Good luck Ross and Vagas

cgbirddogs · Post by **cgbirddogs** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:09 pm

Two of our regulars on the board, Ross and Vagas, have charges that will be running in the Georgia Shooting Dog Championship over the next week. This is one of the biggest draws of the season and to win it would really be saying something. Vagas has his Champion out of Fibber McGee running, Nella's Running Tab. Ross has two in it, Caladen Elhew Sarah and her son, Caladen Struttin Gentleman, who is a son of Ch. Strut. Good luck fellas!

RayGubernat · Post by **RayGubernat** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:21 pm

I second that. Good luck gentelmen.

RayG

rizz1 · Post by **rizz1** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:31 pm

i will third that. good luck. lets hope they run like we know they can

birdogg42 · Post by **birdogg42** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:15 pm

Good luck guys.

vzkennels · Post by **vzkennels** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:32 pm

Way to go fellas!!! GOOD LUCK!!

ElhewPointer · Post by **ElhewPointer** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:34 pm

Thank you for the kind words. I'll make a deal with Ross, you can have this one as long as I win the National and the futurity next month.

However, I could use some of those 890 points towards Dog of the Year and the Invitational next year.

Good luck to you Ross.

Vagas

Yawallac · Post by **Yawallac** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:47 pm

89 dogs were drawn for the Championship!! Holy cow!! Thanks Clarence and good luck to everyone running.

BTW, Caladen's Struttin Gentleman is owned by GDF's very own Mtlee.

Both Sarah and Gent will be handled by the accomplished veteran handler, John Ray Kimbrell.

Post by **Sharon** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:32 pm

Wish you both the best and I don't want to hear any excuses.

12 Volt Man · Post by **12 Volt Man** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:00 pm

Good luck boys. Sounds like a fun trial.

RayGubernat · Post by **RayGubernat** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:43 am

Ross and Vagas -

I took a gander at the running order. There is certainly a star studded entry there. I have seen quite a number of those dogs in competition and have been braced with a couple when run by their amateur handlers. There are some truly outstanding dogs entered.

You boys have your hands full, but on any given day... you know how that one goes.

Again best of luck and I hope the dogs do you proud.

RayG

bobman · Post by **bobman** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:55 am

I would like to watch a big time trial like this,
what town is it held in
can anyone go watch

do you need to be on a horse to watch ( I have horses ) I would rather just watch on foot if that is possible

rizz1 · Post by **rizz1** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:17 am

i think it is called waynesville, GA not a hundred percent though. its near augusta.

Pineywoods · Post by **Pineywoods** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:39 am

bobman wrote:I would like to watch a big time trial like this,
what town is it held in
can anyone go watch

do you need to be on a horse to watch ( I have horses ) I would rather just watch on foot if that is possible

The trail is at Di-Lane plantation (a state run grounds) in Waynesboro Ga. Yes you can attend. No you won't be able
to keep up on foot. You will either hope for a seat on the dog wagon or ride a horse. Which is the best way to see
the show there are times the wagon has to take a short cut. for more details check here (http://fieldtrialpointers.net/drawings.html) and click on Georiga shooting dog championship and derby classic. You will enjoy.

Imfo on Di-Lane at (http://www.sherpaguides.com/georgia/wil ... th/33.html)

Yawallac · Post by **Yawallac** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:57 pm

Good luck to you Ross.

Vagas,

I posted just after you and missed yours. Thank you and best of luck!!

Clarence,

Did you notice on the running order that Sarah is in season again?? She is one fertile girl!!! We are picking her up from John Ray on Monday after she runs and taking her to Atlanta for a rendezvous with a Rail Dancer straw... I hope she has 14 like her last litter.

Also, I spoke with John Ray late this afternoon and he said that Gent had a clean run with a couple of finds today in the Derby classic. Lots of nice Derbies to go!! I have my fingers crossed.

birdogg42 · Post by **birdogg42** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:38 pm

Yawallac wrote:
Good luck to you Ross.
Did you notice on the running order that Sarah is in season again?? She is one fertile girl!!! We are picking her up from John Ray on Monday after she runs and taking her to Atlanta for a rendezvous with a Rail Dancer straw... I hope she has 14 like her last litter.

.

Hey Ross, What made you choose sara over your guard rail daughter?

Mike

Yawallac · Post by **Yawallac** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:11 am

Hey Ross, What made you choose sara over your guard rail daughter?

Mike,

Sarah's first litter with Strut was fantastic. Her second litter with my Guard Rail grandson already looks just as good or even a little better! I have some very well bred females in my kennel including now two direct Guard Rail daughters, but I picked Sarah for the Rail Dancer straw because I believe the Elhew cross will be excellent. Plus, If you look at her pedigree closely she goes back to Guard Rail six times and Rail Dancer once, so the nick is not a complete outcross by any means. I think it will be an outstanding litter and ties together a number of things that we are trying to accomplish with our long term breeding plans.

...but, if I can get another straw it will go into Girl.

snips · Post by **snips** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:35 am

Are you using Kestle?

Yawallac · Post by **Yawallac** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:11 am

snips · Post by **snips** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:12 am

Let me know how that goes.

Yawallac · Post by **Yawallac** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:23 am

Gene has a couple of straws there that he wants to use. The rest are in OH. He said that he has used her in the past with success. I'll keep you posted.

birdogg42 · Post by **birdogg42** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:08 pm

Any word on how the trial is going?

jakemaster · Post by **jakemaster** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:28 pm

Derby finished up today and Shooting dog started after lunch. Did not hear placements for derby yet.

Yawallac · Post by **Yawallac** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:49 pm

I spoke with John Ray and he said that Gent finished out of the ribbons. He needed more bird work but said that he heard a lot of compliments about him. He said that the judges told him that Gent was 4th on their cards (but they probably said that to the other 27 dogs too...

) A good coming out for the boy.

Sarah ran in the first brace of Shooting Dog after lunch and John Ray picked her up at about 45 with an unproductive. Said she wasn't herself and attributed it to her being in heat. Off to Atlanta on Wednesday ....frozen straws can't be very romantic though! Poor girl...

Go get 'em VAGAS!!

Post by **Sharon** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:55 pm

Sorry to hear that. I thought a bitch in heat couldn't participate?

Yawallac · Post by **Yawallac** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:00 pm

There are others as well and they are braced with other females...

It is noted on the drawing running order.

Post by **slistoe** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:10 pm

Sharon wrote:Sorry to hear that. I thought a bitch in heat couldn't participate?

Sharon that is only in single course trials. As Ross mentions, if declared at the time of drawing they will be drawn with another female. If they are already drawn and it is then discovered they will not be redrawn or allowed to run - they are out of the stake.

Post by **Sharon** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:49 pm

So would only females be run on the course that bitch in heat has run on? ( I'm told vaseline works great.

)

BoJack · Post by **BoJack** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:50 pm

Tuff luck Ross,but they gave it a shot.And them females can do some strange things when they're in season.Was hoping you had the dog to pull an upset and win it. Tracy,Eisenhart and Kinkelaar together had 51 dogs enetered.They all have large strings and are definately hard to beat.Kinda makes it's tuffer for the handler with a few dogs or a small string.But that's competition I guess.But with a little luck you can also beat the best of them on the right day.

Post by **slistoe** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:54 pm

No, but I have known a couple of fellows who had very successful males on the circuit here who claimed they didn't care if you put a bitch in heat with them on their brace - the dog would hunt anyway.

But then when I showed up at a retriever trial with a female for breeding the owner of the male wouldn't let me come anywhere near them - he wouldn't even come and talk to me lest some "smell" might transfer to him and be a distraction to his dog.

Post by **Sharon** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:21 pm

I don't want to hijack the thread anymore then i have. Appreciate the answers. I've sent some more questions in a PM . Your cheque is in the mail.

BrettBryan · Post by **BrettBryan** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:29 pm

Vegas,

How did your dog do? Nella's Running Tab?

ElhewPointer · Post by **ElhewPointer** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:51 pm

I don't run until the 28th brace which I think will be on Friday. I haven't heard yet if anyone is getting anything done.

BrettBryan · Post by **BrettBryan** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:08 pm

Good luck, sounds like a lot of nice dogs running.

NE Vizsla · Post by **NE Vizsla** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:21 pm

good luck to your dog on friday Vagas, would be nice to see a Nebraska dog win.

BrettBryan · Post by **BrettBryan** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:47 am

Vagas,

Congrats on your dog Nella Running Tab winning the AR Open Shooting Dog in Conway, AR!

ElhewPointer · Post by **ElhewPointer** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:48 am

Thanks. I didn't get'r done this trial but there is always the next one. I think I run this Thur. and then it is the National.

CherrystoneWeims · Post by **CherrystoneWeims** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:02 am

Ross, I am just seeing this thread so I won't wish you luck! It sounds like Gent did a very nice job out there. Yep those girls sure can be squirrelly when they are in season!!

WOW you are going all the way to Atlanta???? I would have thought that you would go to Sanford, NC (just outside of Fayetteville) to Dr. Settles. I've used her 3 times and have been very pleased. She has about an 80% success rate for surgical implants. Everyone that I know who has gone to her from Charleston and the surrounding area has had a successful litter.

jakemaster · Post by **jakemaster** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:21 am

CherrystoneWeims, He had to go to Atlanta cause that was where the straw was at. Would like info on this place for future needs if you can send it to us. Thanks

CherrystoneWeims · Post by **CherrystoneWeims** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:34 am

jakemaster wrote:CherrystoneWeims, He had to go to Atlanta cause that was where the straw was at. Would like info on this place for future needs if you can send it to us. Thanks

????? That's weird! Every time I have ever used frozen semen it was shipped to Sanford.