Wagonmaster wrote:
Spoken like a true DK person. False premise. Actually, a number of false premises. Field trial dogs are hunting dogs. We have nothing but in our hunting group, and seem to do pretty well. Also, most field trial pros don't breed, the owners breed. But that's not what this thread is about, is it Coop?
Better question is why DK's are bred to kill cats, "protect the family," and fetch fox carcasses instead of to hunt. And why, after all these decades, DK people are still so into propaganda. Beyond me why you guys are still doing it, gluttons for punishment I guess.
DK person? I don't own a DK I haven't owned a DK, I am not into the german testing system...would I own one? Maybe if it were the right dog.
False premise? OF COURSE! What else are we going to do to get a good conversation going? It would be extra boring around here if no one ever posted anything off the wall made up or a hair brained idea. I can start another topic about why navhda sucks and how those dogs all hunt too close, and lack style?
Do to my job situation I wouldn't be able to get my dog to many trials, but also due to my job I am able to get my dog with a pro who is able to get him to some trials. So trying to pigeon hole me as a trial dog hater you are way off base, IMO the best dog is the one that can do it all.
Why can't we ever just discuss? Give YOUR thoughts on this topic does form follow function? I tend to believe that it does? How about you?
kensfishing wrote:As in most of these post, most people here have never ran a dog in an AF or AKC event that requires not just a great or good bird dog or the stamina it takes to get a dog around in an hour stake let alone to finish with pop or the feeling the dog still has a tank full looking good. Most people who hunt that thinks their dogs can compete with the best bred trial dogs have another thing coming. You just can't do it. As was said you may either get a really good trial dog or a great hunting companion.
I have not been able to acquire as much field trial experience as I would like yet, and no doubt you have forgotten more than I know. But we ought to be able to discuss differing opinions. I did go to Eureka and ride a bunch a braces several years ago, I did see some excellent dogs go, unfortunately my riding skills were not up to par the time and I spent more time worrying about the horse than I did about seeing the dogs run...