Looking at a new puppy...
- Brushbustin Sporting Dogs
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Looking at a new puppy...
I'm always looking for my next superstar I'm very picky with my dogs. I sometimes think paper means too much to me. I looked at these pups on line from Godfathers Gundogs Denver CO. He has a guy back out so he has a spot for me. I'm wanting a field trial dog probably gundog stakes more so than AA. Here is the breeding what do you ya'll think should be a stellar dog or atleast have the potential.http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=970 I've fell in love with anything Beans Blaze breed. I see that Noble Rocket would be a littermate to Blaze. And next generation back has a ton more Beans Blaze which all comes from the Bandee line. Worth $600??
Robert Myers
Rajin Kennel
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Brittanys are Best enough said...
BBD's Ca-Ching
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=1061
Brushbustin's Ebbie SH
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=678
BNJ's Dirty Dozen Dixie
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=869
Rajin Kennel
308-870-3448
Brittanys are Best enough said...
BBD's Ca-Ching
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=1061
Brushbustin's Ebbie SH
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=678
BNJ's Dirty Dozen Dixie
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=869
- Kiki's Mom
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Yes...worth the price. I'm sending you a PM ...I have 2 males you may want to take a look at pedigree wise too...
Helen, Kiki
& the Wild Mtn Brittany Gang
www.wildmtnbrittanys.com
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=875
& the Wild Mtn Brittany Gang
www.wildmtnbrittanys.com
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=875
- AZ Brittany Guy
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http://www.fieldtrialnews.com/cgi-bin/c ... =retrieval
This guy has an AI Breeding out of Beans Blaze but he is pricy with good reason. If you are a Field Trialer this is what you call "good prospects"
This guy has an AI Breeding out of Beans Blaze but he is pricy with good reason. If you are a Field Trialer this is what you call "good prospects"
- Kiki's Mom
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I know David. Sold him one of my horses in 2006. This was a nice l breeding to Bean's Blaze.
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Helen, Kiki
& the Wild Mtn Brittany Gang
www.wildmtnbrittanys.com
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=875
& the Wild Mtn Brittany Gang
www.wildmtnbrittanys.com
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=875
- Brushbustin Sporting Dogs
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I actually called David on those puppies. I didn't look at your link yet but I'm sure I know who your talking about and ya WOW. Wouldn't that be something still trying to figure out how I could come up with $2000 for a puppy but WOW!!! I'd love one thats for sure.
Robert Myers
Rajin Kennel
308-870-3448
Brittanys are Best enough said...
BBD's Ca-Ching
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=1061
Brushbustin's Ebbie SH
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=678
BNJ's Dirty Dozen Dixie
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=869
Rajin Kennel
308-870-3448
Brittanys are Best enough said...
BBD's Ca-Ching
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=1061
Brushbustin's Ebbie SH
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=678
BNJ's Dirty Dozen Dixie
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=869
- AZ Brittany Guy
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From what he told me he had it for awhile just waiting for the right bitch. It came from whoever, bad with names, owned BB. I actually thought he said there was more of it. When I talked to him I was on the road so not do good with all the details. He of course didn't say what they had to pay for it but even at $2000 he can't really be making a whole lot of money after paying storage, AI, they had to c-section her, etc... But ya I'd love a male out of the litter he sent me pics they are beautiful little pups.
Robert Myers
Rajin Kennel
308-870-3448
Brittanys are Best enough said...
BBD's Ca-Ching
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=1061
Brushbustin's Ebbie SH
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=678
BNJ's Dirty Dozen Dixie
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=869
Rajin Kennel
308-870-3448
Brittanys are Best enough said...
BBD's Ca-Ching
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=1061
Brushbustin's Ebbie SH
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=678
BNJ's Dirty Dozen Dixie
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=869
- AZ Brittany Guy
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- Kiki's Mom
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Ooops...I was typing and thinking too far ahead of myself.
This is Not a line breeding on the Bean's Blaze. ( I had just finished PMing Robbie on a line breeding of another line, sorry)
The bitch behind Bridgette , Bettin She'll Fly actually goes to HOF Jim De Bob's Sparks a Dan D and to HOF Ban Dee up top AND HOF Rimarda's Trademark on her bottom side.
The combination of Bean's Blaze with the Rimarda stuff that is behind both Rocky and Cheryl Orange's Bettin She'll fly is a an awesome and proven combination ( FC/AFC Mokan Powerglide, FC/AFC Ramblin Willie, FC/AFC Mokan Bimbo, FC/AFC Mokan Razzle Dazzle to name a few)
This is Not a line breeding on the Bean's Blaze. ( I had just finished PMing Robbie on a line breeding of another line, sorry)
The bitch behind Bridgette , Bettin She'll Fly actually goes to HOF Jim De Bob's Sparks a Dan D and to HOF Ban Dee up top AND HOF Rimarda's Trademark on her bottom side.
The combination of Bean's Blaze with the Rimarda stuff that is behind both Rocky and Cheryl Orange's Bettin She'll fly is a an awesome and proven combination ( FC/AFC Mokan Powerglide, FC/AFC Ramblin Willie, FC/AFC Mokan Bimbo, FC/AFC Mokan Razzle Dazzle to name a few)
Helen, Kiki
& the Wild Mtn Brittany Gang
www.wildmtnbrittanys.com
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=875
& the Wild Mtn Brittany Gang
www.wildmtnbrittanys.com
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=875
If I was looking for my next superstar, I'd be buying a pup from Ralph and Judy Kiracofe. I can't decide which pedigree I like more:
http://www.hitbrits.com/Jackbella.htm
Or
http://www.hitbrits.com/PeteyHannah.htm
ahhhh...if I only had room for 1 or 2 more!
http://www.hitbrits.com/Jackbella.htm
Or
http://www.hitbrits.com/PeteyHannah.htm
ahhhh...if I only had room for 1 or 2 more!
Woodland's Spirit of Big Oaks & Woodland's Money Pit
I'm not sure how the bitch is bred that Helen is talking about out of
Chrome. Chrome has Beans Blaze twice in 4th gen and a DC full brother in 3rd.
Chas. McBride (Sherlock Brittanys) in Guysville uses a stud that is very well bred and directely out of Beans Blaze. He usually has puppies
Chrome. Chrome has Beans Blaze twice in 4th gen and a DC full brother in 3rd.
Chas. McBride (Sherlock Brittanys) in Guysville uses a stud that is very well bred and directely out of Beans Blaze. He usually has puppies
FC Diamond - http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=9
FC Mac - http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=949
Dillion - http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=950
Chrome - http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=951
Alex - http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=946
Cher - http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=952
FC Mac - http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=949
Dillion - http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=950
Chrome - http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=951
Alex - http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=946
Cher - http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=952
- Kiki's Mom
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Bill you missed it. I was referring to the bitch that was AI'd to Bean's Blaze. She is a daughter of Gambler's Ace in the Hole and Cheryl Orange's Bettin She'll Fly.
Didn't mention Chrome in this thread <gg>
The bitch I DID breed to your Chrome is NFC/AFC Lea's Running Jayhawk x FC Poki-Dot. This was an attempt to linebreed the Microdot/Scipio stuff ( with good results I might add. Have 4 of 6 in competition homes and looking for two more competition homes for the last two if I can find 'em)
Didn't mention Chrome in this thread <gg>
The bitch I DID breed to your Chrome is NFC/AFC Lea's Running Jayhawk x FC Poki-Dot. This was an attempt to linebreed the Microdot/Scipio stuff ( with good results I might add. Have 4 of 6 in competition homes and looking for two more competition homes for the last two if I can find 'em)
Helen, Kiki
& the Wild Mtn Brittany Gang
www.wildmtnbrittanys.com
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=875
& the Wild Mtn Brittany Gang
www.wildmtnbrittanys.com
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=875
Yeah, this one is amazing. You get all of the Beans Blaze, Rimarda, Scipio, HOF way back, plus the recent national champions.Karen wrote: http://www.hitbrits.com/PeteyHannah.htm
This will be interesting as I think Petey is Liver and Hannah is orange.
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OK I am NOT a Brittany breeder but I have some questions. I am not trying to stir anything up.gar-dog wrote:Yeah, this one is amazing. You get all of the Beans Blaze, Rimarda, Scipio, HOF way back, plus the recent national champions.Karen wrote: http://www.hitbrits.com/PeteyHannah.htm
This will be interesting as I think Petey is Liver and Hannah is orange.
Why would this breeding be amazing? The bitch is OFA FAIR.
You also mention all of these dogs BUT if they are more than 4 generations back in the pedigree. In genetics anything previous to 4 generations in a pedigree is washed out.
Pam
Cherrystone Weimaraners
Breeding for Conformation and Performance
NFC/FC Cherrystone La Reine De Pearl
CH Cherystone Perl of Sagenhaft MH,SDX,NRD,VX,BROM
CH Cherrystone Gone With the Wind JH
Cherrystone Weimaraners
Breeding for Conformation and Performance
NFC/FC Cherrystone La Reine De Pearl
CH Cherystone Perl of Sagenhaft MH,SDX,NRD,VX,BROM
CH Cherrystone Gone With the Wind JH
Look at the pedigrees of my two Brits. You may have trouble finding more Beans Blaze and they are both show quality with gundog range. Where I haven't seen all of the dogs in the other pedigrees, it bothers me there is little indication that they are in the standard and not just field bred.
Ezzy
Ezzy
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It's not how many breaths you have taken but how many times it has been taken away!
Has anyone noticed common sense isn't very common anymore.
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=207
It's not how many breaths you have taken but how many times it has been taken away!
Has anyone noticed common sense isn't very common anymore.
OFA Fair is passing (and her sire is OFA Excellent AND the 2005 National Gun Dog Champion AND her dam is OFA Good) and the stud is OFA Excellent AND the 2007 National Gun Dog Champion at 3 yrs old. I see absolutely no problem breeding an OFA Excellent to an OFA Fair with generations of OFA behind it and Excellent/Good parents. This wouldn't worry me in the least.CherrystoneWeims wrote:OK I am NOT a Brittany breeder but I have some questions. I am not trying to stir anything up.gar-dog wrote:Yeah, this one is amazing. You get all of the Beans Blaze, Rimarda, Scipio, HOF way back, plus the recent national champions.Karen wrote: http://www.hitbrits.com/PeteyHannah.htm
This will be interesting as I think Petey is Liver and Hannah is orange.
Why would this breeding be amazing? The bitch is OFA FAIR.
You also mention all of these dogs BUT if they are more than 4 generations back in the pedigree. In genetics anything previous to 4 generations in a pedigree is washed out.
You want to look at 4 generations:
4 NGDC
20 FC's
5 DC's
2 AFC's that are not FC's
2 Ch that are not DC's
But you'd have to see both Petey and Jack, and Jack's other offspring run/compete to truly appreciate what a nice breeding this is.
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I agree with you on the level of breeding the Fair to Excellent. I'm curious because with all of the HD controversy, was the whole litter x-rayed or do you know? I know too that the Kiracof's are not in with those others who are blatantly breeding HD positive dogs so please don't misread my question here.I see absolutely no problem breeding an OFA Excellent to an OFA Fair with generations of OFA behind it and Excellent/Good parents. This wouldn't worry me in the least.
There are those that are saying these days that we cannot know the ramifications of the HD disease until we look at ALL of the hips in all of our litters. Do you happen to know if this OFA Fair bitch was the only FAIR rating in the litter with those generations of Excellent/Good behind them? It would be interesting to know. Unfortunately until a genetic marker can be identified for HD we will continue to have to be diligent in our battle with HD.
FAIR to Excellent is still breeding two dogs that DO NOT have HD. I'm too am ok with that.
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I ahve personally seen an OFA excellent bred to a OFA Good produce an EXTREMELY Dysplastic pup
I know of a OFA good dog being bred that is producing 1-2 HD pup per litter
I know of a Grand sire and grand mother breeding which grand progeny bred to different other crossing that are coming up HD
An OFA Mild may never show signs of HD depending on if it is sublaxation versus an arthritic change
My point HD is out there....and an OFA Fair Has a number and is breedable and I would breed an OFA Fair with a better looking back ground then an Excellent with little to no back ground information
I think OFA hurt the reading by call it a Fair it makes it sound much worse then it is
But an OFA fair can produce and excellennt and so can a mild for that fact
So OFA ...for true Face value is showing that the breeder is breeding an animal which has sound hips at the time of the xray.
So on one hand on the www.offa.org website you can veiw your dog and related breedings but ...your only goingto be able to veiw those dogs that are done and those dogs that an owner releases for public records
I know of a OFA good dog being bred that is producing 1-2 HD pup per litter
I know of a Grand sire and grand mother breeding which grand progeny bred to different other crossing that are coming up HD
An OFA Mild may never show signs of HD depending on if it is sublaxation versus an arthritic change
My point HD is out there....and an OFA Fair Has a number and is breedable and I would breed an OFA Fair with a better looking back ground then an Excellent with little to no back ground information
I think OFA hurt the reading by call it a Fair it makes it sound much worse then it is
But an OFA fair can produce and excellennt and so can a mild for that fact
So OFA ...for true Face value is showing that the breeder is breeding an animal which has sound hips at the time of the xray.
So on one hand on the www.offa.org website you can veiw your dog and related breedings but ...your only goingto be able to veiw those dogs that are done and those dogs that an owner releases for public records
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"When I hear somebody talk about a horse or cow being stupid, I figure its a sure sign that the animal has outfoxed them." Tom Dorrance
If you feel like you are banging your head against the wall, try using the door.
OFA is an important step towards eliminating HD from our dogs. But lets take it for what it really is. It is strictly a subjective reading of an x-ray of the hips. You can do the same dog twice and get two different readings due as much as to the position and quality of the x-ray as any other quality. What does all of this mean? X-ray your dogs and do not breed any dog that has dysplasia. Beyond that you are just pretty much making a personal dicision of what you like.
Any dog can have it no matter what the background dogs check out and any dysplastic dog can produce pups with perfect hips. But we do know that like produces like in the general sceme of things so clear dogs are much more apt to produce pups with clear hips. Breed right, feed right, and grow them slow with controlled exercise for the first several months and we will continue to make progress in the fight to eliminate it from our dogs.
Ezzy
Any dog can have it no matter what the background dogs check out and any dysplastic dog can produce pups with perfect hips. But we do know that like produces like in the general sceme of things so clear dogs are much more apt to produce pups with clear hips. Breed right, feed right, and grow them slow with controlled exercise for the first several months and we will continue to make progress in the fight to eliminate it from our dogs.
Ezzy
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http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=207
It's not how many breaths you have taken but how many times it has been taken away!
Has anyone noticed common sense isn't very common anymore.
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=207
It's not how many breaths you have taken but how many times it has been taken away!
Has anyone noticed common sense isn't very common anymore.