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Pedigree German Shot Hair

Post by Pappy » Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:14 am

How are you able to determined a dogs pedigree ? I am looking to purchase a German Short Hair pup, but I have no idea what to look for in this breed. What is a good line to look for in the German Shot Hair breed. I am also looking for a pup to hunt with. There are so many breeders out there it hard to find a good one. Any suggestions would be helpful
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Re: Pedigree German Shot Hair

Post by jimbo&rooster » Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:35 am

There definately are a lot of GSPs out there. As far as finding a good one goes, there are a lot of them too.
The first thing you need to determine is what you want in a hunting dog. All breeds have dogs that work on the edge of shotgun range as well as dogs that will work at the edge of a zip code.
Look for a specific venue that tests or judges dogs to a level or standard you are comfortable with and start there.

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Re: Pedigree German Shot Hair

Post by reba » Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:57 pm

Pat,

In California all you need to do is contact Craig Smith, up in Tracy 209-481-4640.

Craig is and excellent GSP trainer and breeder.

Tell Craig "Dutch" from Atascadero said hello.

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Post by Troy08er » Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:16 pm

I know of a few nice GSP litters in our area. Have a friend breeding a nice EP litter this month.
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Post by jimbo&rooster » Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:35 pm

I wouldnt let state lines determine where I got my puppy....... There are ALOT of options out there.

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Post by Troy08er » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:45 pm

Here's a few around Bakersfield.

http://www.merrellkennels.com/ Is in Bakersfield and would know were to get a pup.LOL I think they know about the GSP lines.

http://www.mdkshorthairs.com/ is in Bakersfield and has a litter on the ground a lot of Beier's Evolution
stud was 2007~ #15 Nationally Ranked Open Gun Dog

http://landmarkennels.com/ has a litter on the ground, a lot of Beier's Evolution.

http://lowellsgundogs.com/ breeds some awesome bird dogs and has pups on the ground, he bred my Gator.
My friend is breeding his EP female which is out of : I B YASTRZEMSKI X I B BEAN and send her to http://www.ranchonekennels.com/index.html
be bred: I B JETCO. These should be some awesome bird dogs and he's in Bakersfield.

A lot of great dogs around the country but for me I like to watch the litters grow up and pick in person than from a picture. Just my 2 cents. Good luck.
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Post by ultracarry » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:27 pm

I would go with troys options and add Carl porter... huntingdogtrainer.net

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Post by ACooper » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:12 pm

Troy08er wrote:Here's a few around Bakersfield.

http://www.merrellkennels.com/ Is in Bakersfield and would know were to get a pup.LOL I think they know about the GSP lines

http://www.mdkshorthairs.com/ is in Bakersfield and has a litter on the a lot of Beier's Evolution
ground stud was 2007~ #15 Nationally Ranked Open Gun Dog

http://landmarkennels.com/ has a litter on the ground, a lot of Beier's Evolution

http://lowellsgundogs.com/ breeds some awesome bird dogs adn has pups on the ground, he bred my Gator.
My friend is breeding his EP female which is out of : I B YASTRZEMSKI X I B BEAN and send her to http://www.ranchonekennels.com/index.html
to bred to I B JETCO. These should be some awesome bird dogs also.

A lot of great dogs around the country but for me I like to watch the litters grow up and pick in person than from a picture. Just my 2 cents. Good luck.
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Re: Pedigree German Shot Hair

Post by smoothbean » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:58 pm

I'm agree with Jimbo. You better do some research on the pups you are looking at. If you are a foot hunter you may not want a dog whos lines are from horseback stock. They will tell you that you can always reel one in closer but can't make them hunt farther than natural but I can tell you it can be a constant battle keeping one of those big runners reeled in. If that is not your style it will turn you off in a hurry. Same goes for a close worker if you are hunting big wide open country maybe even off horseback. You really need to decide what "you" will be doing with it and not let someone else make up your mind. Doesn't matter how great a dog is for someone else if it doesn't fit your style you won't be totally satisfied.Don't be hurried into a decision. Take your time and do some research. If you plan to run some trials go to some and see some dogs and look for qualities you like.

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Post by ultracarry » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:13 pm

There are plenty of great options out west no matter what your looking for.....

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Post by birddogger » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:20 pm

smoothbean wrote:I'm agree with Jimbo. You better do some research on the pups you are looking at. If you are a foot hunter you may not want a dog whos lines are from horseback stock. They will tell you that you can always reel one in closer but can't make them hunt farther than natural but I can tell you it can be a constant battle keeping one of those big runners reeled in. If that is not your style it will turn you off in a hurry. Same goes for a close worker if you are hunting big wide open country maybe even off horseback. You really need to decide what "you" will be doing with it and not let someone else make up your mind. Doesn't matter how great a dog is for someone else if it doesn't fit your style you won't be totally satisfied.Don't be hurried into a decision. Take your time and do some research. If you plan to run some trials go to some and see some dogs and look for qualities you like.
+1! That is exactly the point I was making in a couple of other threads.

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Re: Pedigree German Shot Hair

Post by Pappy » Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:24 pm

Thanks for all the info. I do understand that I want a short hair that will work close range for me. Thanks for the info on the Merle kennel here in Bakersfield, I will be giving him a call tomorrow. He has been in the business for a long time. Not only that but I live here in Bakersfield. There are some more breeders up North that I am going to check into. I do have some work to do. My first dog that I purchased was the best dog that I have ever own. I just don't know if I will ever be able to replace him. I have owned two dogs since then and they both don't even come close. I always try to get a better dog but I just came to the conclusion that all dogs are different and some are just much better than others. Thanks again for all the info, I got some homework to do and some calls to make.
Pat.

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Post by Ahumphers91a » Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:01 am

Pappy wrote:Thanks for all the info. I do understand that I want a short hair that will work close range for me. Thanks for the info on the Merle kennel here in Bakersfield, I will be giving him a call tomorrow. He has been in the business for a long time. Not only that but I live here in Bakersfield. There are some more breeders up North that I am going to check into. I do have some work to do. My first dog that I purchased was the best dog that I have ever own. I just don't know if I will ever be able to replace him. I have owned two dogs since then and they both don't even come close. I always try to get a better dog but I just came to the conclusion that all dogs are different and some are just much better than others. Thanks again for all the info, I got some homework to do and some calls to make.
Pat.
PM Sent, and remember, you can always hold a dog from trial lines back with an E-Collar. Also, check out what David Dyal has in his kennel in Texas. http://bluemountainpreserve.com/
He has some really nice pup's on the ground right now, There sire is D-Two Buddy Lee ( FC Burr Oaks Hoosier Buddy x FC Dunfur's Anastasia) and the mother D-Two Itsy Bitsy Dixie ( FC AFC Sundance's Hearts Are Wild x Long Grove's Lucky Charm) Here's the pup's pedigree: http://nextgenerationgermanshorthairs.n ... erations=5

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Post by ultracarry » Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:30 am

Gabby... nice guy and yea I would agree with nice dogs. Great oaks kennel... san jaciento or Helmet ca I forget which city its in. There are also some hunt tests and field trials coming up in California city... the hunt test is a double double and some nice shorthairs and Vizslas out there.

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Post by Troy08er » Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:30 pm

Pappy wrote:Thanks for all the info. I do understand that I want a short hair that will work close range for me. Thanks for the info on the Merle kennel here in Bakersfield, I will be giving him a call tomorrow. He has been in the business for a long time. Not only that but I live here in Bakersfield. There are some more breeders up North that I am going to check into. I do have some work to do. My first dog that I purchased was the best dog that I have ever own. I just don't know if I will ever be able to replace him. I have owned two dogs since then and they both don't even come close. I always try to get a better dog but I just came to the conclusion that all dogs are different and some are just much better than others. Thanks again for all the info, I got some homework to do and some calls to make.
Pat.
Yep they have been in business a long time. http://www.ngspa.org/HOF-inductees/johnMerrell.html
Good luck on finding your new pup.
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