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Best Setter

Post by Fester » Thu May 26, 2011 4:17 pm

If you could go right now and get any setter pup you wanted, cost not being an issue or distance where would you go? this is just for opinions not to run anyones dogs down or start an arguement I am interested in opinion.
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Re: Best Setter

Post by Mountaineer » Thu May 26, 2011 4:35 pm

Old Hemlock

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Re: Best Setter

Post by PntrRookie » Thu May 26, 2011 5:35 pm

http://www.carpentersenglishsetters.com ... tters.html Skyhawk x Blue Horizon. Both proven trial dogs. Same nick produced winners.

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Re: Best Setter

Post by Cajun Casey » Thu May 26, 2011 5:50 pm

PntrRookie wrote:http://www.carpentersenglishsetters.com ... tters.html Skyhawk x Blue Horizon. Both proven trial dogs. Same nick produced winners.
I think I saw these pups on Bob's Facebook page. Very sharp looking.
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Re: Best Setter

Post by dan v » Thu May 26, 2011 7:25 pm

I'd have another one of these.

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Re: Best Setter

Post by Kmack » Thu May 26, 2011 7:32 pm

I like the young dogs I've seen by Jetsetter.

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Re: Best Setter

Post by Yahoo » Thu May 26, 2011 8:42 pm

Definitly call Vincent or Michaletz and get a Jetsetter pup.

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Re: Best Setter

Post by Fester » Fri May 27, 2011 5:25 am

Thanks for the opinions, they sound spot on, is Old Hemlock the one that has the breeding contract where you cant own the dog by yourself?
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Re: Best Setter

Post by shags » Fri May 27, 2011 5:47 am

Jetsetter X Johnny's Jewel

Or maybe try something out of Airbender

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Re: Best Setter

Post by Birddog 307 » Fri May 27, 2011 6:35 am

Jet Setter x Johnny's Jewel
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Re: Best Setter

Post by jlowery » Fri May 27, 2011 8:00 am

I have it.... Pointed, and held his first bird last sat at the NAVHDA Training day... Didn't get a pic of that, but here is one of a few months ago...
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Re: Best Setter

Post by kylemac » Fri May 27, 2011 10:09 am

In the same vain . . . why does it seem the the well-bred setters cost so much more than similarly well bred pointers and GSPs? This may not be the norm -- may just be what I have seen lately.

I am not a setter owner, but love they way they look and have been reading and eye-balling breedings/offerings for a few months.

Thanks.

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Re: Best Setter

Post by PntrRookie » Fri May 27, 2011 10:15 am

Here are 3 studs not as popular as Jettsetter, or Skyhawk that I would not mind a pup sired by...

Airbender,
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Re: Best Setter

Post by PntrRookie » Fri May 27, 2011 10:20 am

kylemac wrote:...why does it seem the the well-bred setters cost so much more than similarly well bred pointers and GSPs?
PROVEN top quality setter breedings are not as plentiful as Pointers and GSPs.

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Re: Best Setter

Post by JoeFriday » Fri May 27, 2011 10:23 am

I'm trying to recall if I've ever seen any ugly setter.. can't think of one

but I have to say that I always thought High Cotton's Joshua is a beautiful dog.

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Re: Best Setter

Post by tommyboy72 » Fri May 27, 2011 10:31 am

Anything from Bill Faust in North Carolina. That is where my last setter came from. I had her from the time she was 6 weeks until just a few months ago and she is 11 years old now. Fantastic hunting dog but does not like children at all. She went to live out the rest of her life with my dad. She went back to Ragged Hill Nip and Tekoa Mountain Sunrise. I would love to have another setter out of this breeding and to raise them with children.

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Re: Best Setter

Post by ezzy333 » Fri May 27, 2011 11:30 am

Here is a Llewellen on one of his better poses.Image

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He is a good dog but ugly as a mud fence.

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Re: Best Setter

Post by ezzy333 » Fri May 27, 2011 11:43 am

and another one , he is a good dog but ugly as a mud fence.

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Re: Best Setter

Post by GUNDOGS » Fri May 27, 2011 11:47 am

if i got another setter i would go to jim gourley in kansas again, hes a true setter guy..i like tomoka and tekoa lines..heres our setter bailey..he always looked classy in the field in my opinion...ruth
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Re: Best Setter

Post by hoosier » Fri May 27, 2011 12:42 pm

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Re: Best Setter

Post by Greg Jennings » Fri May 27, 2011 1:35 pm

Sure like the looks of that Jettsun dog!

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Re: Best Setter

Post by jlowery » Fri May 27, 2011 3:30 pm

tommyboy72 wrote: Fantastic hunting dog but does not like children at all. She went to live out the rest of her life with my dad. She went back to Ragged Hill Nip and Tekoa Mountain Sunrise. I would love to have another setter out of this breeding and to raise them with children.
My Setter was brought home to my son then 6 months, now nine. He has been a great addition. He rolls around with him all the time, he is great with him. I was a little nervous at first, but since he has been there since day 1, he has learned to accept his place.
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Re: Best Setter

Post by setterbud » Fri May 27, 2011 4:52 pm

seems like most including me want one from a aa field trial dog and not a NSTRA one. Me I am partial to the Teoka line

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Re: Best Setter

Post by High Brass » Fri May 27, 2011 6:01 pm

Probably shouldn't forget those old Ryman lines.

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Re: Best Setter

Post by tn red » Fri May 27, 2011 6:37 pm

Anything Miller bred 8)

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Re: Best Setter

Post by Fester » Fri May 27, 2011 6:41 pm

jlowery, man that is a great pic, a boy and his dog, looks like most of the setters recommended here are big motor dogs, but I bet most of them hunt the terrain if need be thanks for all the replies.
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Re: Best Setter

Post by solon » Sat May 28, 2011 4:24 am

Here are a couple of Long Gone bred setters: Boston backing his son Edgar (7 mon old):

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Re: Best Setter

Post by birddogger » Sat May 28, 2011 5:17 am

ezzy333 wrote:Here is a Llewellen on one of his better poses.Image

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He is a good dog but ugly as a mud fence.

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I would want a pup out of this one! :lol:

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Re: Best Setter

Post by Grange » Sat May 28, 2011 7:16 am

solon wrote:Here are a couple of Long Gone bred setters: Boston backing his son Edgar (7 mon old):

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I've seen some nice dogs, including my own (Grand sire and Grand Dam are LG George and LG Agnes), that are out of Long Gone Kennels. I've also seen Wintergreen Max, which should be considered one of the better cover dog setters today, and he really impressed me.
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Re: Best Setter

Post by panhandle slim » Sat May 28, 2011 8:00 am

No doubt about it. I have a young dog directly out of Rockacre Blackhawk. Definately the best setter blood available.

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Re: Best Setter

Post by JoeFriday » Sat May 28, 2011 9:10 am

I think my Kimber will look exactly like Edgar in about 6 months. And I'm very happy about that. Kimber is a mix of Dashing Bondhu and King's Bomber/Royacelle lines. I would choose the same if I had to do it again.

Ezzy, I guess I'm just partial to mud fences. I don't see anything wrong with that dog. :)

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Re: Best Setter

Post by highcotton » Sat May 28, 2011 10:58 pm

EZZY......you have to give that low styled Llewellin a break. I mean look at those backing dogs.

There are also Llewellins that look like this...
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Re: Best Setter

Post by highcotton » Sat May 28, 2011 11:00 pm

And this....

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Post by highcotton » Sat May 28, 2011 11:02 pm

And this...
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Re: Best Setter

Post by highcotton » Sat May 28, 2011 11:08 pm

And this...
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Post by Yahoo » Sun May 29, 2011 6:16 am

Highcotton
Then why wouldn't a person cull the Low style dog. Or at least castrate him. Surely they haven't bred him. Most Setter folks are tring to breed away from dogs that look like that when they are pointing.

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Re: Best Setter

Post by PntrRookie » Sun May 29, 2011 6:45 am

panhandle slim wrote:No doubt about it. I have a young dog directly out of Rockacre Blackhawk. Definately the best setter blood available.
:lol: :o :lol: :P

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Re: Best Setter

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Re: Best Setter

Post by solon » Sun May 29, 2011 3:45 pm

JoeFriday wrote:I think my Kimber will look exactly like Edgar in about 6 months. And I'm very happy about that. Kimber is a mix of Dashing Bondhu and King's Bomber/Royacelle lines. I would choose the same if I had to do it again.
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Your Llew pup is very handsome indeed and if he looks like Edgar when he grows up, he will be a very nice dog. One difference though, if you care about these things, which most likely you don't, is Edgar has in his 3 generation pedigree 70 championships, including some Grand Natl. Grouse champions. He is from some of the best cover dog trial setters going. He is not my dog, belongs to a friend.

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Re: Best Setter

Post by Wildweeds » Sun May 29, 2011 5:17 pm

one stop two shots........ 34 pound wonder that was a giant killer in terms of winning against superstar AA sired competitors. A good candidate for the ear punch cloning,if it wasn't so expensive,if I was rich I'd allready have two more.I've had 2 AA sired dogs both rolled together would make about 1/4 of the one pictured.

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Re: Best Setter

Post by JoeFriday » Sun May 29, 2011 5:25 pm

that's nice.

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Re: Best Setter

Post by KFhunter » Sun May 29, 2011 9:57 pm

I almost obtained a beautiful red setter

this big woman was in her subaru (green one too I think) and had this red setter in the back seat, obvously a young dog. I remarked that it was sure a nice looking dog, struck up a conversation. This woman had to have this dog because it was "so pretty". About that time a chipmunk ran across the lot and this setter locked up on that chipmunk for a second, then climbed over the seat and bolted out the window, the woman had a leash on so this setter was now hanging itself out this womans car window


she's like, "hey you want a dog?"

I was like oh man, umm wow ya sorta ya but but but

then she laughed and let me off the hook

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