Raccoon help!
Raccoon help!
Need to know if anyone has a way to keep raccoons out of a dog pen. I was at a buddies house last night for fireworks and his dogs pen is getting over run by coons looking for dog food I guess. While we were sitting there he shot one and one got away. He said there are several each night that do this and he has already killed 3 or 4. The bird dog doesnt mind, just watches them come and go! Is there anything you can put out that will make them shy away?
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As far as smells or scents, nothing that i know of. You could always put a hot wire along the top where they are climbing in
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Night vision and a good quality air rifle why stop the target practice as long as they are coming
But in other ways raccoons are deeming when they find a food source and short of using poison there isn't a whole bunch
But in other ways raccoons are deeming when they find a food source and short of using poison there isn't a whole bunch
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I was kind of surprised at the dogs lack of interest in the coons. I know that they can carry disease and thought it would be a good idea to keep them out of the dogs space. I'm thinking we just might have to do the ole marshmellow/live trap thing for a while. Just thought there might be something that you could put out that would keep them away. Like the peeps at the apple orchard hang used dryer sheets from their trees to help keep the deer out.
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Got a PM that told me to pour a line of diesel fuel around the pen to keep them out. We'll give this a try, what can it hurt!
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Let a coon get in one of my GSP's kennel, and you'll see a dead coon. These dogs don't like them, or like to kill them.
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Where in Mo. are you located? I'm in Wood River, IL. just 20 minutes east of St.Louis, MO.
If you're not too far we could try one of thes guys;
If you're not too far we could try one of thes guys;
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North Central part of Mizzou, looks like those dogs would make short work of these cooms. Not sure how many are at his place but it seems like tons. He is about 300 yards from the creek bottoms and has CRP ground all around him, so I'm sure its a coon sanctuary!
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Near Macon, Mo.?Onk wrote:North Central part of Mizzou,
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Coons would not last 2 seconds in my dogs kennels but if they were a problem I would put a top on my kennels. If it is just a fenced yard hot wire is the only option.
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Have you tryed Invisible Fence, you can get it at Walmart , it's made to keep Rabbit's and deer out of your garden, but A friend told me it's keeping the coons out of his sweet corn.
Might give it a try.
Might give it a try.
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My dogs had a "Run In" with a coon during a hunt over Thanksgiving weekend.. I don't want them fighting coons for sport so to speak, but this encounter where it happend was pretty much unavoidable. Once it happend, there was little to do except cheer em on and hope they didn't get their arse's handed to em, or get hurt. They seemed to do rather well for themselves.
Birddogs are awfully expensive "coon dogs". It did get my coon hunting juices flowing! I used to hunt religiously with my cousin back in my HS days.
The pic is of "Cy" & "Clyde" they are father and son.
Birddogs are awfully expensive "coon dogs". It did get my coon hunting juices flowing! I used to hunt religiously with my cousin back in my HS days.
The pic is of "Cy" & "Clyde" they are father and son.
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Like the pics prairie! Yep that is all you can do, you for sure don't want to step in the middle of the fray!
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Don't let the EPA catch you or they will explain what it couldhurt. I would stop leaving food out for them and they will go away. They only climb in because they are invited.Onk wrote:Got a PM that told me to pour a line of diesel fuel around the pen to keep them out. We'll give this a try, what can it hurt!
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He doesnt leave any food out, only feeds the dog his couple cups twice a day. Its like they are stopping by to check out the bowl just in case. I'm sure they would have had to find something there at one time or they surely would not be returning.
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Other than a DD in the kennel, he could try one or two of these:
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prairiefirepointers wrote:My dogs had a "Run In" with a coon during a hunt over Thanksgiving weekend.. I don't want them fighting coons for sport so to speak, but this encounter where it happend was pretty much unavoidable. Once it happend, there was little to do except cheer em on and hope they didn't get their arse's handed to em, or get hurt.
I always have to chuckle when I hear people say things like this when we have little 12-15 lbs dogs that take on coons,fox,badgers, coyotes and wild hogs. However, I will say I kind of understand because I once had a setter who got his "bleep" whipped by a cat :roll:
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We use a large live trap, then just shoot them in the trap with a .22. You bait them with a little dog food for the first one, after that no bait is even needed. They are easy and cheap to make if you can weld.
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Hot wire is the only way I can keep them out of my crab tanks, did live traps, leg hold, and staying up and shooting them. They don't like the shock . My dog caught another one( #2) last week, let her out about 5am and heard the squalling, by the time I grabbed a .22 and a light it was over, she proudly brought her find back to the door and deposited it in my hand when I said "give". I should have took a pic.
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I've witnessed hundreds of coon vs dog fights in my teenage - early twenties years.. I've seen some big ol nasty boar coons be wound shot out of a tree, hit the ground and still hand out an arsewhippin on a dog or two. I've even had them so pissed they came after us when we got to close trying to help dispatch a big nasty. Many dogs have died at the hands of a big educated coon either by fighting or the coon drowning them.Georgia Boy wrote:prairiefirepointers wrote:My dogs had a "Run In" with a coon during a hunt over Thanksgiving weekend.. I don't want them fighting coons for sport so to speak, but this encounter where it happend was pretty much unavoidable. Once it happend, there was little to do except cheer em on and hope they didn't get their arse's handed to em, or get hurt.
I always have to chuckle when I hear people say things like this when we have little 12-15 lbs dogs that take on coons,fox,badgers, coyotes and wild hogs. However, I will say I kind of understand because I once had a setter who got his "bleep" whipped by a cat :roll:
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What you said... seen some good walkers messed up by a big coon.prairiefirepointers wrote:I've witnessed hundreds of coon vs dog fights in my teenage - early twenties years.. I've seen some big ol nasty boar coons be wound shot out of a tree, hit the ground and still hand out an arsewhippin on a dog or two. I've even had them so pissed they came after us when we got to close trying to help dispatch a big nasty. Many dogs have died at the hands of a big educated coon either by fighting or the coon drowning them.Georgia Boy wrote:prairiefirepointers wrote:My dogs had a "Run In" with a coon during a hunt over Thanksgiving weekend.. I don't want them fighting coons for sport so to speak, but this encounter where it happend was pretty much unavoidable. Once it happend, there was little to do except cheer em on and hope they didn't get their arse's handed to em, or get hurt.
I always have to chuckle when I hear people say things like this when we have little 12-15 lbs dogs that take on coons,fox,badgers, coyotes and wild hogs. However, I will say I kind of understand because I once had a setter who got his "bleep" whipped by a cat :roll:
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Barbeque and eat one of their buddies in front of them and I bet they think twice about coming back.
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No thank you...I like to eat but coon is not on my diet! Not a big fan of them in a dog kennel or on my plate!
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haha read a story on espn about a football player that ate lots of coon apparently its one of the leanest most protein rich meats out there. think i will just stick to chicken
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Birddogs are not meant to fight coons and luckily Jess' dogs didn't get hurt. I sure would'nt want to see my birddogs have a run in with one. Georgia boy, you chuckle when you here these stories because you probably have some bad little Patterdales but they too have lost their lives to coons. I say the same thing when my 60 lb walker is fighting a coon (you better win because you outwiegh it by 35 or 45lbs and little dogs can do it).prairiefirepointers wrote:I've witnessed hundreds of coon vs dog fights in my teenage - early twenties years.. I've seen some big ol nasty boar coons be wound shot out of a tree, hit the ground and still hand out an arsewhippin on a dog or two. I've even had them so pissed they came after us when we got to close trying to help dispatch a big nasty. Many dogs have died at the hands of a big educated coon either by fighting or the coon drowning them.Georgia Boy wrote:prairiefirepointers wrote:My dogs had a "Run In" with a coon during a hunt over Thanksgiving weekend.. I don't want them fighting coons for sport so to speak, but this encounter where it happend was pretty much unavoidable. Once it happend, there was little to do except cheer em on and hope they didn't get their arse's handed to em, or get hurt.
I always have to chuckle when I hear people say things like this when we have little 12-15 lbs dogs that take on coons,fox,badgers, coyotes and wild hogs. However, I will say I kind of understand because I once had a setter who got his "bleep" whipped by a cat :roll:
prairiefirepointers wrote: I've seen some big ol nasty boar coons be wound shot out of a tree, hit the ground and still hand out an arsewhippin on a dog or two. I've even had them so pissed they came after us when we got to close trying to help dispatch a big nasty. Many dogs have died at the hands of a big educated coon either by fighting or the coon drowning them.
There is a man that knows "all coons are not created equal".
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Run a hot wire around the bottom of the kennel you can get a pulse fencer at TSC for 20.00 some wire and plastic holders run two wires just to make sure. Watch him hit that wire, it is funny and he wont come back.
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Coon on a log........prairiefirepointers wrote:I've witnessed hundreds of coon vs dog fights in my teenage - early twenties years.. I've seen some big ol nasty boar coons be wound shot out of a tree, hit the ground and still hand out an arsewhippin on a dog or two. I've even had them so pissed they came after us when we got to close trying to help dispatch a big nasty. Many dogs have died at the hands of a big educated coon either by fighting or the coon drowning them.Georgia Boy wrote:prairiefirepointers wrote:My dogs had a "Run In" with a coon during a hunt over Thanksgiving weekend.. I don't want them fighting coons for sport so to speak, but this encounter where it happend was pretty much unavoidable. Once it happend, there was little to do except cheer em on and hope they didn't get their arse's handed to em, or get hurt.
I always have to chuckle when I hear people say things like this when we have little 12-15 lbs dogs that take on coons,fox,badgers, coyotes and wild hogs. However, I will say I kind of understand because I once had a setter who got his "bleep" whipped by a cat :roll:
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Birddogs are not meant to fight coons and luckily Jess' dogs didn't get hurt. I sure would'nt want to see my birddogs have a run in with one. Georgia boy, you chuckle when you here these stories because you probably have some bad little Patterdales but they too have lost their lives to coons. I say the same thing when my 60 lb walker is fighting a coon (you better win because you outwiegh it by 35 or 45lbs and little dogs can do it).
The little dogs I speak of are Jagds and I have seen some battles myself, especially when the coon or badger is twice the size of the dog instead of the other way around. If you doubt me check out you tube
prairiefirepointers wrote: I've seen some big ol nasty boar coons be wound shot out of a tree, hit the ground and still hand out an arsewhippin on a dog or two. I've even had them so pissed they came after us when we got to close trying to help dispatch a big nasty. Many dogs have died at the hands of a big educated coon either by fighting or the coon drowning them.
The little dogs I speak of are Jagds and I have seen some battles myself, especially when the coon or badger is twice the size of the dog instead of the other way around. If you doubt me check out you tube
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As a former jagd owner I think the same thing, but you have to admit that a jagd has a whole different out look and attitude than MOST run of the mill birddogs.Georgia Boy wrote:prairiefirepointers wrote:My dogs had a "Run In" with a coon during a hunt over Thanksgiving weekend.. I don't want them fighting coons for sport so to speak, but this encounter where it happend was pretty much unavoidable. Once it happend, there was little to do except cheer em on and hope they didn't get their arse's handed to em, or get hurt.
I always have to chuckle when I hear people say things like this when we have little 12-15 lbs dogs that take on coons,fox,badgers, coyotes and wild hogs. However, I will say I kind of understand because I once had a setter who got his "bleep" whipped by a cat :roll:
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Ditto! A hot wire is the only way to go and if installed properly will eliminate the problem. I doubt that you could shoot or trap enough to completely stop the problem.markj wrote:Run a hot wire around the bottom of the kennel you can get a pulse fencer at TSC for 20.00 some wire and plastic holders run two wires just to make sure. Watch him hit that wire, it is funny and he wont come back.
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If you get a very young raccoon, barbecue it and shred it, it is actually not a bad sandwich. Once they get any age on them, forget it.MO_GSP wrote:haha read a story on espn about a football player that ate lots of coon apparently its one of the leanest most protein rich meats out there. think i will just stick to chicken
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I have a new pup coming from Serbia and look forward to its arrivalACooper wrote:As a former jagd owner I think the same thing, but you have to admit that a jagd has a whole different out look and attitude than MOST run of the mill birddogs.Georgia Boy wrote:prairiefirepointers wrote:My dogs had a "Run In" with a coon during a hunt over Thanksgiving weekend.. I don't want them fighting coons for sport so to speak, but this encounter where it happend was pretty much unavoidable. Once it happend, there was little to do except cheer em on and hope they didn't get their arse's handed to em, or get hurt.
I always have to chuckle when I hear people say things like this when we have little 12-15 lbs dogs that take on coons,fox,badgers, coyotes and wild hogs. However, I will say I kind of understand because I once had a setter who got his "bleep" whipped by a cat :roll:
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I'll take a Patterdale over a jagd any day of the week for coon fighting. There ferocity and gameness are unmatched but the jagd is a better baydog as the patterdale will go straight in and the jagd is smarter in a sense to stay out of harms way. That would make them a better choice from baying lions to hogs. Both are fearless and have endless stamina.Georgia Boy wrote:The little dogs I speak of are Jagds
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I had a brace of pit bulls would tear apart anything I run them on. Coons lasted like 20 seconds. the good old hunting lines of them pits were fantastic dogs would run and tree anything, could sneak up to deer. Them days are gone now, not sure i would want them today.
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You needed to see my jagds, working "smart" was not their fortay... More head bangers. IMO Jagds far out shine the patterdale in most areas out side of below ground work.Ron R wrote:I'll take a Patterdale over a jagd any day of the week for coon fighting. There ferocity and gameness are unmatched but the jagd is a better baydog as the patterdale will go straight in and the jagd is smarter in a sense to stay out of harms way. That would make them a better choice from baying lions to hogs. Both are fearless and have endless stamina.Georgia Boy wrote:The little dogs I speak of are Jagds
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Most people here in North America have never seen a real Jagd. I will take a European Jagd over a Patterdale every day, above or below ground. If people wouldnt get upset I'd post some video and let them decide for themselves.ACooper wrote:You needed to see my jagds, working "smart" was not their fortay... More head bangers. IMO Jagds far out shine the patterdale in most areas out side of below ground work.Ron R wrote:I'll take a Patterdale over a jagd any day of the week for coon fighting. There ferocity and gameness are unmatched but the jagd is a better baydog as the patterdale will go straight in and the jagd is smarter in a sense to stay out of harms way. That would make them a better choice from baying lions to hogs. Both are fearless and have endless stamina.Georgia Boy wrote:The little dogs I speak of are Jagds
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