Dogtra 2502

[Elkhunter]

Quick question for you Dogtra people, I have a 2502 that is giving me problems. I just sent them back to Dogtra to get batteries and antenna fixed/replaced and I went out training and dog took off after a deer. I cranked the collar up to 127 and hit continuous and he just flinches! I used to be able to stop a dog at 80-100 now I cant stop them at all. They want me to send them back to get looked at again, but I spent almost $600 on the collars and $135 on the repairs and dont have a collar that works. Just wondering if anyone else has that same problem.

[ultracarry]

If you want ill send you a tri tronics or dogtra 7100 h until you get it figured out. I don't have a dog around the house to use them on. The dogtra only has a 1/2 mile range which is kinda useless to me know depending on the training. Let me know u just would have to cover the 15 bucks for shipping.

[PrairieGoat]

Quick question for you Dogtra people, I have a 2502 that is giving me problems. I just sent them back to Dogtra to get batteries and antenna fixed/replaced and I went out training and dog took off after a deer. I cranked the collar up to 127 and hit continuous and he just flinches! I used to be able to stop a dog at 80-100 now I cant stop them at all. They want me to send them back to get looked at again, but I spent almost $600 on the collars and $135 on the repairs and dont have a collar that works. Just wondering if anyone else has that same problem.

I would say that there is something wrong......127 should make 'em yelp pretty good and immediately get their undivided attention! The batteries have been my beef on Dogtra units....had both a 3501 and 3502......the lithium batteries went bellyup in both just after they crossed the 1 year boundary.

[helpful_cub]

Even at 50 I've seen my GSP whelp and jump up a couple of feet. I've found that if the collar isn't tight enough and positioned just perfect then for some reason the continuous doesn't always keep hitting, making it more like a nick.

[Vman]

I`m tired so I will look at this again tomorrow.

But off the cuff,, you flunked E-collar 101.

[ultracarry]

If they aren't getting a good charge and/or dying they can do the intermittent thing. I have seen it on my own dog. I think its pretty easy to figure out if the color is not on tight enough and with having problems in the past I would send it back or try a new charger.

[Elkhunter]

I`m tired so I will look at this again tomorrow.

But off the cuff,, you flunked E-collar 101.

My question was not about how to use a shock collar, I have figured that out over the years, the question was if anyone else who has a Dogtra TB 2502 was experiencing it not working correctly. Thanks though.

If they aren't getting a good charge and/or dying they can do the intermittent thing. I have seen it on my own dog. I think its pretty easy to figure out if the color is not on tight enough and with having problems in the past I would send it back or try a new charger.

Thanks for the offer, my buddy has a collar I will be borrowing for a week or so till I get them back. The good thing about Dogtra is very very quick turnaround, usually 48 hours. I made sure it was charged fully before I took it out, and they just put brand new batteries in it last week. I made sure it was tight to his neck and everything ready to go and he took off and I started calling him off and slowly cranking the collar till it was maxed with him acting like he did not even have a collar on. Not to mention he is a pretty soft dog that does not take much to turn him. Never had a problem in the past with stopping a dog with them, but the last year they just went downhill and they are not even very old. They did say that they would replace it if they cant find a problem, so at least they are working with me. Pretty frustrating to say the least, my buddy has a TT that can melt plastic and its like 6 years old!

[ultracarry]

That's why I picked up a tt with 3 collars an extra remote a beeper when I had the chance. It was pretty cheap too. Ohh and 3 chargers lol. Don't stumble on that deal too many times for 350.

[myerstenn]

you have a 90 day warranty on the repair send it back

[Vman]

Ok, I am awake now.
I read your recent posts and sounds like you are doing everything correct. AT what level 0-127 would you normally correct this soft dog?
Also, charge the collars up and use the little contact light that is in the carrying case. Turn the collars down to about 10 and look at the light. Then increase the stimulation to about 40, then 60, then 80 then 100 then 127. The light should get brighter each time. You may be able to see the problem in the light. Maybe it works down low but not at higher levels. The light will also tell you if it is working intermittently.
Did you or Dogtra replace the battery in the transmitter?

[Elkhunter]

Dogtra replaced everything, I am sending them back today.

I can stop him with my buddies TT with a 3 pretty easily. I have never really had a reason to stop him till just recently with the deer issue, but in the past I could always stop a dog with 80 pretty easily.

[Vman]

Something has to be wrong then. Because I have been using Dogtra for about 14 years and I have never had to go over 50 and most I could stop the chase at 35.
My collars are just about always used from 14-25. for training and hunting.
Let us know when you get them back if things have improved.

[Elias]

i have the dogtra 2502 and its working gr8t! i never exeed the 40 on my dogs, they even jump off the ground if i push the constant button on 40. i noticed that when the dog becomes wet the contact points dont touch his flesh so it wont affect them, thats the only problem i had. check if the contact points are fully touching the dog's skin, and the collar is not loose around its neck and there is no water.
keep us posted.

[Ryman Gun Dog]

ElkHunter,
This is one of the complaints about the 2500 series Dogtra Collars, try to pick up a 2000 or earlier T&B Collar, or a new DT H20 T&B. These are the collars I recommend to our clients, the newer Dogtra collars are not the collars their older collar were. After close to 20 years I had both my older Dogtra Collars rebuilt, I love them. While Dogtra rebuilt my older dual units, DT had me testing their newer DT H20, T&B collars, these collars are engineered very much like the older Dogtra T&B units and work very very well. Sell your newer Dogtra unit and invest in an older Dogtra 2000 dual collar T&B set or the DT H20 T&B dual Collar set, you will see your quality jump back right away. It seems Dogtra made some engineering mistakes with their 2500 series collars, lots of people are having problems with their new stuff.
I had a 2500 set that worked very well, but even then the undermounted beeper, pointed at the ground and with a big running dog like my Gordons the locator beeper could not be heard at the same distance as the 2000 collars, this was a problem for me. If you have a medium to close running dog, you should have few problems with the 2500.
I train way to many dogs to limit the use of my Collars, when I pick up a collar I want it to be able to meet my training requirements no matter how big the dog runs in the Grouse woods, the Dogtra 2500 does not meet that requirement, the Dogtra 2000 T&B and the new DT H20 T&B do.
RGD/Dave

[crazyboy]

Did you try it on yourself?

[Elkhunter]

Did you try it on yourself?

I dont wanna chase a deer! I just hope I get em figured out cause it sucks right now.

[Fester]

I been using the 2502 all winter with no problem, I hope it don't blow up yet, I know 50 would burn my dogs up.
Fester