weimaraner

ohiogsp · Post by **ohiogsp** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:13 pm

I have a 1991 gmc sierra 1500 Z71. It has 190,000 miles, 350 gas engine, and pulls 7000lbs+ all the time. It has taken more abuse than anything I ever owned. I plan on driving it anouther 100,000. It just started burning a little oil about half a quart for 3000 miles.

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:19 pm

Like I said, the engine is one thing, the drive train another. Better plan on replacing something major shortly after 200,000 - especially if you tow alot. One day you will be parked uphill, you will put it in gear, and the engine will work fine but the truck just won't go. It will happen in the winter.

Trust me. BTDT

Post by **Greg Jennings** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:30 pm

John,

What do you think a preventive overhaul at 200K would cost?

If I know, I'll just set up an automatic transfer out of my check and just do it at 200K whether it needs it or not.

Best,

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:47 pm

The problem is you don't know. Most often it is the tranny, which just wears out at that point. But I also had the rear diff. go on my first suburban, the 1983, which I used to do the most towing. The trannys were a weakness in the 6.2's.

Unfortunately, it is the car that will tell you.

Tranny's used to cost about $1,500, the differential back in about 1989 or 90 was about $1,200.

Every roughly 120,000 miles you will need to budget a new injection pump. You have no "tune-ups" like a gas engine, but the injector pump just dies instead. You also need to budget new injectors every 200,000 or so.

Also if you have 4WD the front end is going to go somewhere after 200,000, and it is not uncommon to have to replace one or both front axles and/or their receiver assembly in the wheel - oh, and the transfer case.

All those major items become vulnerable once you get past the 200 mark.

They start to get pretty expensive after about 200,000. You could get away with it, or just buy a new one. Having tried it the first way, I am going with the second. I get that new car smell every few years this way.

Post by **Greg Jennings** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:54 pm

Sounds like about $4K per 200K.

I one of those weird folks that prefers "paid for" to new car smell.

That said, I'll take extra care with the automatic tranny, the differentials and the transfer case. Sounds like some extra care there will yield benefits.

Best,

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:05 pm

I wish I could say that was true. I took pains to do all the required maintenance and then some. But things just wear out. At today's prices I would say you are probably closer to 5 or 6 thousand per 200 thousand.

Oh, I forgot the blower/turbo. I you have one of those it will need to be replaced or repaired somewhere around 200 also. $3,000.

You can get the work done for significantly less if you stay away from dealerships and go to the little diesel specialty shops. Takes some looking, but they are way cheaper by as much as half.

GsPJustin · Post by **GsPJustin** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:29 pm

My dad has put over 300,000 on the last 3 chevy vans he had. All in great condition when he sold, im getting a chevy S-10. CHEVY FAMILY, dont like imports dont like Fords.

Buzz · Post by **Buzz** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:48 pm

I'm not much of a truck guy but I just picked up a 1986 F150 with 50,000 original miles and she's a beauty.....and I have a Weim....what were we talking about again ??

snips · Post by **snips** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:20 pm

I like our Diesel, but with the price of it the last couple of years we would have done better without it. Our good friend that owns several Ford dealerships says gas engine is the better way to go.

Sorno · Post by **Sorno** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:46 pm

I was reading a long and next thing ya know there was no more talk of dogs.

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:36 pm

Or of which breed is better than which. You noticed that huh?

gary · Post by **gary** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:56 pm

JOHN,

Would have to switch back to GSP's if my old truck goes belly up,because
don't think I could afford the asking price of a new truck.

Gary

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:00 pm

You are right, they are cheaper.

GsPJustin · Post by **GsPJustin** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:59 pm

Sad thing that its gotta turn into, "mine is better than yours".

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:12 pm

Huh, my gas is better than any two diesels put together.

Post by **Greg Jennings** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:12 pm

Wagonmaster wrote:Huh, my gas is better than any two diesels put together.

That's rank!

The under dog · Post by **The under dog** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:18 pm

tobysmith06 wrote:any one hunt behind a weimaraner? have a good deal on one if i want it. thinking of getting one. have owned and hunted behind several gsp. any comparisons? also regards to any gun dog. question on puppies, grandparents hunted but parents dont hunt, so will the puppies hunt or not hunt, or does it matter? thanks for the help

I am the owner of a American weimaraner, the parents also dont hunt, They comes in fact from a show line, however, when she was a puppies she was pointing on a small bird.

We do field work with its and she has shown already beautiful work and even if three qualifications gained, also she has gained already beautiful points during hunting tests and she shows very beautiful work during hunting. For hunting photograph to see our site
http://home.wanadoo.nl/fvanmarion/de_we ... e_hond.htm
http://home.wanadoo.nl/fvanmarion/Nieuw ... ht%205.htm
http://home.wanadoo.nl/fvanmarion/Nieuw ... ht%204.htm
http://home.wanadoo.nl/fvanmarion/Nieuw ... 20twee.htm
http://home.wanadoo.nl/fvanmarion/Nieuw ... index.html
Greetings

smilinicon · Post by **smilinicon** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 5:25 pm

ugh.. I come to this site to forget work (auto industry)

I had an epileptic weim long ago and I hope I never go there again. That fool with the camera that dressed up his weim's sure made them a backyard breeders favorite. A true shame. I grew up on stories of my father's weims and they hold a spot in my heart.

great avatar pic, Under dog. Welcome to the site.

very good photo album too. I wish I spoke the language.

Cary

nj gsp · Post by **nj gsp** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:57 pm

A friend of mine was just telling me about a Weim he had many years ago. It was never trained beyond basic obedience, but that dog would hunt & figured out how to retrieve to hand on his own.

He was telling me there was one spot on public land near him that had a big swamp next to one of the parking areas. Wounded birds would often fly into the swamp, and most guys wouldn't go after them into the muck.

There were several occasions where he said he pulled into the lot, let the dog out, and it would tear off into the swamp. Before he got his gun out of the case, the dog would have brought a bird back to the truck.

Weim's are beautiful dogs, I was not aware the show breeders were taking the hunt out of the dog. But that has been done to other breeds before, so I guess I should not be surprised.

I'm no pro but everything I've read says to get the dog on birds early & often. So if you can get the dog on birds I guess you'd find out soon enough what the dog can do.

gary · Post by **gary** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:29 am

Also Welcome & Happy holidays.

Weims are a Great Dog as most breeds are.
I love the family devotion they have over
our other English-German pointers.
DON'T WAIT,,, GET A WEIM !

GARY

firecop019 · Post by **firecop019** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:37 pm

I agree I have 2 weims, well actually 8 but 6 are just pups. They were unexpected addition but we are doing ok with them. They are wonderful and loving dogs. My first one misses the standard by a long shot being about 4-5 inches taller, and a blue but he does hunt. I had the opportunity this year to plant a couple of birds for him. He didn't know what he was getting into though with that being his first exposure to a live bird. He put them both up and we managed to bring one home.

Happy Holidays to all!

Dan

Margaret · Post by **Margaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:15 pm

This reminded me, just prior to Christmas someone advertised a litter of Weims on our internet trading site here, chocolate and 1 grey. Not registered with KC $500.
I emailed them and said did they realise you can't get chocolate Weim and that a bitch can be mated by more than one sire and have pups by more than one sire.
I got a reply that the bitch had been bred back to the old original bloodhound line and that is why chocolate had come forward, and it was a popular colour so why not? Their bitch was chocolate, sire grey.
Silly me replied that who they brought their bitch from had sold them a line, but I hoped their pups all found loving homes. Perhaps they should get a book on Weims and learn of history.
Then I get back that "it had just happened" and that show people like me (??) had ruined the breed etc. and that Weims have tests to do a 12hr blood track etc etc. I could stick it up my....

Served me right of course, I did laugh to myself, but it really annoys me the false advertising that goes on. And heck, they could have just called them Weimalabs and maybe got $1000 a pup with all the other designer mutts selling on there. Especially with the bs about outcrosses having no hereditary defects

gary · Post by **gary** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:36 am

Margaret,

Thanks for being candid and I too agree with this statement...

( show people like me (??) had ruined the breed etc.)

Thirty years ago I was told not to try for "Dual Champion"because the bench minded Wein Assn was run by SHOW DOG standard and that they purposely set the standards eliminateing the deep chested run dogs with birdy instints.Thanks to the breeders went quitely kept breeding the hunting dogs that all the Bench people need and want today.

The pup under Author "GARY' has 6 generations of Field Champions parents.

h20fwlkillr · Post by **h20fwlkillr** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:51 am

I have 2 weims. Both are great hunters and companions. I've owned alot of different breeds over the years, but I get more enjoyment from my weims than any of the others.

Post by **Ayres** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:27 am

Welcome aboard and to the discussion! Weims aren't exactly my cup of tea, but I have seen some good ones in the field. Good looks too. I expect most people's idea of a breed they don't own is pretty much the same, being something like "that's nice, but just not for me." No offense is meant by it. A person owning a dog from every single breed is impractical. There are just little preference features that make each of us decide on the breed that best fits us.

Kurzhaar · Post by **Kurzhaar** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:41 am

I've thought about importing a Weimeraner from Germany to run through the German tests here in the USA. It would be just for giggles and grins.

Jim

h20fwlkillr · Post by **h20fwlkillr** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:22 pm

The German bred weims are even more demanding than the ones bred here, but well worth it.

Here are a couple pics of hunting trips this year. My female is more of an upland dog, but my male loves waterfowl.

My son got his first two ducks this year.

The under dog · Post by **The under dog** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:42 pm

Complete beautiful photograph h20fwlkillr

Why those vest are.

Fred

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