sjkennels wrote:i whoa broke my short hair using the ps/pf method that uses only a cc and choke chain. i will need the barrel for training to steady to wing and shot no matter what. and yea i checked and made sure she can touch the ground with out killing herself.
Cajun Casey wrote:sjkennels wrote:i whoa broke my short hair using the ps/pf method that uses only a cc and choke chain. i will need the barrel for training to steady to wing and shot no matter what. and yea i checked and made sure she can touch the ground with out killing herself.
The picture wouldn't enlarge for me, so I couldn't see how long the tie up was. We don't hook them up on barrels, but do on the breaking table. Casey is long and tall enough, he can just bail off and stand there looking like he's going to order a drink or something.
Can you do a side view next time you have her up?
sjkennels wrote:i can put one up now
sjkennels wrote:yea i am going to FF her after i get her broke. i am planning on getting her a MH title and she is the only gsp that i have ever seen that doesn't retrieve naturally
sjkennels wrote:do you have any front and back pictures? if you do i would like to see them that looks alot better then mine
steamer wrote:can someone explain what you do with the bench barrel and post what are you teaching and that type of stuff would be great thanks for the info
birddog1968 wrote:The bench (narrow board) and barrel begin to teach the dog to stand (whoa) and allow the trainer to work comfortably and have the dog get used to being styled and have hands laid on him while he's standing. The post is where the the whoa command is forced.
SJ , this is just my opinion personally, but i would rather have the dog be able to hang himself if he jumps from the barrel or the board.....the discomfort of having tried to escape what is being taught will stick in the dogs mind more (IMO) than if he can jump off and just stand there on the ground. It allows the bad experience to teach him rather than the trainer.
Reminds me of the other day (case and point) , I was riding my pup thru the local wildlife refuge, in the truck. She got a little crazy when some geese and ducks flushed close to the edge of the road. She jammed her head out the window in a rambunctious manner (i had been trying to get her to stop this previous). When she got her head and one paw out the window the other paw stepped on the window up button choking her (slightly) with the window. I said nothing, let her squirm a few seconds then pulled her paw off the button so i could hit the down button on my side. Now she sits on the seat and looks out the window and has 0 interest in jamming her head out the slightly open window. All taught by herself without any negative association with me. Same concept as letting the dog hang themselves a bit before being placed back on the board or barrel.
I believe Delmar also has a couple pictures of this in his book by Bill Tarrent, the dog trying to escape the FF table.