Stats

GrouseHunter22 · Post by **GrouseHunter22** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 2:46 pm

AKC's Dog registration totals are out for 2003 and here is how they stack up for the Gun Dogs:

Breeds 2002 Rank==2003 Rank 2002==2003

Retriever (Labrador) 1==1 154,616==144,934
Retriever (Golden) 2==2 56,124==52,530
GSP 22==21 12,174==12,269
Spaniel (English Springer) 27==28 9,128==8,860
Weimaraner 29==29 8,774==8,763
Brittany 30==30 7,846==7,751
Vizsla 46==45 3,106==3,181
Setter (Irish) 59==63 1,816==1,695
GWP 76==74 1,240==1,266
Spaniel (English Cocker) 75==75 1,248==1,255
Setter (Gordon) 84==87 866==780
Setter (English) 93==94 617==662
Pointer 100==104 535==519
W. Pointing Griffon 114==112 268==304
Spinone Italiano 115==119 242==247
Spaniel (Field) 132==124 133==174
Retriever (Curly-Coated) 129==137 141==119

WildRose · Post by **WildRose** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 3:40 pm

You might want to edit the cocker out of there. As far as I know there's not been a hunting american cocker in about 25 years. They are strictly a pet and show breed now. The english field bred cocker is a completely different dog. CR

GrouseHunter22 · Post by **GrouseHunter22** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 4:58 pm

That was an error. I meant to take it back out once I noticed that it wasn't the English. My mistake.

Colleen · Post by **Colleen** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 8:58 pm

Wow, GSPs are number three? So why am I always getting a blank stare in return when people ask me what kind of dog I have?

(Not really a question, more of just a general observation)

GrouseHunter22 · Post by **GrouseHunter22** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 6:20 am

Now you know how it feels to have Gordons.

Post by **Ayres** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:31 pm

Lots of folks think my vizsla pup is a coon dog, and the ones who can see that it clearly isn't a coon dog still ask me what kind of breed it is. When I tell them it's a vizsla, the look I get in response is usually one of "what the heck is that?"

I then tell them: "He's a bird dog."

GrouseHunter22 · Post by **GrouseHunter22** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:38 pm

Ayres wrote:Lots of folks think my vizsla pup is a coon dog, and the ones who can see that it clearly isn't a coon dog still ask me what kind of breed it is. When I tell them it's a vizsla, the look I get in response is usually one of "what the heck is that?"

I then tell them: "He's a bird dog."

Just think that there are over 4 times as many of them bred each year than Gordons.

Post by **Ayres** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 6:39 pm

Yes, but...

When I started researching breeds to get a pup, I had already heard of Gordon Setters and I had not heard of Vizslas.

Also take for example that Vizslas rank 46 while Irish Setters rank 59. I guarantee that an Irish Setter is more easily identified by a member of the general public than a Vizsla.

But, yes, I feel your pain. Before I actually researched dog breeds I was going to go with what dog looked best and fit my size requirements. A Harrier is a dog that looks to be a cross between a Beagle and a Foxhound, and is a medium size between the two. Just try to get your hands on one of those! I was making phone calls to California!

I'm sure glad I got off my keister and onto the web to research a bunch of dog breeds before getting my pup. I ended up researching, communicating and cavorting with vizslas and viz breeders for about a year before I got my pup. I'd recommend that to anyone though.

Colleen · Post by **Colleen** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 7:25 pm

I also made the mistake of telling someone my dog is a bird dog. Which he took to mean that GSPs are bird dogs, and bird dogs are GSPs, and GSPs only. I later overheard him at the park referring to my dog as a bird dog and basically suggesting only GSPs are bird dogs, and when someone says a dog is a bird dog, it has to be a dog like Fletch.

And this guy has a Lab from hunting lines :roll:

GrouseHunter22 · Post by **GrouseHunter22** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 7:59 pm

Ohhh, how some people are these days.

macstartan · Post by **macstartan** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:54 am

Very interesting.I don't have any stats on this but the Field Dog Stud Book Regesters more American Pointers than any other breed . When i reg a litter i reg AHC & FDSB.
G H 22 might be interesting for you to look into .
Mac

GrouseHunter22 · Post by **GrouseHunter22** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:41 pm

I looked and didn't find anything like that on American Field's site.

WildRose · Post by **WildRose** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:35 pm

We had a "debate" over registrations a few months back on another site. The FDSB registry has dropped from around 24,000 total news registrations each year, to about 15,000 for calendar year 03. The drop has been continual and dramatic.

The registry is about fifty percent English Pointers, thirty percent, English Setters, with Gsp's at about 3-4%, Brits, 2-3% and all other ponting breeds making up the balance.

Pretty sad considering how much older the registry is, than AKC and when you look at the increase in GSP's in the same time period which have increased by around 1200 per year since 95 Total GSP registration today is about 40% higher than either Es, or Ep. FDSB doesn't publish that data, I simply had to call and talk to the registration's head. CR

sudiegirl · Post by **sudiegirl** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:16 am

people always think my dogs are labs (especially when i actually have my lab WITH my other 2) then they accuse me of lying when i tell them they are NOT labs, but a gsp and a dk. the best though, was when a fellow gsp owner told me there was no such thing as a dk. i guess condor is a hollogram.... i didn't know those could eat! :roll:
sudie

Post by **Ayres** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 7:40 am

Ok, I'm lost. Maybe I'm just not up on all the acronyms that are used in the dog breed world. But... what the heck is a "dk?"

honeyrun · Post by **honeyrun** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:03 am

Deutsch Kurzhaar - translated to english is German Shorthair (without the point part) The "Pointer" was added when they gained AKC registration status. The AKC needed to have some type of type characterization in the name. They were consider both a retriever and pointer, so they had to pick one or the other.