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IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:27 pm
by PkerStr8Tail
IL Open Shooting Dog Championship
Running Order
March 1
Nehawk Blackjack PM – Crayne/Daniels
Nototious Doc Holiday PM – Mathys

The Big Ticket PM – Miller
Westfalls Bell Express PF – Lewis

Cedar Ridge Tornado SM – Gearhart
Lawless Playboy Sam PM – Lawless

Notorious Red Bull PM – Mathys
Taiwha Lightning Rod PM – Miller

Nehawka Bodacious PM - Crayne/Daniels
Goshens Bull Market PM – Miller

Lawless Liz PF – Lawless
Notorious Big PM – Mathys

March 2

Lock ‘N Load PF – Stretz
Everbreeze Drummer SM – Daniels

Grouse Feather Mark SM – Dunbar
Easy Attitude Buddy PM – Gearhart

Honky Tonk Long Ranger PM- Miller
Crow Creek Queen PF – Wagoner

Grouse Feather Gretzky SM – Dunbar
RVS River Runner PM – Gearhart

Hollywood Buddy PM – Miller
Nennescah Blue PM – Stretz

Touch’s Approve PM – Ihrke
Baby Lukes Kelly PF – Wagoner

March 3

Grouse Feather Trooper SM – Dunbar
Eldad Nicanor PM – Shure

Island Grove Revenge PM – Hartke
RVS Flower Norsin PM – Gearhart

Oakgrove Gingersnap PF – Reisner
Nennescah Warpaint PM – Stretz

Longmountain Impact SM – Hartke
Ridge Creek Cody SM – Kinkelaar

Stars Paris Valley Will PM – Stretz
Daniels Creek John PM – Daniels

Waubeek’s Miss Sin PF – Wagoner
Windy Points Angel PF – Gearhart

March 4

Nennescah Queen Bea PF – Stretz
Rolling Hills Holly PF – Wagoner

Fibbers Rambling Rail PM – Hartke
Brown’s Brute Justice PM – Daniels

Offlee Amazin PM – Kinkelaar
Nennescah Trigger PM – Stretz

Nennescah Davis PM – Stretz
Ihrke’s Winchester PM – Ihrke

Maclu Gauge PM – Gearhart
Merryhill Dakota PF – Kinkelaar

Hot Topic PF – Kinkelaar
Blazing Glory PF – Wagoner

March 5

Nennescah Nicole PF – Stretz
Merryhill Carolina PF – Kinkelaar

Buckhearts Diamond PF – Wagoner
Gailen Lotto Kit PM – Gearhart

Windy Ridge Buck PM – Gearhart
Elhew Hannabell PF – Kinkelaar

Great Plains Boy Buck PM – Gearhart
Coltons Lil Duke PM – Daniels

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:32 am
by PntrRookie
Thx...where is this championship located? Any way to post updates/picts?

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:43 pm
by lvrgsp
Jim Edgar Panther Creek, west of Springfield, IL....about an hour and a half from me, I was headed over for a couple of days but work constraints say otherwise ...if I hear anything I'll pass it on...

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:19 pm
by High Brass
Any idea when the first brace will be run?

Thanks
Bob

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:33 pm
by lvrgsp
High Brass wrote:Any idea when the first brace will be run?

Thanks
Bob
Started Today Bob.

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:25 pm
by High Brass
Sorry should have been clearer what time of day tomorrow for the first brace.
thanks
bob

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:09 pm
by lvrgsp
Don't know for a fact, so take it for what it's worth, but my guess is they will start by 7 or 8 each morning....Hope that helps ya some..

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:02 pm
by PkerStr8Tail
Lawless Liz had the best run of the day. Nothing else notible from day 1.

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:59 am
by Pointers_31
My dogs run in the 10th brace (Les River Runner....not RVS River Runner) and the 14th brace (Les Flower More Sin...not RVS Flower Norsin). :lol: Good luck to all, it sounds like it will be a decent trial.

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:18 pm
by PntrRookie
PkerStr8Tail are you there riding? Heard Doc Holiday had a multiple (5) find hour? Any truth to that?

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:08 pm
by PkerStr8Tail
Pointers_31 wrote:My dogs run in the 10th brace (Les River Runner....not RVS River Runner) and the 14th brace (Les Flower More Sin...not RVS Flower Norsin). :lol: Good luck to all, it sounds like it will be a decent trial.
Sorry, I didn't type up the running order. I just copied the order that was handed out.

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:14 pm
by PkerStr8Tail
PntrRookie wrote:PkerStr8Tail are you there riding? Heard Doc Holiday had a multiple (5) find hour? Any truth to that?
I am not there, but will be there Friday. I am getting this information from people who are riding every brace. Of course what the Judges think may differ from what I am reporting. I am just trying to give some report for those who are interested in some sort of report. Doc Holiday did have 5 finds, but I was told the first find had some issues. (wasn't completely clean) Also was told the punch may not have been there to be in it. What I am being told is after day 2, Lawless Liz still may be on top with either Lock n Load or Touchs Approve in the mix for RU. On a side note one of the Judges got hurt today from a fall and if he can't continue a change in Judge will happen tomorrow.

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:42 am
by PntrRookie
PkerStr8Tail...nice recap, much appreciated, keep us posted if you can. Any update on how the setters ran yesterday. Hope the judge is OK...how does a trial replace a judge...is it "easy" to find someone who has seen the first few days to step in? Tough call, hope he/she is ok.

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:21 pm
by PkerStr8Tail
The Judge continued on, but just for information since you asked, the replacement would be the field marshall since he rode all the braces and saw all the dogs. Won't come into play though since he was able to continue. Interesting development today. The Judges are ordering up dogs saying they have better. They didn't do that the first two days. Several ordered up today. I was told one dog had 3 finds within the first 30 minutes, was perfect on its birds and was ordered up. The thought is they are looking for run and not necessarily just bird finds. Take that for what it's worth just an opinion. Several Champions running the next two days so it should be interesting.

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:36 pm
by lvrgsp
Yea several very good champions running the next few days....interesting to see what they do.....that's not to take away anything from the dogs that have ran...

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:04 pm
by PkerStr8Tail
lvrgsp wrote:Yea several very good champions running the next few days....interesting to see what they do.....that's not to take away anything from the dogs that have ran...
True, Didn't mean it as a cut to those that have run because afterall all Champions had to win their first one. It's not a popular opinion, but IMO human nature, whether consciously thought of or not, says that Judges are influenced by the stars on the circuit. I won't name any dogs, but I think you can look at the running order and know that when certain dogs come to line tomorrow and Friday they don't have to do anything special to get noticed. Those dogs are already known and expected to do well. They still have to get it done to win, but an "unknown dog" will have to wow they first to get to the same starting point to be judged. I don't want to turn this thread into a discussion as to how it is all fair and all dogs are judged equally, so let's not go there. Just wanted to follow up to your comment and assure you that I am not slightly any dogs that have already run. As of right now the Judges have two they like from the dogs that have already run or they wouldn't be picking dogs up that have not made mistakes.

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:10 pm
by lvrgsp
PkerStr8Tail wrote:
lvrgsp wrote:Yea several very good champions running the next few days....interesting to see what they do.....that's not to take away anything from the dogs that have ran...
True, Didn't mean it as a cut to those that have run because afterall all Champions had to win their first one. It's not a popular opinion, but IMO human nature, whether consciously thought of or not, says that Judges are influenced by the stars on the circuit. I won't name any dogs, but I think you can look at the running order and know that when certain dogs come to line tomorrow and Friday they don't have to do anything special to get noticed. Those dogs are already known and expected to do well. They still have to get it done to win, but an "unknown dog" will have to wow they first to get to the same starting point to be judged. I don't want to turn this thread into a discussion as to how it is all fair and all dogs are judged equally, so let's not go there. Just wanted to follow up to your comment and assure you that I am not slightly any dogs that have already run. As of right now the Judges have two they like from the dogs that have already run or they wouldn't be picking dogs up that have not made mistakes.
Yep Absolutely agree....

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:16 am
by Birddog3412
PkerStr8Tail wrote:
lvrgsp wrote:Yea several very good champions running the next few days....interesting to see what they do.....that's not to take away anything from the dogs that have ran...
True, Didn't mean it as a cut to those that have run because afterall all Champions had to win their first one. It's not a popular opinion, but IMO human nature, whether consciously thought of or not, says that Judges are influenced by the stars on the circuit. I won't name any dogs, but I think you can look at the running order and know that when certain dogs come to line tomorrow and Friday they don't have to do anything special to get noticed. Those dogs are already known and expected to do well. They still have to get it done to win, but an "unknown dog" will have to wow they first to get to the same starting point to be judged. I don't want to turn this thread into a discussion as to how it is all fair and all dogs are judged equally, so let's not go there. Just wanted to follow up to your comment and assure you that I am not slightly any dogs that have already run. As of right now the Judges have two they like from the dogs that have already run or they wouldn't be picking dogs up that have not made mistakes.
Do you know who the two dogs are (want to share) or are you just meaning that is why they are ordering dogs up?

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:50 am
by DGFavor
Wow, internet trialing is really coming into its own these days!! Heckuva lot easier on the body too!! :lol:

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:57 am
by Grange
Any updates?

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:38 pm
by PkerStr8Tail
CH - Lock N' Load
RU CH - Lawless Liz

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:52 pm
by Neil
PkerStr8Tail wrote:CH - Lock N' Load
RU CH - Lawless Liz
Champion Lock N Load, Chuck Stretz
Runner Up Lawless Liz, Jim Lawless

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:57 am
by Big Dave
Lock 'N' Load belongs to longtime field trialer Bob Reynolds of Kansas City, Missouri. Bob has judged, ran dogs and helped put on trials for what seems like forever in the Midwest. I believe this is his first champion. A big congratulations.

Re: IL Open Shooting Dog Championship

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:48 pm
by PkerStr8Tail
Congratulations to Jim Lawless for his RU with Liz. Jim is a true amateur and did all the training on his dog. He is one of the nicest people you will meet. I am glad he got a piece of it.