10 of 21 Dog Foods Mislabeled

[Doc E]

And every one of those critters is probably eating Monsanto corn, so why worry?

Because the amino acids in Monsanto corn are different?

Yes, they are markedly different



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[SHORTFAT]

Personally, I don't give a hoot what is in the stuff as long as my dog is doing well on it.

Just because a dog is doing well, doesn't always mean they couldn't be doing better.



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Seriously??? :roll: :roll: :roll: Please. Go poop in your yard... then let your dog out... he WILL eat it while it is still steaming. When my vet tells me my dog is in perfect health and that I shouldn't change a thing in her diet... oh, I know... I'm going to go out and by some yuppie funded vegie crap that costs 5 times what the food my dog loves to feed... or some high dollar "Breeders Choice" made with beef that listened to Frédéric François Chopin violin music while it was shampooed every day and fed "special organic grains"... Sorry folks... ain't drinkin the cool aide... I think most dog food companies are in business for the same reason my father opened a machine shop... to make money. I also believe that they want to produce a quality product that is good for dogs... they won't be in business long if they don't. I feed the $20 p/50lb bag stuff... :roll: It's "DADS" dog food and it's made about an hour from here. It has been fed to my dogs for over 30 years and I have NEVER had a health issue from the kind of food I was giving my dogs. Feed whatever you like... I will follow my vet's advice, thanks... and my dog isn't complaining...

[ezzy333]

Personally, I don't give a hoot what is in the stuff as long as my dog is doing well on it.

Just because a dog is doing well, doesn't always mean they couldn't be doing better.



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Seriously??? :roll: :roll: :roll: Please. Go poop in your yard... then let your dog out... he WILL eat it while it is still steaming. When my vet tells me my dog is in perfect health and that I shouldn't change a thing in her diet... oh, I know... I'm going to go out and by some yuppie funded vegie crap that costs 5 times what the food my dog loves to feed... or some high dollar "Breeders Choice" made with beef that listened to Frédéric François Chopin violin music while it was shampooed every day and fed "special organic grains"... Sorry folks... ain't drinkin the cool aide... I think most dog food companies are in business for the same reason my father opened a machine shop... to make money. I also believe that they want to produce a quality product that is good for dogs... they won't be in business long if they don't. I feed the $20 p/50lb bag stuff... :roll: It's "DADS" dog food and it's made about an hour from here. It has been fed to my dogs for over 30 years and I have NEVER had a health issue from the kind of food I was giving my dogs. Feed whatever you like... I will follow my vet's advice, thanks... and my dog isn't complaining...

This demonstates what is wrong in the dog food world and it is refreshing to see that you have figured it out. Couldn't agree more.

Ezzy

[slistoe]

And every one of those critters is probably eating Monsanto corn, so why worry?

Because the amino acids in Monsanto corn are different?

Yes, they are markedly different



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Of course you have a published scientific work to delineate the precise differences. Link?

[wems2371]

Pending the studies accuracy, this is as simple as truth in advertising for me. Either you think it's okay to have inaccurate labeling or you don't...and to what degree of accuracy a company should be accountable for. I see zero relevancy of cost, brand, or formula of the dogfood that someone else chooses to purchase or whether their dog will eat a flaming pile of iguana poo.

[Doc E]

Of course you have a published scientific work to delineate the precise differences. Link?

New research shows that microscopic RNA in the plants you consume enters your body and is actually capable of affecting the expression of up to 30% of your genes.

Click here : http://courses.washington.edu/conj514/r ... ading1.pdf

Studies at the Institute for Responsible Technology showed that:

•Offspring of rats fed GM soy showed a five-fold increase in mortality, lower birth weights, and the inability to reproduce
•Male mice fed GM soy had damaged young sperm cells
•The embryo offspring of GM soy-fed mice had altered DNA functioning
•Several US farmers reported sterility or fertility problems among pigs and cows fed on GM corn varieties
•Investigators in India have documented fertility problems, abortions, premature births, and other serious health issues, including deaths, among buffaloes fed GM cottonseed products


We're leaving for OK soon (wife is running her dog in the HRC International Grand Championship), so I probably won't have time to get back on this forum until late October.



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[slistoe]

Interesting reading but it said nothing of microRNA from plants affecting the genes in your body, let alone how Monsanto corn microRNA would have more deleterious effects than the mocroRNA of some other corn. Better find another study or put the fear mongering on hold.

As for the soy thing - try this link http://academicsreview.org/reviewed-con ... is-safe-5/

[armand]

gravy train for my dogs and if walmart is out then olroy brand works just as good.

[RayGubernat]

Of course you have a published scientific work to delineate the precise differences. Link?

New research shows that microscopic RNA in the plants you consume enters your body and is actually capable of affecting the expression of up to 30% of your genes.

Click here : http://courses.washington.edu/conj514/r ... ading1.pdf

Studies at the Institute for Responsible Technology showed that:

•Offspring of rats fed GM soy showed a five-fold increase in mortality, lower birth weights, and the inability to reproduce
•Male mice fed GM soy had damaged young sperm cells
•The embryo offspring of GM soy-fed mice had altered DNA functioning
•Several US farmers reported sterility or fertility problems among pigs and cows fed on GM corn varieties
•Investigators in India have documented fertility problems, abortions, premature births, and other serious health issues, including deaths, among buffaloes fed GM cottonseed products


We're leaving for OK soon (wife is running her dog in the HRC International Grand Championship), so I probably won't have time to get back on this forum until late October.



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Doc -

What scientific or medical journal was that study published in?

It could be just me, but the name of the orgnization tends to give me a clear indication of their "philosophical" leaning. When you have organizations like those "natural" petfood "insitutes" and such, it is wise to assume that any research they engage in has, as its purpose, the discreditation of some segment of the community with which they disagree.

Scientific research should be conducted by persons capable of pursuing the truth, wheerever it may lead. Scientific research that is funded by an entity with a stake in the outcome needs to be viewed with caution. The design of an experiment can very definitely affect the outcome and the conclusions reached, especially if you work backwards from the desired outcome.

The old adage applies: "Figures don't lie, but liars sure do know how to figure."

Believing everything you read on the internet is kinda like believing everything you read in those supermarket tabloids. I have no doubt that this actress or that actor is fooling around with someone else besides their spouse... but I'm not sure about those alien abductions and visitations.

There are lots of organizations out there with axes to grind, who can and do make up stuff as they go along. If you lie and continue to lie...sooner or later someone will believe you. They will even vote for you.

RayG

[DonF]

Pending the studies accuracy, this is as simple as truth in advertising for me. Either you think it's okay to have inaccurate labeling or you don't...and to what degree of accuracy a company should be accountable for. I see zero relevancy of cost, brand, or formula of the dogfood that someone else chooses to purchase or whether their dog will eat a flaming pile of iguana poo.

Not flaming, steaming!

[Doc E]

We're leaving for OK soon (wife is running her dog in the HRC International Grand Championship), so I probably won't have time to get back on this forum until late October.

Leaving for OK in about 10 minutes -- no time to banter until late OCT.



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[slistoe]

Pending the studies accuracy, this is as simple as truth in advertising for me. Either you think it's okay to have inaccurate labeling or you don't...and to what degree of accuracy a company should be accountable for. I see zero relevancy of cost, brand, or formula of the dogfood that someone else chooses to purchase or whether their dog will eat a flaming pile of iguana poo.

Yes, and the study has shown that there is some level of fraud going on in the dog food industry. But what trace levels of non labelled ingredients constitutes false advertising? If I shake the hand of someone who has snorted coke the detection dogs will hit on me. Am I then a drug dealer?

[ezzy333]

Pending the studies accuracy, this is as simple as truth in advertising for me. Either you think it's okay to have inaccurate labeling or you don't...and to what degree of accuracy a company should be accountable for. I see zero relevancy of cost, brand, or formula of the dogfood that someone else chooses to purchase or whether their dog will eat a flaming pile of iguana poo.

I agree but I want to know for sure something is mislabeled before I get on a board and tell everyone they are. From what I have read here I am questioning if most of these instances are mislabeled or just contaminated so slightly it isn't even important. When you start talking parts per million or parts per billion it is next to impossible to ever improve on that and more importantly it is unimportant to the consumer since a dog couldn't get enough to do any damage if it lived to be a hundred.

There are so many test done that way anymore and it has little to no importance in everyday life. There is another result being bandied about on the Internet now about mice dying from eating GM corn. But they don't tell you that the mice would die no matter what they fed them if it was the only thing they ate.

Ezzy

[markj]

You guys feed yer dogs? I just let mine out after dark and they come home fat and sassy lol can hear the garbage can clatter for miles.....

Now for a real bitch, corn is up to 8.50 a bushel and it may be full of nitrite which will creat nitrates in the blood which keeps the cells from absorbing oxygen...bad for the cows.. dogs can eat the dead cows.....

[Cajun Casey]

You guys feed yer dogs? I just let mine out after dark and they come home fat and sassy lol can hear the garbage can clatter for miles.....

Now for a real bitch, corn is up to 8.50 a bushel and it may be full of nitrite which will creat nitrates in the blood which keeps the cells from absorbing oxygen...bad for the cows.. dogs can eat the dead cows.....

I believe the FDA and USDA recently cleared the use of aflatoxin risk corn for livestock fees.

[ezzy333]

You guys feed yer dogs? I just let mine out after dark and they come home fat and sassy lol can hear the garbage can clatter for miles.....

Now for a real bitch, corn is up to 8.50 a bushel and it may be full of nitrite which will creat nitrates in the blood which keeps the cells from absorbing oxygen...bad for the cows.. dogs can eat the dead cows.....

I believe the FDA and USDA recently cleared the use of aflatoxin risk corn for livestock fees.

There has never been any USDA policy that you couldn't feed it and FDA has nothing to do with that area. Thats where we have used it for years. Cattle and hogs are not a problem, chickens may have a little reaction but horses have been the big concern and dog food can be also. There is a different level that can cause a prolem for practically all animals all animals so any one using it has to be careful with it.

Hear in the mid-west it has only been a problem on dry years where the corn stalk dies before the corn is dry and that is usually in just small local areas. But I would guess it might be pretty wide sprea this year along with the nitite problem Mark spoke of.

Ezzy

[Cajun Casey]

You guys feed yer dogs? I just let mine out after dark and they come home fat and sassy lol can hear the garbage can clatter for miles.....

Now for a real bitch, corn is up to 8.50 a bushel and it may be full of nitrite which will creat nitrates in the blood which keeps the cells from absorbing oxygen...bad for the cows.. dogs can eat the dead cows.....

I believe the FDA and USDA recently cleared the use of aflatoxin risk corn for livestock fees.

There has never been any USDA policy that you couldn't feed it and FDA has nothing to do with that area. Thats where we have used it for years. Cattle and hogs are not a problem, chickens may have a little reaction but horses have been the big concern and dog food can be also. There is a different level that can cause a prolem for practically all animals all animals so any one using it has to be careful with it.

Hear in the mid-west it has only been a problem on dry years where the corn stalk dies before the corn is dry and that is usually in just small local areas. But I would guess it might be pretty wide sprea this year along with the nitite problem Mark spoke of.

Ezzy

I guess Reuters didn't know what they were talking about.

[ezzy333]

[I believe the FDA and USDA recently cleared the use of aflatoxin risk corn for livestock fees.

There has never been any USDA policy that you couldn't feed it and FDA has nothing to do with that area. Thats where we have used it for years. Cattle and hogs are not a problem, chickens may have a little reaction but horses have been the big concern and dog food can be also. There is a different level that can cause a prolem for practically all animals all animals so any one using it has to be careful with it.

Hear in the mid-west it has only been a problem on dry years where the corn stalk dies before the corn is dry and that is usually in just small local areas. But I would guess it might be pretty wide sprea this year along with the nitite problem Mark spoke of.

Ezzy

I guess Reuters didn't know what they were talking about.

Doesn't surprise me.

Ezzy