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Could a German shorthaired pointer make it to Ames?
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If you don't care, why are commenting?ElhewPointer wrote:+1JKP wrote:Think a quarter horse will ever win the Derby. Think a thoroughbred will ever win a 150 mile endurance race???
Think a stocker will ever win a Formula 1race?? Greyhounds win the Iditarod?? Pointers finish in large pack hare trials??
Who cares??
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Thanks for the stroll down memory lane Doc. I've been over and run stubbies with the stubby guy your standing next to in this years aaa photo,was in preparation for the sharptail CH a couple years back,looked like acceptable races to me,flinging out and getting with it,dogs were Mike(Hardrock's Mr Destiny) Chrissy and Dash.They could really cover the ground.
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Thanks for the pics and post Doc.
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Scroll down about midway for more about Stitch. I've always wanted to know more about his dam.
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Great link casey, my buddy is going to love it his dogs are all of the greif line and most of the older dogs are on his pedigrees,I also hauled think blue and mr millbrad around in the truck one day on the continuous course.I hunted with a daughter of prima banae and beirs evolution, snips actually had that dog,she was the yardstick I judge the gsp by.
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How many of the Open Qualifying All Age stakes have you seen a gsp or britt win? Amatuer Ch dont get ya to Ames
Has nothing to do with luck just boot leather and a fine GWP...
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A better question might be? Has there ever been a conteniental breed dog run in a national qualifying stake. If so who might it be!!!!!! When you find that out, you'll probally realize there is really no interests from those groups in participating. Dream on boys!!!
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I'm guessing you haven't read this thread.myerstenn wrote:A better question might be? Has there ever been a conteniental breed dog run in a national qualifying stake. If so who might it be!!!!!! When you find that out, you'll probally realize there is really no interests from those groups in participating. Dream on boys!!!
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brad27 wrote:If you don't care, why are commenting?ElhewPointer wrote:+1JKP wrote:Think a quarter horse will ever win the Derby. Think a thoroughbred will ever win a 150 mile endurance race???
Think a stocker will ever win a Formula 1race?? Greyhounds win the Iditarod?? Pointers finish in large pack hare trials??
Who cares??
Because this thread is comical.
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Obviously you dont have an idea what it takes to qualify. In my opinion there has never been one qualified in recent memory!!!!!! That is to run ,the traditional pointer and setter national the second weekend in febuary. If you are asking me, were the previously mentioned dogs qualifiers. My response would be ,Idont remember them being run in the event mentioned, If they were qualified Iam sure they would of run just to make historybrad27 wrote:I'm guessing you haven't read this thread.myerstenn wrote:A better question might be? Has there ever been a conteniental breed dog run in a national qualifying stake. If so who might it be!!!!!! When you find that out, you'll probally realize there is really no interests from those groups in participating. Dream on boys!!!
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This has been addressed several times in this thread. That is what Brad was talking about.myerstenn wrote:A better question might be? Has there ever been a conteniental breed dog run in a national qualifying stake.
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With this thread to this point I have only answered the questions as asked (which at it's core is basically "is it possible?") and have done so honestly and sincerely, based on my experiences and the absolute fact that there are many examples of pointers/setters that have qualified and/or run at Nat'ls that have in other AA championships, been bested by GSP's. To claim or even imagine that the same thing couldn't happen in a Nat. Qualifying Open Ch, especially in our neck of the woods where those same dogs running in the Am Ch's typically make up the field in the Open Ch's often run on the same exact grounds, is just plain being ignorant of reason. 'nuff said.
Now, since it seems most folks, rather than addressing the simple question as asked, seem to be more focused on if a GSP/britt will actually ever win two qualifiers, and if upon doing so, go and win the thing. I'd have to say the answer is no. Honestly I don't know any GSP/britt person,including myself, that really cares enough to put forth the effort to try and do it. heck, I don't even like field trials that much, they kind of bore me - wouldn't shed a tear if I never did another. Personally, I end up participating in the occasional Nat. Qual. trial (I'll probably do two next spring) just out of pure opportunity because nothing else happens to be going on at the time not because I'm campaigning a dog to qualify for Nat'ls. I could have went to one, and actually took the time off in case I decided to go, a couple weeks ago in California, but decided to go hunting for the week instead (knowing full well my dog had just came out on top of many of the dogs that would be entered, in fact the dog that won we've come out on top of a couple times before and the RU is pictured in this very thread with my dog standing right next to him in the winner's circle). Honestly I doubt I'd waste my time or money if I ever did have a dog qualify but that's so far beyond comprehension or likelihood it's not worth the time to even ponder it.
Anyway, could it happen? Absolutely. Will it happen? Odds are lonnggg, lonnnngg on no. Factual, reasoned, and sincere answers.
Now, since it seems most folks, rather than addressing the simple question as asked, seem to be more focused on if a GSP/britt will actually ever win two qualifiers, and if upon doing so, go and win the thing. I'd have to say the answer is no. Honestly I don't know any GSP/britt person,including myself, that really cares enough to put forth the effort to try and do it. heck, I don't even like field trials that much, they kind of bore me - wouldn't shed a tear if I never did another. Personally, I end up participating in the occasional Nat. Qual. trial (I'll probably do two next spring) just out of pure opportunity because nothing else happens to be going on at the time not because I'm campaigning a dog to qualify for Nat'ls. I could have went to one, and actually took the time off in case I decided to go, a couple weeks ago in California, but decided to go hunting for the week instead (knowing full well my dog had just came out on top of many of the dogs that would be entered, in fact the dog that won we've come out on top of a couple times before and the RU is pictured in this very thread with my dog standing right next to him in the winner's circle). Honestly I doubt I'd waste my time or money if I ever did have a dog qualify but that's so far beyond comprehension or likelihood it's not worth the time to even ponder it.
Anyway, could it happen? Absolutely. Will it happen? Odds are lonnggg, lonnnngg on no. Factual, reasoned, and sincere answers.
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Thanks Coop, for a second I thought it was MY reading comprehension that was off.ACooper wrote:This has been addressed several times in this thread. That is what Brad was talking about.myerstenn wrote:A better question might be? Has there ever been a conteniental breed dog run in a national qualifying stake.
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DGFavor wrote:With this thread to this point I have only answered the questions as asked (which at it's core is basically "is it possible?") and have done so honestly and sincerely, based on my experiences and the absolute fact that there are many examples of pointers/setters that have qualified and/or run at Nat'ls that have in other AA championships, been bested by GSP's. To claim or even imagine that the same thing couldn't happen in a Nat. Qualifying Open Ch, especially in our neck of the woods where those same dogs running in the Am Ch's typically make up the field in the Open Ch's often run on the same exact grounds, is just plain being ignorant of reason. 'nuff said.
Now, since it seems most folks, rather than addressing the simple question as asked, seem to be more focused on if a GSP/britt will actually ever win two qualifiers, and if upon doing so, go and win the thing. I'd have to say the answer is no. Honestly I don't know any GSP/britt person,including myself, that really cares enough to put forth the effort to try and do it. heck, I don't even like field trials that much, they kind of bore me - wouldn't shed a tear if I never did another. Personally, I end up participating in the occasional Nat. Qual. trial (I'll probably do two next spring) just out of pure opportunity because nothing else happens to be going on at the time not because I'm campaigning a dog to qualify for Nat'ls. I could have went to one, and actually took the time off in case I decided to go, a couple weeks ago in California, but decided to go hunting for the week instead (knowing full well my dog had just came out on top of many of the dogs that would be entered, in fact the dog that won we've come out on top of a couple times before and the RU is pictured in this very thread with my dog standing right next to him in the winner's circle). Honestly I doubt I'd waste my time or money if I ever did have a dog qualify but that's so far beyond comprehension or likelihood it's not worth the time to even ponder it.
Anyway, could it happen? Absolutely. Will it happen? Odds are lonnggg, lonnnngg on no. Factual, reasoned, and sincere answers.
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It will never happen, Why would someone place a breed other than a pointer or setter in the top spot of a qualifying event. So he could be shamed out of ever judging again? SO he could be the laughing stock of the pointer/setter world? Like it or not its breed specific.
If i took the greatest all age pointer docked his tail and ran him in a qualifying event and he performed far better than any other dog he wouldnt even place, but if he had a tail he would have placed first.
I am ok with it. Thats why there are breed specific events. How many pointers do you see running in the ABC? How many do you see running in the NGSPA championship?
I supppoose if i had millions of dollars to waste i would try to get one in but even then it probably would happen.
If i took the greatest all age pointer docked his tail and ran him in a qualifying event and he performed far better than any other dog he wouldnt even place, but if he had a tail he would have placed first.
I am ok with it. Thats why there are breed specific events. How many pointers do you see running in the ABC? How many do you see running in the NGSPA championship?
I supppoose if i had millions of dollars to waste i would try to get one in but even then it probably would happen.
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You forgot to read the thread, didn't you.jasonw99 wrote:It will never happen, Why would someone place a breed other than a pointer or setter in the top spot of a qualifying event. So he could be shamed out of ever judging again? SO he could be the laughing stock of the pointer/setter world? Like it or not its breed specific.
If i took the greatest all age pointer docked his tail and ran him in a qualifying event and he performed far better than any other dog he wouldnt even place, but if he had a tail he would have placed first.
I am ok with it. Thats why there are breed specific events. How many pointers do you see running in the ABC? How many do you see running in the NGSPA championship?
I supppoose if i had millions of dollars to waste i would try to get one in but even then it probably would happen.
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jasonw99 wrote:It will never happen, Why would someone place a breed other than a pointer or setter in the top spot of a qualifying event. So he could be shamed out of ever judging again? SO he could be the laughing stock of the pointer/setter world? Like it or not its breed specific.
If i took the greatest all age pointer docked his tail and ran him in a qualifying event and he performed far better than any other dog he wouldnt even place, but if he had a tail he would have placed first.
I am ok with it. Thats why there are breed specific events. How many pointers do you see running in the ABC? How many do you see running in the NGSPA championship?
I supppoose if i had millions of dollars to waste i would try to get one in but even then it probably would happen.
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The world has always been out to get poor Jason.
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Every dog at the NGSPA is a Pointer.jasonw99 wrote:I am ok with it. Thats why there are breed specific events. How many pointers do you see running in the ABC? How many do you see running in the NGSPA championship?
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I am not going to read 3 pages of nonsense. The original post asked if a shorthair could make it ames and win. I said no and explained why... Did i miss something?slistoe wrote:You forgot to read the thread, didn't you.jasonw99 wrote:It will never happen, Why would someone place a breed other than a pointer or setter in the top spot of a qualifying event. So he could be shamed out of ever judging again? SO he could be the laughing stock of the pointer/setter world? Like it or not its breed specific.
If i took the greatest all age pointer docked his tail and ran him in a qualifying event and he performed far better than any other dog he wouldnt even place, but if he had a tail he would have placed first.
I am ok with it. Thats why there are breed specific events. How many pointers do you see running in the ABC? How many do you see running in the NGSPA championship?
I supppoose if i had millions of dollars to waste i would try to get one in but even then it probably would happen.
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The most nonsense in the whole thread is in your post.jasonw99 wrote:I am not going to read 3 pages of nonsense. The original post asked if a shorthair could make it ames and win. I said no and explained why... Did i miss something?slistoe wrote:You forgot to read the thread, didn't you.jasonw99 wrote:It will never happen, Why would someone place a breed other than a pointer or setter in the top spot of a qualifying event. So he could be shamed out of ever judging again? SO he could be the laughing stock of the pointer/setter world? Like it or not its breed specific.
If i took the greatest all age pointer docked his tail and ran him in a qualifying event and he performed far better than any other dog he wouldnt even place, but if he had a tail he would have placed first.
I am ok with it. Thats why there are breed specific events. How many pointers do you see running in the ABC? How many do you see running in the NGSPA championship?
I supppoose if i had millions of dollars to waste i would try to get one in but even then it probably would happen.
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Jason,
Here is what you missed by giving your uninformed opinion instead of seeking an education and reading this informational thread. I know many of the judges of the qualifying trials, and I know for a fact that they would put up a stripped, 3 legged, tailess, cock-a-poo if it was the best dog. I know because they have used my Bitts when they earned it.
Now the lack of a tail is problematic, as a tail is judged on a pointer/setter, I have heard them say of my dog. He might not have much of a tail, but what he does have is sticking straight up.
So I agree with Doug and others, it is unlikely to happen, but not due to unfair judging.
You need to get to more trials.
Here is what you missed by giving your uninformed opinion instead of seeking an education and reading this informational thread. I know many of the judges of the qualifying trials, and I know for a fact that they would put up a stripped, 3 legged, tailess, cock-a-poo if it was the best dog. I know because they have used my Bitts when they earned it.
Now the lack of a tail is problematic, as a tail is judged on a pointer/setter, I have heard them say of my dog. He might not have much of a tail, but what he does have is sticking straight up.
So I agree with Doug and others, it is unlikely to happen, but not due to unfair judging.
You need to get to more trials.
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Again, gsp, possible. Britt, not a chance. Britts are a weekend/house dog
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I read the ENTIRE thread and I kinda have to think Jason might be on to something.... Really lets take a look as some history here... There has been a very prominate person caught with a dog that did not DNA, wrong papers or whatever it was. Then you have all these pups born on that magical day! So tell me again if a dog other than a ENGLISH pointer or ENGLISH setter has a snow balls chance in Arizona/Ames....
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I've responded on this thread multiple times without ever answering the question, which I believe is a two part one. Could a GSP or Britt make it to Ames? I think yes, if someone wanted to take the time and money to get it qualified. I would be curious to see how many people are actually running short tails in national qualifiers. I'll bet not many. Could a GSP or Brit win at Ames? Since it qualified it has what it takes to run there, but I don't think it could win.
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Definately. It is the people mixing up dogs and registering on the wrong dates that are keeping GSP's off the steps at ames?
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If you are talking about On Line, it might be worthwhile to note that his brother will be inducted into the HOF in February.TAK wrote:I read the ENTIRE thread and I kinda have to think Jason might be on to something.... Really lets take a look as some history here... There has been a very prominate person caught with a dog that did not DNA, wrong papers or whatever it was. Then you have all these pups born on that magical day! So tell me again if a dog other than a ENGLISH pointer or ENGLISH setter has a snow balls chance in Arizona/Ames....
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Yes sir thats the reason....TAK wrote:I read the ENTIRE thread and I kinda have to think Jason might be on to something.... Really lets take a look as some history here... There has been a very prominate person caught with a dog that did not DNA, wrong papers or whatever it was. Then you have all these pups born on that magical day! So tell me again if a dog other than a ENGLISH pointer or ENGLISH setter has a snow balls chance in Arizona/Ames....
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No... But with all this above table action we see, do you really think they will let one in? What we need here is a SEABISKET! The dog that knowone wanted, the handler that did not conform, the dream to be the champion the heart of a winner!!!!Winchey wrote:Definately. It is the people mixing up dogs and registering on the wrong dates that are keeping GSP's off the steps at ames?
it was already said... Who wants to put the OTHER dog up over the ENGLISH! Could you be that judge? Can you bank on others. History runs deep man!
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Don't mistake my comments as that any of these dogs are not deserving... I am just saying that history and traditions run a bit more thick in the blood.Cajun Casey wrote:If you are talking about On Line, it might be worthwhile to note that his brother will be inducted into the HOF in February.TAK wrote:I read the ENTIRE thread and I kinda have to think Jason might be on to something.... Really lets take a look as some history here... There has been a very prominate person caught with a dog that did not DNA, wrong papers or whatever it was. Then you have all these pups born on that magical day! So tell me again if a dog other than a ENGLISH pointer or ENGLISH setter has a snow balls chance in Arizona/Ames....
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I had my first birddog when I was 16. I trained him and had him pretty solid when I got on AKC's website and looked up a trial near by. It was a Britt trial. I called up to ask how to enter Harley and when they found out he wasn't a Britt the lady told me that I couldn't be expected to know it because I was new, but I would be better off not coming since he was a Shorthair. Put me off so bad I didn't run my first AKC trial for another ten years.
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It is a different game, for sure. Speaking of Thoroughbred analogies, I would rather have an Eclipse than a Seabiscuit any day. Also, while he may have fallen to a nobody horse that nobody wanted, War Admiral's name is in the Studbook. Seabiscuit was a media darling for a short while but was, alas, a gelding.TAK wrote:Don't mistake my comments as that any of these dogs are not deserving... I am just saying that history and traditions run a bit more thick in the blood.Cajun Casey wrote:If you are talking about On Line, it might be worthwhile to note that his brother will be inducted into the HOF in February.TAK wrote:I read the ENTIRE thread and I kinda have to think Jason might be on to something.... Really lets take a look as some history here... There has been a very prominate person caught with a dog that did not DNA, wrong papers or whatever it was. Then you have all these pups born on that magical day! So tell me again if a dog other than a ENGLISH pointer or ENGLISH setter has a snow balls chance in Arizona/Ames....
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Are ya some sort of hisotry of animals buff? heck I only seen the show!
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They can't handle some competition infringing. Closed trials are a joke.Stoneface wrote:I had my first birddog when I was 16. I trained him and had him pretty solid when I got on AKC's website and looked up a trial near by. It was a Britt trial. I called up to ask how to enter Harley and when they found out he wasn't a Britt the lady told me that I couldn't be expected to know it because I was new, but I would be better off not coming since he was a Shorthair. Put me off so bad I didn't run my first AKC trial for another ten years.
Re: Could a German shorthaired pointer make it to Ames?
A lot of these posts talk about pointers and setters at Ames. I think it is worth noting that a setter has not won in over 40 years, although a few do qualify every year.
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.TAK wrote:Are ya some sort of hisotry of animals buff? heck I only seen the show!
I read the book
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Comparing apples and oranges....why would an apple even want to be an orange?
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Because it likes Florida better than Washington?JKP wrote:Comparing apples and oranges....why would an apple even want to be an orange?
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Aren't the AA GSP guys trying to mimick the pointer game?
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Are'nt there a lot of gsps and britts that have a lot of english pointer crossed into them? Same goes for setters. One would'nt think they got their big run and intensity by magic. I'm not knocking anyone or their dogs, I have heard this on more than one occasion and I'm just asking.
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That I can not answer... They may? So what is it that the Pointer game playing?Winchey wrote:Aren't the AA GSP guys trying to mimick the pointer game?
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Putting games for games sake aside (and there's nothing wrong with games)...assuming competitions are also meant to identify the best dogs for breeding...is there anyone out there that's complaining about POS GSPs because they can't/don't compete with Pointers?? I mean, besides for the cheap plated trophies, does it really matter to the 99% that are looking for a good hunting dog??
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What is a POS GSP?JKP wrote:Putting games for games sake aside (and there's nothing wrong with games)...assuming competitions are also meant to identify the best dogs for breeding...is there anyone out there that's complaining about POS GSPs because they can't/don't compete with Pointers?? I mean, besides for the cheap plated trophies, does it really matter to the 99% that are looking for a good hunting dog??
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Re: Could a German shorthaired pointer make it to Ames?
bb560m wrote:They can't handle some competition infringing. Closed trials are a joke.Stoneface wrote:I had my first birddog when I was 16. I trained him and had him pretty solid when I got on AKC's website and looked up a trial near by. It was a Britt trial. I called up to ask how to enter Harley and when they found out he wasn't a Britt the lady told me that I couldn't be expected to know it because I was new, but I would be better off not coming since he was a Shorthair. Put me off so bad I didn't run my first AKC trial for another ten years.
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Re: Could a German shorthaired pointer make it to Ames?
How many Britts do they allow in the GSP trials? They did not invite any to the invitational.
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http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=207
It's not how many breaths you have taken but how many times it has been taken away!
Has anyone noticed common sense isn't very common anymore.
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=207
It's not how many breaths you have taken but how many times it has been taken away!
Has anyone noticed common sense isn't very common anymore.
- ElhewPointer
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Re: Could a German shorthaired pointer make it to Ames?
This will make a few happy im sure. The lack of knowledge on this forum is unreal. Lack of knowledge isn't a bad thing, but when the lack of knowledge doesn't understand that they have a lack of said knowledge, thats when I can't handle it. I will no longer be posting on this board. Good luck to all of you with your dogs no matter what the goal is.
- Brazosvalleyvizslas
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Re: Could a German shorthaired pointer make it to Ames?
It specifically says right on Ames website, English Pointers/English Setters not all pointing breeds.