thanks in advance for any replies!

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Re: what's the beep function on a e-collar really for?

Post by ultracarry » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:13 pm

Used for what ever you train your dog to do with the tone. A warning let's them get away with unwanted behavior and is not really useful.

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Re: what's the beep function on a e-collar really for?

Post by Cajun Casey » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:38 pm

One function is to locate the dog or indicate that the dog is on point. If you plan on using it this way, I would hesitate to use it as a correction marker. You don't want the dog thinking it's going to be corrected for holding point.
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Re: what's the beep function on a e-collar really for?

Post by trigger1989 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:51 pm

When you say indicate that the dog is on point do you mean using it like it is a "clicker" to mark the point and let him know he's doing good? I thought it might be used to locate the dog but its such a low level tone unless he was within a few yards I wouldn't be able to hear it.

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Re: what's the beep function on a e-collar really for?

Post by Cajun Casey » Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:11 pm

Does your collar have a beeper, which is a separate piece of equipment or a tone function? Tone function is used to mark behavior. Beeper is loud and has various settings.
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Re: what's the beep function on a e-collar really for?

Post by trigger1989 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:00 am

It's not a different device, its a "tone" setting not a actual beeper sorry about wording that wrong. Using it for marking behavior makes sense thanks a lot for the help!

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Post by Karen » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:17 am

I've heard of people using the vibrate function on some collars as positive reinforcement, so I don't see any reason why the beep couldn't be used that way too....as long as you don't have something like invisible fence at home where the tone is not positive reinforcement.

As far as using tone as a warning....if you feel the need to warn, you should probably be correcting instead...it'll keep you from having to warn over and over and over again and will prevent the dog from ever increasingly pushing that envelope. JMHO
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Post by Mountaineer » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:01 am

A benign reminder tho more a marketing ploy.

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Post by deseeker » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:35 am

I use it as a recall. If you blow a whistle or yell to recall a dog while you are hunting wild pheasants---they'll blow out of there before you even get close :!: :roll: The tone works good as a low volumn recall that only the dog can hear.

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Post by JKP » Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:01 pm

I use the Dogtra collar with the pager....which is only used for one thing....to bring the dog around...back to the front. I like it because only my dog can feel it.....there is no "beep" for other dogs in the area to hear...and I can handle the dog when needed without voice or whistle....quietly....which is all I want to hear when I hunt....the quiet.

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Post by jimbo&rooster » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:39 pm

I use it as a test button to make sure the collar is on.

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Post by ultracarry » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:42 pm

jimbo&rooster wrote:I use it as a test button to make sure the collar is on.

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Post by birddog1968 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:53 pm

I use it to indicate i've taken a new direction or like singing out or whistling to the dog. Nice silent over this way..... Never on point or around a bird.
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Post by bluestemkennels » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:47 pm

deseeker wrote:I use it as a recall. If you blow a whistle or yell to recall a dog while you are hunting wild pheasants---they'll blow out of there before you even get close :!: :roll: The tone works good as a low volumn recall that only the dog can hear.
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Re: what's the beep function on a e-collar really for?

Post by bwjohn » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:51 pm

my dog responds to any command needed by the tone, just as if I had used one of the other settings. but really do not have to use it very much.


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Re: what's the beep function on a e-collar really for?

Post by SHORTFAT » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:01 am

Well... have ya ever been watchin' tv and heard a "beep" when someone says a cuss word?.. Dog trainers need lots and lots of "beeps"... :mrgreen:
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Re: what's the beep function on a e-collar really for?

Post by gonehuntin' » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:48 am

I would never use it as a correction, or warning. If you're going to correct the dog, correct him, don't warn him.

I do think it has value using it as a whistle, as for recall or range shortening. Any command the dog works with by whistle, can be substituted with the collar and you'll hunt far quieter. One beep for whoa, two for no, three for come; same as a whistle.
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Re: what's the beep function on a e-collar really for?

Post by Sharon » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:20 am

I use it to call in a deaf dog . ( medically not just ignoring me :) )
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Post by brad27 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:34 pm

Sharon wrote:I use it to call in a deaf dog . ( medically not just ignoring me :) )
Don't you mean "vibrate" :P

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Re: what's the beep function on a e-collar really for?

Post by DuckSlayer » Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:42 pm

i have the camo waterdog sportdog collar and i use the beeper as a call back

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Post by trigger1989 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:20 am

I like gonehuntin's reply. One beep for a command 2 beeps for another and so on and so. I'm going to work on that and see where it takes me. Everyone else thanks for your input, didn't know the beep could be used in so many ways

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Re: what's the beep function on a e-collar really for?

Post by DonF » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:27 am

My first collar was a DT Systems mod 300. It had one button with instent shock. I could do it continues or momentary, best collar I ever had. I've never, for some reason, forgot where my thumb was and have never used the wrong thumb!
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Post by SHORTFAT » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:36 am

I have a very soft dog that does not respond well to electric stimulation. I am very gentle with her, and I use the vibrate/tone for recall. It works great and I'm not yelling or constantly blowing on a whistle... I can quietly and gently work my dog... great tool...
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Re: what's the beep function on a e-collar really for?

Post by BillGraves » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:43 pm

I have the Sportdog Beeper/E-collar also and use the "Run Mode" button as a recall and "locate" button to make the thing shut up when we are just going for a free-run but still want to use the collar for recall!

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Re: what's the beep function on a e-collar really for?

Post by mountaindogs » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:11 pm

If you are in the positive type of camp, you might have a "no reward marker" this could be either tone or vibrate, and verbal whatever you like. Difference between a no reward marker and a correction are that no reward markers can be used IN training, and not just after the dog understands. The NRM HELPs them learn and is not followed by a correction.
Personally I wouldn't want to use a tone sounding NRM though, I dont think. To many other things to confuse for the dog.

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