ultimate test of training
- pinebrookkennel
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ultimate test of training
Had an idea today after seeing a tv comercial about cloning your pet.
We find a hof dog clown, go boy ,crocket, fritz. The line is not the point of this idea.
First we clone a litter of dogs, every dog the same dna, all male, same egg, ect,ect.
Sell these dog at unreasonable price to anyone who wants to prove there training method is the best out there.
Take the proseeds from the sale and set up a test, trial, run, in 3 or 4 years.
Now my logic is there will be big money spent here to get in on this. Because if you can win
this trial, game, test you have the proof your method of training is the best out there. And that
is where the money is made. Books, seminars, corprate deals.
Am I crazy or should I start looking for some silent partners and a dna lab, what do you think ?
We find a hof dog clown, go boy ,crocket, fritz. The line is not the point of this idea.
First we clone a litter of dogs, every dog the same dna, all male, same egg, ect,ect.
Sell these dog at unreasonable price to anyone who wants to prove there training method is the best out there.
Take the proseeds from the sale and set up a test, trial, run, in 3 or 4 years.
Now my logic is there will be big money spent here to get in on this. Because if you can win
this trial, game, test you have the proof your method of training is the best out there. And that
is where the money is made. Books, seminars, corprate deals.
Am I crazy or should I start looking for some silent partners and a dna lab, what do you think ?
Make no distinction between practice and combat !
Miyamoto Musashi.
Knowledge, once gained can never be stolen or repossessed.
Jered
Miyamoto Musashi.
Knowledge, once gained can never be stolen or repossessed.
Jered
- Cajun Casey
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Re: ultimate test of training
A friend and I were talking about that show today and how much dog food for hospice patients's pets or formula and diapers for emergency infant services that chunk of change would buy.
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
- goldenpatch29
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Re: ultimate test of training
I like that idea, and i would just like to see who the best is out there. Except, I say clone a litter of mediocre, hard headed, stubborn pups and then lets see what happens!
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Re: ultimate test of training
goldenpatch29 wrote:I like that idea, and i would just like to see who the best is out there. Except, I say clone a litter of mediocre, hard headed, stubborn pups and then lets see what happens!
I got just the GSP for the job......
Jim
A limit on the strap is nice, but the kill has nothing to do with tradition.
- goldenpatch29
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Re: ultimate test of training
hahahaha....yes, thats the spirit.....see we already have the trial subject....I know a setter too .....we could try diffrent dogs with this expirement too...haha!jimbo&rooster wrote:goldenpatch29 wrote:I like that idea, and i would just like to see who the best is out there. Except, I say clone a litter of mediocre, hard headed, stubborn pups and then lets see what happens!
I got just the GSP for the job......
Jim
- pinebrookkennel
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Re: ultimate test of training
Casey
I haven't seen the tv show. Did they give a cost on cloning a dog ?
I haven't seen the tv show. Did they give a cost on cloning a dog ?
Make no distinction between practice and combat !
Miyamoto Musashi.
Knowledge, once gained can never be stolen or repossessed.
Jered
Miyamoto Musashi.
Knowledge, once gained can never be stolen or repossessed.
Jered
- pinebrookkennel
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Re: ultimate test of training
Jimbo
This is my point is your dog hard headed or did enviroment and training make him that way ??
This is my point is your dog hard headed or did enviroment and training make him that way ??
Make no distinction between practice and combat !
Miyamoto Musashi.
Knowledge, once gained can never be stolen or repossessed.
Jered
Miyamoto Musashi.
Knowledge, once gained can never be stolen or repossessed.
Jered
Re: ultimate test of training
You will never agree on the testing method and rules to prove the "best".
Haven't we already figured that part out?
Haven't we already figured that part out?
We have done something with nothing for so long we are now qualified to do everything with anything....
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=275
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=520
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=275
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=520
Re: ultimate test of training
I'm not so sure it would prove a thing. Even though they are identical and if all were trained by the same trainer I suspect that even those dogs would have good and bad days. How would you know the winner just had a goog day and the others a bad day? They are dogs. and sometimes they just have a dog day!
I pity the man that has never been loved by a dog!
Re: ultimate test of training
pinebrookkennel wrote:Had an idea today after seeing a tv comercial about cloning your pet.
We find a hof dog clown, go boy ,crocket, fritz. The line is not the point of this idea.
First we clone a litter of dogs, every dog the same dna, all male, same egg, ect,ect.
Sell these dog at unreasonable price to anyone who wants to prove there training method is the best out there.
Take the proseeds from the sale and set up a test, trial, run, in 3 or 4 years.
Now my logic is there will be big money spent here to get in on this. Because if you can win
this trial, game, test you have the proof your method of training is the best out there. And that
is where the money is made. Books, seminars, corprate deals.
Am I crazy or should I start looking for some silent partners and a dna lab, what do you think ?
Which Fritz dog?
Re: ultimate test of training
watched the show last night, 50,000 to clone a dog.
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Re: ultimate test of training
The 50K was a media discount. Normal cost is twice that. With the known health problems of long lived clones (Dolly, the sheep, for example), I would question the feasibility of cloning performance animals. I believe it's been done with a cutting horse, though.
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
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Re: ultimate test of training
pinebrookkennel wrote:Jimbo
This is my point is your dog hard headed or did enviroment and training make him that way ??
He is a naturally hard headed dog, probably too smart for his own good. He does have some training related issues from me starting him on early birds which has caused him to fight every inch of the breaking process but he is a hard headed dog that just isnt packaged real tight. he is a good bird dog and a good wild bird dog, but he will take his beatings in stride and continue about his way
A limit on the strap is nice, but the kill has nothing to do with tradition.
- pinebrookkennel
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Re: ultimate test of training
Buckeye
You are right there are many trials and test out there isn't there on "national field dog" a year.
As far as bad days yes we and dogs have bad days. I'm asking if this would show that a dog that lives in the house
And licks plates clean will be a better trained dog than one the lives in a kennel and get let out just to work.
Or a dog that is run out west in big sky country on wild birds is better than a dog trained with launches and pigeons
Will this test prove that by taking the dog out of the variable if there all the same dna?
You are right there are many trials and test out there isn't there on "national field dog" a year.
As far as bad days yes we and dogs have bad days. I'm asking if this would show that a dog that lives in the house
And licks plates clean will be a better trained dog than one the lives in a kennel and get let out just to work.
Or a dog that is run out west in big sky country on wild birds is better than a dog trained with launches and pigeons
Will this test prove that by taking the dog out of the variable if there all the same dna?
Make no distinction between practice and combat !
Miyamoto Musashi.
Knowledge, once gained can never be stolen or repossessed.
Jered
Miyamoto Musashi.
Knowledge, once gained can never be stolen or repossessed.
Jered
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Re: ultimate test of training
It may be more truth than fiction. Apparently, I'm only half a dozen years behind. www.viagen.com
Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.