Stud won't breed, need advice

[OK quail hunter]

Let me just start with a little background info, the female is approximately 5 years old and has had 2 litters previously. The male is 2.5 and has never bred a bitch before. The female is known to be a little aggresive towards some studs but has not shown any aggression towards my male. When he is anywhere near her hind end her tail lays over and she stands there without any problem, but all he wants to do is lick her and pick up her back end with his nose. I have tried keeping them together in a kennel run for a while, let them have the run of the backyard without anyone or other dogs around, and even had her tied up and lifted him onto her back to try to help him get the idea. Im lost at what to do next, the owner has been waiting on this breeding for awhile now and I really want to get it done for him but have no idea what to do next. Any help would be appreciated.

[limited out]

How long has your female been in heat?

I went through the same deal as you are with my female I just bred about a week or so ago. She would stand for the male, but he would just lick her, and sometimes try to take a pee on her. But about the 3rd week of her cycle they bred. The time has to be just right, then things should happen. Because the male has not had the "expereince" he is not going to force anything, so the only thing that will make it happen is time.

Keep at it... good luck!

[aylaschamp]

My best advice, if your determined to breed the two, is to AI her with fresh semen. My bitch was a dominate one and would growl enough to turn off the old man. His lack of experience is showing and I'd find a good reproductive vet in your area. Either that or get in there and "geter done!". lol

[limited out]

My best advice, if your determined to breed the two, is to AI her with fresh semen. My bitch was a dominate one and would growl enough to turn off the old man. His lack of experience is showing and I'd find a good reproductive vet in your area. Either that or get in there and "geter done!". lol

That would be money down the drain... it still could happen naturally.

Wailt until she is 3 weeks in her cycle, if they still dont breed, then resort ack to Al.

[3Britts]

Just wait for a while longer, she may not be quite ready in his eyes.
I have seen a female stand at 3 days into the heat. Just keep putting them together every day and
see what happens. Your male will eventually get the idea and mount her.
I did want to mention that, if you crate them at night, you can try switching crates so that the male
is smelling the female's scent all night. It will help move things along.

[Elroy's Bandit]

Not an expert by any means, but went through exactly the same issue 39 days ago that you are having.My Male 2.5 ys old(first time) female 7 yrs old (previously bred)
First, to just wait 3 weeks as suggested does not sound like a good idea & it is not money down the drain depending where the bitch is at in her cycle.
PM me and I will give you the run down on what we did including a pedgestione test (mispelled I'm sure)
Bill L.

[Hotpepper]

Take the girl in for a blood test, it is simple and painless. The boy dog will know in the same way a buck deer knows to chase. BY HIS NOSE. It will not fail him or her

My old dog if they were not ready, he would just sit and look at them. No amount of coaxing would help him. Nature knows what it is doing and will take care of it.

Pepper

[R-Heaton]

Where is this 3 weeks in the heat cycle coming from? I have always thought a a female will ovulate around 10 days after the first day they started to show,,,, have had them go along as 19 but that was really late and not the norm.

[Ricky Ticky Shorthairs]

Take the girl in for a blood test, it is simple and painless. The boy dog will know in the same way a buck deer knows to chase. BY HIS NOSE. It will not fail him or her

My old dog if they were not ready, he would just sit and look at them. No amount of coaxing would help him. Nature knows what it is doing and will take care of it.

Pepper

I tend to agree with this. I have a stud who was never bred b4, bred him to my bitch who had been bred twice , and had no problems those 2 times. This dog wouldn't even sniff her when I thought that it was time, by counting days since I had seen first blood. (10 days) he waited 5 or 6 more days until HE knew it was time. He bred her 3 days in a row, no probs., couldn't keep his paws off of her!!!

Doug

[topher40]

You can save money by AI'ing yourself. I AI my females myself and it is VERY simple. Ask your vet for a kit or order on online. You can use the same one over and over again as long as you keep them clean. Nature has been working for thousands of years, but the technology is available so why not use it?

[snips]

Sometimes it takes the scent to be the very strongest for a young male to breed. Just because she is flagging does not mean her scent is the strongest. Females can be in standing heat around 10 days, so I would be patient a little longer. You did not say what day she was in her heat. I find most females are ready around 11-15 days. I never put the dogs in together and leave them. I will let them out together in the a.m. and again in the evening to see if it happens. It helps them to flirt, then if he starts to mount her get ahold of her head. Do not talk and do not help him.

[limited out]

Not an expert by any means, but went through exactly the same issue 39 days ago that you are having.My Male 2.5 ys old(first time) female 7 yrs old (previously bred)
First, to just wait 3 weeks as suggested does not sound like a good idea & it is not money down the drain depending where the bitch is at in her cycle.
PM me and I will give you the run down on what we did including a pedgestione test (mispelled I'm sure)
Bill L.

Don't just wait 3 weeks, try up until 3 weeks. At 3 weeks if there is absolutley nothing then try Al. It is money down the drain if she is only say a week into her cycle, which is exaclty why I asked where she was in her cycle...

Where is this 3 weeks in the heat cycle coming from? I have always thought a a female will ovulate around 10 days after the first day they started to show,,,, have had them go along as 19 but that was really late and not the norm.

A heat cycle lasts more than 2 weeks ( 2 weeks seems to be the general rule of thumb) my dog, Jessy came into hear March 17th, was bred April 1st, and she is still bleeding. I might have been speaking off my own experience, but I have also read & been told a females cycle is 3-4 weeks.

[ezzy333]

The cycle maybe 3 to 4 weeks but they are going to breed in some where around the 10 to 15 days into it. I have never seen a female breed much later than the 15th day. That means you better check or get her bred before waiting three weeks, Just in all probability not going to happen that late. But the male will tell you if you just be patient. The old saying was 1 week coming in,1 week in, and 1 week going out. And that isn't far from right.

Ezzy

[Hotpepper]

A hall of fame bitch was bred here on the 19th and 21st day, I did not believe it. She was very grumpy to that day and he just looked at her. On the 19th, she stood and we got the 1st of 3 ties. Had 10 puppies and a number of national winners. On day 23 he was not intersted and she was out of season, but was bred.

The blood test will show exactly where the bitch is in the cycle, a 0.7 says not yet, a 3.2 says she is abot ready, a 10.0 says she is in raoring estruses. There is a surge in the pregestrone level that occurs, that is why it takes several blood tests. It's just money that sometimes has to be spent to get it done.

I have direct knowledge that a bitch stodd, was bred and had puppies after being bred on day 30. It happens.

Pepper

[Ricky Ticky Shorthairs]

Jerry~Was that Morticia? Just curious.

Doug

[solon]

It is easy to miss the fertile window. If it were me, I would cover the bitch by using AI with fresh semen. The sperm live up to 5 days in utero. The most common cause of missed conception is breeding too late.

Here is all the info you should need:

http://www.vetmed.lsu.edu/eiltslotus/th ... _index.htm

Collection materials are available here: http://www.minitube.com/species_product ... 2&MI_ID=39

SLR

[snips]

Any luck yet?

[Ron R]

OK quail hunter,
Is she still bleeding at all? If so, there's nothing to worry about right now. If you go wipe her and it is completely clear (no pink at all) her fertile window has opened. If the male is not covering her at that time then you may want to go the AI route (time to get your hands dirty). As mentioned earlier you can call some local vets offices for the materials and for the pricing. I would call first, I've experienced that some vets will charge an office visit for there time. I hope this helps and good luck.

[OK quail hunter]

Thank you all for the advice and replies, the owner of the female decided to wait until another time. Thanks again for all of the advice, that is what makes this forum one the best around.

[JstLovesGSP's]

I have removed this post till either a url or some aknowledgement of the origin is put up. I still have it in another site that can't be veiwed so I can put it back up if needed.

Ezzy

[BigShooter]

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[3Britts]

A brief reminder. Unless you personally wrote an article like the one above, to avoid copyright infringement, provide the link to the website with the information instead of copying the article and pasteing it in one of your posts.

That, or include the author's name. Either way will work.

[BigShooter]

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3Britts, not to be the contrarian and I am not an expert but if I recall correctly even if you mention the author's name I think technically you also need their permission to reprint or repost their article ... and if I'm wrong I don't mind being corrected.

[3Britts]

A brief reminder. Unless you personally wrote an article like the one above, to avoid copyright infringement, provide the link to the website with the information instead of copying the article and pasteing it in one of your posts.

That, or include the author's name. Either way will work.

3Britts, not to be the contrarian and I am not an expert but if I recall correctly even if you mention the author's name I think technically you also need their permission to reprint or repost their article ... and if I'm wrong I don't mind being corrected.

Not to worry. I teach this to my college classes all the time. As long as you give credit to the author, you'll be fine. The problem only come to a head if you are printing it for resale. In this case, the member was just using the article as reference. Basic English 2010 stuff.