ezzy333 wrote:The dominance of the genes is not related to sex. Each give the same genes but there are some dogs that seem to be more dominant than others. The only other thing that must be considered is what does the female teach them when they are young. I do think she can influence attitudes by her actions and reactions to things.
steady on point wrote:Another trainer I know feels the males are simply sperm donors in that the traits of the litter will take more after the female than the male of the litter. He breeds the best possible female to above average males.
My questions is which sex carries the most dominant traits over to the litter?
bruns333 wrote:. To expound upon this I wonder what people think about breeding to grandsons versus sons.
PkerStr8Tail wrote:My two cents........I have also heard, as previously posted, that 60-65% of traits on average come from the female. I have never seen any scientific studies in writing, just folklore. If that is true, it would mean most big breeders are doing it backwards. How is that you say? Most big breeders use only Champion Sires (i.e. proven in the field) and breed to unproven(in the field) brood bitches. Even if the majority of traits do not come from the female, I still wonder why so much emphasis is put on the Sires and so little (in some cases) in the female. I would think both would be equally important and the females should prove themselves in the field as well.
Breeding is like rolling hundreds if not thousands of dice. There are so many combinations that the outcome is uncertain. Let's say the desirable traits equals the number 1 on the dice. Using proven males and females improves the number of theoretical dice with only 1's on all the faces(no matter how you roll them the come up 1). As anyone that has breed much knows though even with proven parents, there are no guarantees. Why? Because you can't control randomness or the outcome of all these combinations. A proven dog in the field shows they possess the right traits, but what you don't know is if they care many of the 1 dice from my example in their sperm or eggs.
tommyboy72 wrote:I always heard that 60% of what a pup gets he gets from his mother rather than his father. Traits like athleticism, intensity, birdiness, quality of nose, how they run, range, etc. I am not sure if this is true it is just something I always heard.
I will let you know if it worked for me when my pup gets a bit older. I have a very intense Miller/Fiddler female who is light on her feet, runs huge, is a bird finding machine but is hyper as heck so I crossed her up with my male Elhew who goes back to Strike several times in hopes of keeping the athleticism and birdiness as well as the excellent nose and getting a bit calmer pup who does not run quite so big while also adding a bit of size. My female is only about 45-50 lbs. and my male is about 55-60 lbs. and a bit taller and more muscular. So far the pup is tall and broad so I think I am going to get my size and she is fearless even at 5 months firing a 12 and 20 gauge around her doesn't bother her the couple of times she has been out with the older dogs on pheasant but she isn't finding birds on her own merely running with the big dogs so in time I hope she is going to hunt like her mother and look and handle like her father. It's probably not realistic to think like this but she is handling like a dream at 5 months and responds well but we will see when she puts it all together.
Birddog3412 wrote:I agree with bits and pieces of alot that has been said. I found this article a couple months ago. It is very funny how the most well known English Pointer breeder ever is so modest, and also feels it is sometimes just the luck of the draw when breeding dogs.
http://www.superiorpointers.com/pdf/Weh ... eeding.pdf
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