Rusty bred studs??

Ahumphers91a · Post by **Ahumphers91a** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:51 pm

Does anyone out there have any nicely bred Dixielands Rusty males being put up for stud or that have been collected?

Thanks

Southwind · Post by **Southwind** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:31 am

NC Strike's Flash of Gold was a grandson of Rusty. I believe Dr. Woody has frozen semen collected on him. My avatar dog is a daughter of Flash bred to a clown gyp.

Steve

Ahumphers91a · Post by **Ahumphers91a** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:15 am

Southwind wrote:NC Strike's Flash of Gold was a grandson of Rusty. I believe Dr. Woody has frozen semen collected on him. My avatar dog is a daughter of Flash bred to a clown gyp.

Steve

Thay is one nicely bred female!

Southwind · Post by **Southwind** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:05 am

Thx, she is pretty nice in the field too!

Vonzeppelinkennels · Post by **Vonzeppelinkennels** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:44 am

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Ahumphers91a · Post by **Ahumphers91a** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:01 pm

Vonzeppelinkennels wrote:PM sent.

Got it, thanks.

Vonzeppelinkennels · Post by **Vonzeppelinkennels** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:26 pm

I have a Direct son of Tonelli's Rising Son out of a double linebred Dixieland Luke female.
Also have a Dunfur's Where You Been & Tonelli's Rising Son Great GR Son out of that same Dixieland Luke bred female.

Ahumphers91a · Post by **Ahumphers91a** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:03 pm

Vonzeppelinkennels wrote:I have a Direct son of Tonelli's Rising Son out of a double linebred Dixieland Luke female.
Also have a Dunfur's Where You Been & Tonelli's Rising Son Great GR Son out of that same Dixieland Luke bred female.

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Dirtysteve · Post by **Dirtysteve** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:04 pm

How far back in a ped before one is not considered Rusty bred? I got dogs with Rusty in them but none I would really call Rusty bred.
Alot of Rusty through Rexx in this coming litter. Should be a male or two available when they are born for a potential stud
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=3864

markj · Post by **markj** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:18 pm

I got a female is a close linebred rusty, might get ahold of bustin loose kennel and ask Pat what he has now, he had some real close rusty dogs.

Bob Merkel still breeds dogs from that line too.

snips · Post by **snips** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:22 pm

Rich Miller has a linebred dam side Runaround Rusty male..He is a FC....Sire is Gambles Odyssey Fritz.

Vonzeppelinkennels · Post by **Vonzeppelinkennels** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:22 pm

Brandon I don't consider Sonny Rusty bred but some do.
There probably aren't many if any that I consider Rusty bred but Charlie Rose probably has a dog or 2 closer then any.
Now saying this when it comes to LD he gets credit for that so maybe more Rusty bred then some like.

It's kinda funny Rusty gets blamed for health problems but when it comes to FC's produced it was a pointer substitute.
GO figure!!

Dirtysteve · Post by **Dirtysteve** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:37 pm

Brandon I don't consider Sonny Rusty bred but some do.

Naw neither would I. He's more of an Elhew/Miller cross

Vonzeppelinkennels · Post by **Vonzeppelinkennels** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:44 pm

I like those WHITE MILLER DOGS

AND if you read Wheles books & believe them he must of liked GSPS.

ACooper · Post by **ACooper** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:20 pm

Vonzeppelinkennels wrote:It's kinda funny Rusty gets blamed for health problems but when it comes to FC's produced it was a pointer substitute.
GO figure!!

At some point it becomes more than a coincidence, maybe the get that are clean are the pointer crosses?

Vonzeppelinkennels · Post by **Vonzeppelinkennels** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:42 pm

Could be Coop but some of those Field CH were also carriers of LD hmmmmmmmmm more coincidences.
Regardless I like what I have as you do what you have & it's long past.
I'll stick with the American Bred GSPS & more white even though there GR mother was a solid lvr from some solid lvr HOF DC dogs.

DGFavor · Post by **DGFavor** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:44 pm

Yah, hard to know what to consider "Rusty bred". This dude is the baddest, toughest, AA GSP I've seen in several years, goes back to Rusty 4x over like what, 30 years

- tons of wild bird miles, finds his fair share and more, physical freak, the AA full tilt same litter brother to my Trixie who is more GD/SD in application but not a slouch by any means logging even more wild bird miles, success at hunting and FT's under lots of different eyes, a couple hour Ch's and Reg. DOY awards. He's a nice dog fo' sho' that I kick myself for lettin' get out of my hands as a 7wk pup, little doubt he'd have a few competition accolades of his own...and LD negative. There's more than a few hurdles for 'em to jump for me to consider 'em breeding quality and this dude passes 'em all.

http://www.hbv.netkennel.com/PedigreeVi ... ap%20Trick

http://www.vimeo.com/19285158

Ahumphers91a · Post by **Ahumphers91a** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:14 pm

there is some still out there, I have know where a grandson of rusty is (he's 11)

kbshorthairs · Post by **kbshorthairs** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:30 pm

I guess everyone has their opinion about what would constitute a "Rusty" bred dog. Rusty was whelped in 1978. Showing up once in a pedigree doesn't equate to being a Rusty bred dog......IMO.

gozz21 · Post by **gozz21** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:05 pm

Check out http://www.wilsoncreekkennels.com/Strap.html

I dont know this kennel personally but it says he has frozen semen on a son of Rusty and he has two grandsons of rusty.

Ahumphers91a · Post by **Ahumphers91a** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:44 pm

he sold out years ago, last AI breeding produced only 1 pup. I wont spend on the upwards of 2,000 for a chance of 1 pup IMO. Also this in my Opinion is a Rusty bred dog: https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=8 ... =inline&zw

DGFavor · Post by **DGFavor** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:59 pm

Also this in my Opinion is a Rusty bred dog: https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=8 ... =inline&zw

Appears to be largely linebred Google on my computer...???

Vonzeppelinkennels · Post by **Vonzeppelinkennels** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:59 pm

Your link gets me no where.

DGFavor · Post by **DGFavor** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:06 pm

Vonzeppelinkennels wrote:Your link gets me no where.

Maybe that's the point...on a thread with no good answer, refer folks to a link to nowhere! I like it! Gotta get that into the Chukar12osophy WWW handbook I'm workin' on.

Vonzeppelinkennels · Post by **Vonzeppelinkennels** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:15 pm

Hey Doug why don't you & Rich come east & judge a few of these planted bird trials,you might learn something!!

Ahump fix the link so we can see.

gozz21 · Post by **gozz21** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:17 pm

Like I said I dont know this kennel, but I figured a direct son of Rusty would qualify being rusty bred. I never said you had to pay him 2k for a fee. Just trying to help out

ACooper · Post by **ACooper** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:50 pm

Ahumphers91a wrote:he sold out years ago, last AI breeding produced only 1 pup. I wont spend on the upwards of 2,000 for a chance of 1 pup IMO.

If I am not mistaken yes he did sell out, but to another breeder who is holding the remaining straws.

Vonzeppelinkennels · Post by **Vonzeppelinkennels** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:52 pm

Yeah & the one pup could just as well been the mother.I didn't know he had sold out but wondered why his site hadn't been updated for quite a while & it's still be advertised on Gundogsonline.

Ahumphers91a · Post by **Ahumphers91a** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:20 pm

Sorry for the bad link, I will try and get it on here. But he told me he sold everything because a medical condition, and yes another kennel does have the remaining straws. I personally just don't want to take the chance on it after hearing about the one pup deal, but could also have been a fluke?

Ahumphers91a · Post by **Ahumphers91a** » Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:15 pm

Ok, here's his pedigree. He is a Grandson of Rusty on the bottom and 2x gg grandson.
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=3865

jasonw99 · Post by **jasonw99** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:11 pm

I was going to tell you to check with ken levy but I See you found it. he has other ones too that have a bunch or rusty in them

kbshorthairs · Post by **kbshorthairs** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:53 am

DGFavor wrote:
Vonzeppelinkennels wrote:Your link gets me no where.
Maybe that's the point...on a thread with no good answer, refer folks to a link to nowhere! I like it! Gotta get that into the Chukar12osophy WWW handbook I'm workin' on.

Ahumphers91a · Post by **Ahumphers91a** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:58 pm

Jason I just bough a pup from ken as well last month

Crestonegsp · Post by **Crestonegsp** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:24 am

If you are looking for Rusty lines the best you can do is grandson and I would call Chandler and if you feel like a long shot try Steve Lithgow.

Drifter Saver · Post by **Drifter Saver** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:48 am

There are three grandsons of Rusty within 30 miles of my house here in Michigan. One sired by Blue Earth Rex, one sired by Dandi's Runaway Rusty and one by Shoulder Strap Rusty.

Ahumphers91a · Post by **Ahumphers91a** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:18 pm

Drifter Saver wrote:There are three grandsons of Rusty within 30 miles of my house here in Michigan. One sired by Blue Earth Rex, one sired by Dandi's Runaway Rusty and one by Shoulder Strap Rusty.

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Ahumphers91a · Post by **Ahumphers91a** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:38 pm

DGFavor wrote:Yah, hard to know what to consider "Rusty bred". This dude is the baddest, toughest, AA GSP I've seen in several years, goes back to Rusty 4x over like what, 30 years - tons of wild bird miles, finds his fair share and more, physical freak, the AA full tilt same litter brother to my Trixie who is more GD/SD in application but not a slouch by any means logging even more wild bird miles, success at hunting and FT's under lots of different eyes, a couple hour Ch's and Reg. DOY awards. He's a nice dog fo' sho' that I kick myself for lettin' get out of my hands as a 7wk pup, little doubt he'd have a few competition accolades of his own...and LD negative. There's more than a few hurdles for 'em to jump for me to consider 'em breeding quality and this dude passes 'em all.

http://www.hbv.netkennel.com/PedigreeVi ... ap%20Trick

http://www.vimeo.com/19285158

Nice dog btw! Do you own Half Box Kennel??

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