Broke dog questions

Dirtysteve · Post by **Dirtysteve** » Wed May 18, 2005 3:35 pm

If you buy a broke dog are you buying somebodies wash out?
My friend and I have been debating this. I say no not always, and if so, maybe a washout to a person who trials extensively is the best bird dog a hunter may own.
He thinks if they are getting rid of a dog that they have put that much training into, there is something wrong with the dog.
Which one of us is correct?

Post by **Greg Jennings** » Wed May 18, 2005 3:55 pm

It depends.

Anytime you're buying, you want to know why they're selling.

My granddad told me "No generalization is worth a d***, including this one".

Best,

12 Volt Man · Post by **12 Volt Man** » Wed May 18, 2005 4:13 pm

I say you are both correct.

Anyone selling a "broke" dog, should be able to prove to you that the dog is broke. Either by letting you watch it, or otherwise.

Broke dogs are worth quite a bit of money. Especially in some of the southern states.

I am a bit confused myself. According to another thread we have going in the training section, a "broke" dog doesn't even have to make a retrieve to be "broke".

QCBirddogs · Post by **QCBirddogs** » Wed May 18, 2005 9:33 pm

THere is a difference between broke and finished.....
Lots of pointer men down south never let the long tails retrieve, they use labs after the shot.

I wouldnt say all are wash outs when buying a broke dog......make sure you see the dog prior to buying. MAny trainers sell trained dogs instead of pups. Many trialers sell perfectly good dogs that just dont have the run for them.

Personally, I think you have to be nuts to buy a pup these days.....lot easier to buy a trained dog and know what you are going to get then gamble and wait a year. Especially with the busy work week most have let alone family time, its hard to get a pup trained right.

The problem lies in long distance sales......I would have a problem sending a dog a long ways...then taking it back without knowing who I was dealing with. I ahve sent videos of dogs in the past and sold dogs that way. But I would definetly rather the person come hunt with me for a few dyas with his perspective dog prior to them taking it home.

You never know what could happen to the dog while in the strangers hands. Same goes for the buyer, trusting a trainers opinon, from which he never met.

Phil
REO

tfbirddog2 · Post by **tfbirddog2** » Thu May 19, 2005 6:31 am

I think to buy broke would be better than finished.Look at it if you but broke dog that means most of the training is started or up to par for most everyday joes, which means you would get to finish the dog to your style.A finish dog is like buying an old man perhaps set in his ways,and you better have the seller take you out to show you commands and such or you might have problems in the field.If it were me I would prefer to go buy a puppy then find a good close by trainer were I could go look in on the dog work with it myself really know what is being done.Thats just me.

TAK · Post by **TAK** » Fri May 20, 2005 4:57 pm

Ds
I agree with alot that has been said. If you or your friend is looking for such a dog I would ask around about who is saling the dog. As what faults the dog has. No dog is perfect!
QC made a good point about buying a finished of started dog. I have never bought a finished dog but I have started. Each holds a veriance of what that person thinks is started or finished.
Best advice is say who is saling it and maybe some hear can give you some insight......