Makes me wonder....

griffgirl · Post by **griffgirl** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:45 am

Alot of the times I come on here and it seems only the GSP,Britts and some pointers are the only breed that matters.Here I was thinking this was a GunDog forum to talk about all breeds.You guys seem to be stuck on yourselves and your breeds ........ :roll:

edondero · Post by **edondero** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:33 am

huh?
you want me to talk about dogs I don't have? If I had a griffon or a lab I would surely talk about them too, but I have a GSP. I think it's coincidence that most people on here are GSP/pointer/Brit owners, we welcome every gundog but we're just more popular.

griffgirl · Post by **griffgirl** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:05 am

A hunting dog is a hunting dog.They point,back,retrieve.It doesnt matter if its a GSP or what it is.
This is a good forum and has all kinds of great info but as soon as someone ask's a question thats new its all over them.Ive been coming on here for a while now and follow alot of the post but thats it FOLLOW along.

Ya got Charlie thats the Med/Dr. moderator
Yallawac the pointer moderator
K-Nine the Britt moderator
Ezzy the food moderator

Ever look at how many guest there are.These people go on other forum's and say they dont want to reg because they dont want to get jumped on...... It really shouldnt be that way.Not everyone wants a GSP or a Britt.Different strokes for different folks

madonna · Post by **madonna** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:10 am

Dear, i am a breeder of Deutsch-Kurzhaar. i am very new here. But i will tell you about my dogs. I have three DK at this time. My bitch Birke KS vom westermoor had three litters with over 30 pups. One dead. then a have Donner, her son. and now the little baghira von der königsleite, called emma. she was whelped 15.12.2006. With 9 month she did hunting ability test, wiht 14 month retrieving reliabilty. she is hunted on boars and made her hunting ability on boars and loudness on fox. and- she is a wonderful dog in pointing! and- she is black- the difference to the GSP is, that emma is no dog for trial. she is not as fast and far going. but you can hunt with her!
i will give you a pig of her:
emma with 5 month retrieving a pheasant

Emma retrieving a marten with 5 month

Emma pointing on hare with 9 month

greeting madonna

wems2371 · Post by **wems2371** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:52 am

Ouch. It was very surprising to me to read your post griffgirl. As you can see, I'm really new here, but I have gleamed a ton of info from reading pages of prior threads. I have learned about dogfood--thanks Ezzy and others. As far as I know of health and nutrition are universal to most all breeds. I've learned a lot about backing, flushing, whoa, etc from other peoples experiences--which I would guess is universal. I've posted about my "loose mouthed" puppy and a couple of other universal questions. I participated in a thread about fence containment, and what everyone's thoughts are. I think if you didn't see the Avatar photos or Signature photos/pedigrees....................you often wouldn't know what dog breeds the posting people owned..........just by the post. There are definitely some brags here and there, and we would love to see photos and video links of your dogs as well. Like edondero said, people will talk about what they know. So educate me about Griffons, or whatever you know. Denise

AHGSP · Post by **AHGSP** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:07 am

mmmmmkayyyy........

Griffgirl,
While the majority on here may own GSP's, Brits and Pointers; there are one heck of a lot of V's, Weims and no lack of GWP's, WPG's, etc..... Heck there is even a Langhaar or 2, as well as some Munsters....
I think everyone here loves THEIR breed, but I don't see anyone that isn't willing to talk about other breeds, or help with other breeds. In fact, my Wife is Secretarying a Hunt Test for the GWP Club and we don't even own one, though I can certainly see one in the future down the road.

You seem to take an issue with certain people, not their breeds and it just so happens that those folks have a great deal of experience in the topics they "Moderate", your words..... Does it bother you that they have more experience than you and are able to help on those topics and freely do so?

Charlie has a pretty broad range of experience, as he should, he has been in dogs longer than many on this board have even been around.

Ross knows a great deal about Pointers, but that is certainly not his only experiences and are the experiences he tries to share on the most. Can't blame a guy for sharing his passion.

K-9 knows her Britts and is quite enamored with them, but there are 3 or 4 others that are just as enamored with them and you will quite often find they are all in pretty close agreement on topics concerning Britts, when all are able to participate in those topics.

Ezzy..... well Ezzy has just been around the block a few times and knows a thing or two, IF you take the time to listen.

I happen to know a thing or 2 about the Black GSP's and have spent 10 years studying the History of the GSP breed as a whole; Does that make me the "Black GSP Moderator? The Historian? :roll: Not likely. I guess I should stop sharing my knowledge on those topics.

Dave Quindt should actually receive the Title of GSP Breed Historian and very freely shares his knowledge of the History of the Breed. I guess he should stop sharing that knowledge so as to not offend your sensitivities.

Just because there are not a lot of Griffs on here, doesn't mean no one is interested. Heck..... You could be the Griff Moderator!

There are some of the very best in the Country, at what they do, on this board.
You want to know about Trials? You got it!
You want to know about Hunt Test? You got it!
You want to know about Training? You got it!
You want to know about Breeding? You got it!
You want to know about Nutrition? You got it!
You want to know about Health? You got it!
You want to know about Judging? You got it!
You want to know about running Events? You got it!
Need I go on?

Post by **ezzy333** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:15 am

Griff girl,

As of tomorrow we will limit any posts from people with the more popular breeds to the same number as the Griff, Pudelpointer, Musterlander, and the GLP people have. I agree it is not fair for the hundreds of people who have GSPs, Pointers, Setters, Vizslas, and Brits to think they can talk about their breeds and ignore the others. It makes no difference that they know nothing about the other breeds.

Its people posting about things they know nothing about that will attract people who will marvel at our fairness. And we will have to stop the people, myself included, in trying to educate people in the fields we do have knowledge in.

I have looked for your posts about your breed so I can learn something and that goes for all breeds. I do understand your frustration when you see so little info about the Grifs but that is one of the things you should have considered when you decided to get into one of the less popular breeds. Its just the way it is and always will be. And all it means is there are less people who know enough about them to post.

Ezzy

bean1031 · Post by **bean1031** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:47 am

griffgirl wrote:A hunting dog is a hunting dog.They point,back,retrieve.It doesnt matter if its a GSP or what it is.
This is a good forum and has all kinds of great info but as soon as someone ask's a question thats new its all over them.Ive been coming on here for a while now and follow alot of the post but thats it FOLLOW along.

Kind of weird last time I checked my lab didnt point or back! Oh No she is discriminating against retrievers! Mods kick her off she said retrievers arnt hunting dogs!

There ya go refering to dogs that point as the only hunting dogs, kind of hippocritical!

griffgirl wrote:got Charlie thats the Med/Dr. moderator
Yallawac the pointer moderator
K-Nine the Britt moderator
Ezzy the food moderator

Well charlie knows a heck of a lot on the vet side, so that where he can contribute.

Yallawac can answer alot about pointers as far as breed standards and such and blood lines and thats where he contributes.

K-Nime Has had brits for years and can answer alot of questions about em, and ontop of that has helped me on numerous accasions with my lab, but you wouldnt count that sense your anti-retriever

Mods have u kicked her off yet?

And Ezzy has contributed to every breed probubly more than anyone on here, and ya dont have to get mad because he knows alot about how to properly nurish your dog.

This whole thing reminds me of when I moved to Texas in third grade from Utah. All of the kids kept saying that I only talked about stories from Utah. Well I kept telling them I have only lived here for a month you cant expect me to have a lot of stories about Texas yet. They couldnt seem to grasp there minds around that concept. I mean really if some one doesnt know about GWPs then they should learn from you not try to make stuff up about unknown topics. Teach us about GWPs and I will teach you about the BIG BAD RETRIEVERS that do hunt!

griffgirl · Post by **griffgirl** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:54 am

There ..... My point is well taken.I make a post about something negative and I get 4 people to reply.

Ezzy....The decision on the breed I wanted had nothing to do with if someone might know something about the breed on a forum.

AHGSP · Post by **AHGSP** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:56 am

griffgirl wrote:There ..... My point is well taken.I make a post about something negative and I get 4 people to reply.

Ezzy....The decision on the breed I wanted had nothing to do with if someone might know something about the breed on a forum.

Soooo, your just "trolllling" huh?

bean1031 · Post by **bean1031** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:58 am

Mabey your the problem here, you cant expect to get great replies when your purposely trying to post about something negative!

Whats takeing you so long mods? She is still here!

AHGSP · Post by **AHGSP** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:00 am

bean1031 wrote:Mabey your the problem here, you cant expect to get great replies when your purposely trying to post about something negative!

Whats takeing you so long mods? She is still here!

Somebody didn't get an Easter Basket.

griffgirl · Post by **griffgirl** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:01 am

AHGSP wrote:
griffgirl wrote:There ..... My point is well taken.I make a post about something negative and I get 4 people to reply.

Ezzy....The decision on the breed I wanted had nothing to do with if someone might know something about the breed on a forum.
Soooo, your just "trolllling" huh?

Well I dont know if I'd call it that.......All this has nothing to do with.....noone wants to talk about my dog

bean1031 · Post by **bean1031** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:03 am

AHGSP wrote:
bean1031 wrote:Mabey your the problem here, you cant expect to get great replies when your purposely trying to post about something negative!

Whats takeing you so long mods? She is still here!

Somebody didn't get an Easter Basket.

I just knew my inner feelings would be discovered! I mean how do you go on without an easter basket on easter!

But seriously why is she still here?

The Mods are allways slacking!

AHGSP · Post by **AHGSP** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:09 am

Me too Ted! I thought this all started about her breed of dogs and now I find that it seems more of personal nature that some know more than others.....

Bet she HATES Stephen J Hawkings!

That is one super smart & knowledgeable mofo there!

wems2371 · Post by **wems2371** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:47 am

Griffgirl, I hope you don't leave the forum. I'm sure some of us have something to gain from YOU. I realized after posting initially, that I had looked at your "backing" post the day before.........along with 184 other viewers. I noticed you only got 2 replys on your great photo. I posted a waterwork video with my pup about a week ago, and only got one--and that was from a litter mate owner. Sometimes, speaking for myself, I've got limited time to post/read. So I tend to move rather fast through the forum and not post on everything. But I did enjoy the "backing" post and just could not believe a pup that little was doing that already--but then I'm on my first gun dog........so what do I know! Hang in there.

Just a side note, and everyone can go all "Chuck Norris" on me later. While griffgirl may have started a little something here--I'd rather see her stay, than be righteous and drive her away. Group hug:)

griffgirl · Post by **griffgirl** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:53 am

AHGSP wrote:Me too Ted! I thought this all started about her breed of dogs and now I find that it seems more of personal nature that some know more than others.....

Bet she HATES Stephen J Hawkings!
That is one super smart & knowledgeable mofo there!

WHATEVER......Ya just dont get it.Because its a neg post you all jump right in.
Its because its not a GSP.It doesnt matter what breed.If I own a Griff and ask a question about pointing does it matter what the breed is.A GSP points.A Griff points.A Britt points.They dont point different and you dont train them any different.Now do we all get it.....

Oh I did get a Easter Basket......A new 2008 GMC Envoy

Hotpepper · Post by **Hotpepper** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:57 pm

This one is so silly it is not worth responding too. This fella or person should make a list of the people who post here and what they talk about , keep the list and not open them or post to them is the way I see it.

Pepper

Yawallac · Post by **Yawallac** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:19 pm

Yallawac the pointer moderator...

Thank you for that!!

Now you know how I feel on the VDog site!! That's Griff heaven over there!

Great people all!!

Did you see my new GSP pup? I'm just trying to fit in!

griffgirl · Post by **griffgirl** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:38 pm

Yawallac.....I thought you would like that.

Tough crowd here.I just put some money down on a GSP so I can Blah,Blah,Blah with the best of em :roll:

I think I'll go back to V-Dogs and make fun of the GSP guys.

Post by **ezzy333** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:44 pm

Now that sounds better. Nothing like getting even.

Ezzy

Ruffshooter · Post by **Ruffshooter** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:18 pm

In our NAVHDA club we have maybe two griffons, three spinones, two puddle ponters, one english pointer, three Large Munsterlanders, five GWP, One english setter maybe 15 brittanies, Four french brittanies, two weims, two Vizlas, the rest probally GSP's.

What can I say about the Griffon? One nearly died from heat exhaustion. We have one of the oldest members in our club (Ralph) that has two, he just whistles lightly and they come or come around but they are only out there about 20 to thirty yards which works good for Ralph. His dogs always carry there own crates to the sportsman Shows. They are very nice and well trained. I saw one get a VC in ND a few years back very nice going dog. Out of our club dogs The griffons are the hairiest and smelliest, but perhaps the sweetiest except for my Brittainies and my shorthairs of course.

I feel better now.

Post by **slistoe** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:45 pm

griffgirl wrote:
AHGSP wrote:
griffgirl wrote:There ..... My point is well taken.I make a post about something negative and I get 4 people to reply.

Ezzy....The decision on the breed I wanted had nothing to do with if someone might know something about the breed on a forum.
Soooo, your just "trolllling" huh?
Well I dont know if I'd call it that.......All this has nothing to do with.....noone wants to talk about my dog

Hey, you only got a half dozen posts on the other forum with your backing pup and I don't see you crying on there. What gives? Rip on those guys too. (Oops, they are the same guys aren't they.)

griffgirl · Post by **griffgirl** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:53 pm

Come now,do you think this is over my post of my backing Griff pup thats only 10 weeks old?Im just calling it like I see it.

Post by **ezzy333** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:55 pm

Griff girl,

About 3 or 4 weeks ago I put a gorgeous picture on here of my two Brits in the field with one on point and the pup backing. I didn't see a single comment about it. Not one. Guess that happens to everyone once in a while.

Ezzy

griffgirl · Post by **griffgirl** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:05 pm

Ruffshooter wrote:In our NAVHDA club we have maybe two griffons, three spinones, two puddle ponters, one english pointer, three Large Munsterlanders, five GWP, One english setter maybe 15 brittanies, Four french brittanies, two weims, two Vizlas, the rest probally GSP's.

What can I say about the Griffon? One nearly died from heat exhaustion. We have one of the oldest members in our club (Ralph) that has two, he just whistles lightly and they come or come around but they are only out there about 20 to thirty yards which works good for Ralph. His dogs always carry there own crates to the sportsman Shows. They are very nice and well trained. I saw one get a VC in ND a few years back very nice going dog. Out of our club dogs The griffons are the hairiest and smelliest, but perhaps the sweetiest except for my Brittainies and my shorthairs of course.

I feel better now.

Thats why most Griffs are in cold weather states.If someone were to get one in a warm weather state sounds pretty dumb.The guy I have is out there 100 yards.He will stay on point no matter how long it takes me to get there.Its the way people train them where they become close hunters.

I have no clue why people think a Griff is a close working dog,they can be if your out Grouse hunting but in an open field NO, at least not mine.Sure some might look like big goofs but they have a nose thats unbelievable.Mine has all the style when pointing that any GSP has.

Tell the guy to maybe give the dog a bath.Ive never had a SMELLY dog.Who knows maybe the guy has a problem also and thinks its OK.

Ruffshooter · Post by **Ruffshooter** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:08 pm

What would you like to have said about your dogs today? A You have a nice avatar and your dog looks like it is in good shape. People respond to what interest them or in which they think they can help. Luckily there are a number of folks on here that can and do help with dogs and folks of all types. Many of us work 10 or 12 hours a day so time goes to certain places and I know I do not read every post and many times when I would respond, some one has already said what I was going to say.

This is a resource and friendly place. Contribute when you can and stop complaining when you can. You seem like a nice person but really.

Post by **ezzy333** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:12 pm

Here is a pic I took a couple of weeks ago. Rush is pointing a rooster and Time came around the edge of the corn and backed as soon as she saw him.

Ezzy

bean1031 · Post by **bean1031** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:46 pm

I have put several posts about hunting trips I have been on and the progress my dog made in them, and nobody responds. But the same day a person wrote about ther GWP and it got around 10 replies. Oh ya, thats just because retrievers are not HUNTING DOGS!

griffgirl · Post by **griffgirl** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:04 pm

Backs must be different for Britts?

Post by **ezzy333** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:16 pm

I think a back is a back regardless of breed. Sometimes when they are coming straight in to the pointing dog you will see a back that is identical to a point but if they are coming by hunting and can't see the dog till they hit an opening they should stop immediately and watch the pointing dog. Main thing is they stop and not try to steal the point. I'm tickled pink with the way she is backing and not once has she failed or been verbally stopped. Can't ask for much more than that.

Ezzy

Don · Post by **Don** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:48 pm

Three pages of replys on this thred and not one of you guy's have mentioned my setters. I'm Miffed!

Post by **ezzy333** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:58 pm

Don,

Do you have setters? What flavor are they and where do they set?

Ezzy

gar-dog · Post by **gar-dog** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:07 pm

Well as long as we're talking about our feelings, I feel like I am a "thread ender" sometimes. I jump in and then it's crickets chirping.... I am the kiss of death to a thread.... let;s see if it happens here

chirp.....chirp....

I just got back from Lake Placid and will post some pics of my dog and we'll see what happens.

P.S. My son's team took the gold medal in the hockey tournament!

Birddog 307 · Post by **Birddog 307** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:51 pm

Griffgirl get over it. I think most people on this board appreciate a good dog no matter what the breed. By the way nice picture of your pup backing. Also that was a nice picture of Ezzy's britts. I am sure your griffs are very nice dogs the ones I have been around have been. Chill out and take a Valium.
Birddog 307

wems2371 · Post by **wems2371** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:53 pm

Okay, I don't want you to get a complex about ending threads...............

See you posting a good bit, but I'm a newbie, so I sit back and just read most of the time.

Ezzy--I'm a total newbie, but I get your backing photo. I know I'm impressed when a dog literally stops in it's tracks. I have a photo of our pup pointing a pigeon, but it doesn't look like the typical pointing photo. Due to the way the wind was, she ran about 10 feet past the bird, and stopped on a dime--literally looking intently backwards to where the scent was coming from. Maybe it's wrong thought, but IMO I would have been less impressed if she had continued running and turned into the wind and then pointed. Guessing that real life isn't always picture perfect.

gar-dog · Post by **gar-dog** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:59 pm

[quote="wems2371"]Okay, I don't want you to get a complex about ending threads...............

See you posting a good bit, but I'm a newbie, so I sit back and just read most of the time.
quote]

Yeah, I only really started posting when I got my dog at the end of October. It seems like everyone knows everyone and then as a newbie you feel like a dork trying to contribute.

I am just having some fun with the thread. I LOVE this forum, even though I have a sissy Britt.

Don · Post by **Don** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:04 pm

ezzy333 wrote:Don,

Do you have setters? What flavor are they and where do they set?

Ezzy

Thanks for asking Ezzy!

Golden Sex-links. Buff Orphingtons and Colunbian Wyandottes:

Yawallac · Post by **Yawallac** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:36 pm

Backs must be different for Britts?

You're killing me!!!!

highcotton · Post by **highcotton** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:40 pm

The dogs don't care :roll:

AHGSP · Post by **AHGSP** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:26 pm

I've met a lot of Wirehairs, but have only ever met maybe a dozen Griffs. 1st one I ever met was a real sweety..... until she tried to eat my Shorthair that was twice her size after the break-away......

Post by **Ayres** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:13 pm

This thread is hilarious.

I can't tell if there's a good bit of sarcasm around here or not, but if anyone has gotten their feelings hurt by what someone didn't say, then.. well... I don't even know how to respond to that. I guess the mods are doing their jobs too well.

Post by **Greg Jennings** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:59 am

I'm afraid that I "don't get it".

Greg J.

utahmomof4 · Post by **utahmomof4** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:46 am

gar-dog wrote:P.S. My son's team took the gold medal in the hockey tournament!

Congrats to your son & team!

Ginger is sure a pretty girl!

snips · Post by **snips** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:07 am

WOW, been gone a few days and come back to 4 pgs of "no Griff talk" thread! Seems like it may have been a pretty boring Easter weekend

I got mostly GSPs, a Wire, and a "pointer", I do not feel predjudice, I try to give advice to anyone that needs it if I think I have something to contribute.

jcbuch · Post by **jcbuch** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:54 am

having a vizsla and being in NAVHDA with mainly GSP, I like having something different. But never has someone not helped me on this sight or in my training chapter because I have a vizsla

I dont get the hostility

markj · Post by **markj** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:04 am

Whats A Griff?

.....noone wants to talk about my dog

Please tell me about your dog. I love em all but do own a few GSPs.

I prefer the short hair these dogs have. When I was a kid I had to comb the springers Dad kept before I got to eat, and I do like to eat sooo the head shrink explained why I hate combs and keep my own hair so short......

Lets not go into horses,,,,, had to muck the stalls before I could slap a porterhouse on the grill for breakfast...... hate them horses......

Bird Dog 67 · Post by **Bird Dog 67** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:16 am

Reading this thread = 10 minutes of my life that I will never get back.

wems2371 · Post by **wems2371** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:23 am

I'm with ya Markj on the horses. Although, if you are the person I saw with the motorcycle trailer thread--it looks like you just got a horse or two. Oddly enough, growing up, I lived on a TN Walker breeding farm. Mom still has 2 old mares and 2 stallions. Anyway, I had to get up at 5:30am--an hour and a half before the bus came--so I could feed and pick stalls. Then, when I stepped off the bus........it was back to the barn again. Took all the fun out of it and totally resented horses by the time I was mid-20's. Have 2 TN Walkers and a pony now, but they're out in the pasture with a round bale...........so I pretty much have no chores:)

Where is Crescent in Iowa? We are on the extreme east side of the state, about 35 miles from the Quad Cities. Have 1 lab mutt and 1 gsp pup.

markj · Post by **markj** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:55 am

I am across from Omaha. the TWH fell thru so I am not really looking. Got some feeders coming in this week they will be hard enuff to feed since everyone is now into corn.

Our great Govt took away the killers so that isnt an option, then got us into ethanol so heavy they will soon be no hay to feed the horses, then what? I saw adds for free horses on the bulliton board at the feed store. Price out pellit hay too, is going up and up.

Feeders I can use the disstellers grain to feed em with hay I got.

Dad had race horses, like 35 to 40 ata time. I got so tired of horse poo....