Does your State require a plug for upland

[nikegundog]

Just interested in how many states require a plug for upland hunting. Minnesota and South Dakota do not.

[Sharon]

Yes they do in all provinces in Canada. Doesn't matter if your hunting for migratory game, small game or big game. All shot guns must be pinned (if using clip) or plugged (pumps and semi's) when hunting in Canada.
You actually must be plugged to hold 2 and the third is in the chamber (most dont realize that).

[Coveyrise64]

Only for migratory but wish they did for upland. At the rate we're loosing our gamebirds it won't make much difference in a few years.

Coveyrise64

[Sharon]

Only for migratory but wish they did for upland. At the rate we're loosing our gamebirds it won't make much difference in a few years.

Coveyrise64

It's very sad iosn't it?
40-50 years ago my Dad and i would walk out the door to hunt pheasant. Now pheasants and quail are gone fron Ontario and ruffed grouse is in trouble. All very sad.

[DonF]

Yep, Oregon does. Upland and waterfowl. Thing that get's me is that people know our birds are in trouble but still want to take all the limits they can.

[nikegundog]

Yep, Oregon does. Upland and waterfowl. Thing that get's me is that people know our birds are in trouble but still want to take all the limits they can.

This is interesting having grown up never having to use a plug in upland hunting, I have never heard of putting three or five shells in the gun as taking it to the limits it was just a common practice.

[Mountaineer]

I believe for deer Ohio is now down to three but for small non-migratory game I do not believe there is a limit.
There should be if there is not tho.

Pennsylvania scatterguns must be plugged for pheasants..I suppose for other game as well.
Well done PGC...again!

[Buckeye_V]

Plugs required in Ohio for all hunting. Funny listening during deer season to the guys who don't plug for whatever reason. I cringe and thank heavens we don't hunt deer like that on our land. :roll:

[A_LOTA_NOTA]

Yep, Oregon does. Upland and waterfowl. Thing that get's me is that people know our birds are in trouble but still want to take all the limits they can.

This is interesting having grown up never having to use a plug in upland hunting, I have never heard of putting three or five shells in the gun as taking it to the limits it was just a common practice. What is the limit of being ethical? I wonder how many guys who shoot double barrels only load one barrel for the sake of being ethical.

I took the post as a limit of birds not the number of shells loaded in a gun

[Elkhunter]

What about the dudes with extenda mags on autos?

[topher40]

Kansas doesnt require but I dont really care. I have shot one wild bird this year as I have carried a blank gun on every outing except one..... Just doing my part I guess.

[nikegundog]

What about the dudes with extenda mags on autos?

Never used one, however I have had had been on a few pheasant drives were I ran through my fifth shell and was using my auto as a single shot. I hunt the first weekend of SD pheasant season with about 15 guys and a few dogs, the posters do 80% of the shooting, sometimes all the birds come out the same spot so one guy may have 5-25 rooster fly by him in a matter of a minute. Its not that they are pulling the trigger for the sake of shooting, they are knocking down birds with the 4th and 5th. Pheasant drives are the way my grandfather hunted 60 years ago and we still do today, so when someone was talking about a 3rd or 4th shell being absolutly worthless I wanted to see how many guys have had the opportunity to shoot a 4th or 5th shot. IMO hunting behind a dog is more enjoyable, but a nice pheasant drive with good people is enjoyable also.

[Buckeye_V]

Just because you have the shell and there is a bird there does not mean that you should use it. I am not trying to tell you how to hunt, I'm just saying that is a lame excuse. Do you have to shoot everything that flies? Really? If you had a 20 shot mag, would you shoot 20 pheasants and stack them up like cord wood? Just curious. Again, I am not looking down my nose or anything - just genuinely want to know.

I could shoot 5 deer with 5 shells some times, but I don't because I don't need to.

[Petroplex Hunter]

In Texas you get 3 shots for migratory...no limit for upland

I've seen entire coveys decimated by groups of hunters....I don't care what you're shooting or how many shells you've got, this is unsportsmanlike and it makes me sick to even think about it.

[Meller]

Plug required in Mo.

[MTR]

Wisconsin - plug not required for small game. I guess when I used a pump gun it always had the plug in it in case I happened upon some woodcock while grouse hunting (migratory bird). I now shoot a SxS and don't ever have to worry about it. Personally, if I had 5 grouse get out of a covey, I would relish the fact that I could spend hours trying to get a shot at another one even if somehow a person was able to shoot 3 or 4 or 5 out of that single group flush. The same would go for pheasant - I want the time to last out in the woods. I don't want to be home in an hour after hunting with my birds and a honey do list to complete. I want to spend the time out there with the dogs and HUNT, not shoot.

I often get into disagreements with people concerning the bag and possession limits for game. Our law is your possession is twice the daily bag. I argue until I am blue in the face that this does not mean you can go and shoot a bag limit of pheasants (2 per day)7 days in a row and have 14 pheasants in your freezer. You are allowed to have 4 birds in your freezer! That's what makes me mad.

[deke]

I believe WA does require your gun to have a plug in it. Not really sure though, becuase all my guns have plugs and I have never taken them out. Also, i shoot an O/U for upland. In WA we are not even allowed to use mechanical broadheads for big game.

[Winchey]

Yes they do in all provinces in Canada. Doesn't matter if your hunting for migratory game, small game or big game. All shot guns must be pinned (if using clip) or plugged (pumps and semi's) when hunting in Canada.
You actually must be plugged to hold 2 and the third is in the chamber (most dont realize that).

Are you sure about that? Never read that here in New Brunswick, the hunt and trap book explicitly says you have to be plugged for migratory but doesn't say anything of the sort for small game/grouse or big game for that matter.

[ultracarry]

Plugs are a must in CA

[Sharon]

Yes they do in all provinces in Canada. Doesn't matter if your hunting for migratory game, small game or big game. All shot guns must be pinned (if using clip) or plugged (pumps and semi's) when hunting in Canada.
You actually must be plugged to hold 2 and the third is in the chamber (most dont realize that).

Are you sure about that? Never read that here in New Brunswick, the hunt and trap book explicitly says you have to be plugged for migratory but doesn't say anything of the sort for small game/grouse or big game for that matter.

Well I'm 98 % sure. that's the best i can do. talk to Great White at OOD.

[jcbuttry8]

Jersey and PA are plugged states. Even for Deer you are only allowed three in the gun. You should see the size of the ticket for no plug.

Joe

[ezzy333]

Three max for anything in IL. Which is usually 2 more than I use and can not ever remember using three at anything.

Ezzy

[Winchey]

Yes they do in all provinces in Canada. Doesn't matter if your hunting for migratory game, small game or big game. All shot guns must be pinned (if using clip) or plugged (pumps and semi's) when hunting in Canada.
You actually must be plugged to hold 2 and the third is in the chamber (most dont realize that).

Are you sure about that? Never read that here in New Brunswick, the hunt and trap book explicitly says you have to be plugged for migratory but doesn't say anything of the sort for small game/grouse or big game for that matter.

Well I'm 98 % sure. that's the best i can do. talk to Great White at OOD.

I don't really think it is an issue here, dog guys generally shoot O/U's/ and are chasing woodcock as well so they need to plug their semis. If you are shooting on the wing in the woods generally the odds of a great shot taking a bird on the 3rd shot is miniscule. The vast majority of bird hunters here are road hunters and just ground and limb swat anyways, a lot don't even know what a woodcock is even though they live in one of the best places in the world for them.

The only good reason I have heard someone have for taking the plug out was from my uncle (a swatter) who just took it out and filled it up so he wouldn't have to carry any shells with him on his hike.

[nj gsp]

Jersey and PA are plugged states. Even for Deer you are only allowed three in the gun. You should see the size of the ticket for no plug.

Joe

The only exception in NJ that I know about is the conservation order snow goose seasons where capacity is limited to 7 rounds.

[deseeker]

Nebraska has plug for waterfowl & dove---everything else NO plug

[birddog1968]

Delaware and Maryland , yes and yes on plugs. 3 shells. I believe Va is 5 for everything but waterfowl of course.

[birddog1968]

Wisconsin - plug not required for small game. I guess when I used a pump gun it always had the plug in it in case I happened upon some woodcock while grouse hunting (migratory bird). I now shoot a SxS and don't ever have to worry about it. Personally, if I had 5 grouse get out of a covey, I would relish the fact that I could spend hours trying to get a shot at another one even if somehow a person was able to shoot 3 or 4 or 5 out of that single group flush. The same would go for pheasant - I want the time to last out in the woods. I don't want to be home in an hour after hunting with my birds and a honey do list to complete. I want to spend the time out there with the dogs and HUNT, not shoot.

I often get into disagreements with people concerning the bag and possession limits for game. Our law is your possession is twice the daily bag. I argue until I am blue in the face that this does not mean you can go and shoot a bag limit of pheasants (2 per day)7 days in a row and have 14 pheasants in your freezer. You are allowed to have 4 birds in your freezer! That's what makes me mad.

Can you show us the law for your state that says you can only have a possession limit in your home freezer?

[RayGubernat]

NJ requires no more than 2 in the magazine.

Interestingly, I came across a Delaware reg that allowed unlimited bag of snow geese and also allowed the shooters to pull the plug on their shotguns. I don't do waterfowl so that was kinda surprising.

I spoke to someone who does do waterfowl and they said that an individual bag of 40 or 50 late season snow geese is not unusual.

RayG

[jcbuttry8]

Three max for anything in IL. Which is usually 2 more than I use and can not ever remember using three at anything.

Ezzy

Come out here and spend a saturday with us during deer season. You are allowed two does at a time and two bucks during shotgun. When we do a drive and push 60 to 200 deer passed the standers, bet you shoot more than one shell.

Best we ever did in one drive was 12 Deer. We normally get 4 to 5 drives in on a saturday. Last season with just the 5 in our club plus 3 youth hunters, we freezered over 98 deer from October to Feb 12th.


Joe

[nikegundog]

NJ requires no more than 2 in the magazine.

Interestingly, I came across a Delaware reg that allowed unlimited bag of snow geese and also allowed the shooters to pull the plug on their shotguns. I don't do waterfowl so that was kinda surprising.

I spoke to someone who does do waterfowl and they said that an individual bag of 40 or 50 late season snow geese is not unusual.

RayG

They are trying to thin the population because the snows are destroying the breeding grounds of the Canada Geese, I believe you are also allowed to use electronic calls on them in some states.

[BigTub]

no plug in AZ for upland (really non-migratory)

[nj gsp]

NJ requires no more than 2 in the magazine.

Interestingly, I came across a Delaware reg that allowed unlimited bag of snow geese and also allowed the shooters to pull the plug on their shotguns. I don't do waterfowl so that was kinda surprising.

I spoke to someone who does do waterfowl and they said that an individual bag of 40 or 50 late season snow geese is not unusual.

RayG

They are trying to thin the population because the snows are destroying the breeding grounds of the Canada Geese, I believe you are also allowed to use electronic calls on them in some states.

http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/news/201 ... eese12.htm

[birddog1968]

Its also all or most of the country in the spring conservation season....

[MTR]

I often get into disagreements with people concerning the bag and possession limits for game. Our law is your possession is twice the daily bag. I argue until I am blue in the face that this does not mean you can go and shoot a bag limit of pheasants (2 per day)7 days in a row and have 14 pheasants in your freezer. You are allowed to have 4 birds in your freezer! That's what makes me mad.

Can you show us the law for your state that says you can only have a possession limit in your home freezer?

from the Wi DNR small game regulations:

Possession limit means the total number of a particular game species that a person may
possess at any given time.

page 3 of this PDF http://dnr.wi.gov/org/land/wildlife/hun ... smgame.pdf

Have spoken with Game Wardens abut this, and Possession is Possession, you harvested them and you possess them in your home. They treat it the same way as USF&W does with possession limits for migratory birds.

Migratory Possession Limit: It is illegal to possess more than two daily bag
limits, except on the opening day when the possession limit is the
same as the daily bag limit.

try and plead your case with the feds like the guys coming back from North Dakota each year after a week of duck hunting with 30 ducks each - Feds fine you and can revoke privileges. Not good. Same thing can happen if you have a freezer full of ducks, I don't right the rules, I just try to follow them correctly.

I just decided to eatem the weekned we get them and we don't have to worry about it.

[nikegundog]

The regulation we've discussed that I can't find on the books is I'm allowed a possession limit of 15 pheasants on my SD license, I live in MN were the possession limit is 6 or 9 (3x daily limit) depending on the time of the season. No where in the regs does it address if I can keep my 15 pheasant limit from SD in my freezer.

[northern cajun]

I don't know but what is the reason for so many shells. I hunt and over and under and see no differences in what I can bag vs the guys that shoot multiple shot shotguns.

Very few people I know do any damage with the third shot or more.

[birddog1968]

I often get into disagreements with people concerning the bag and possession limits for game. Our law is your possession is twice the daily bag. I argue until I am blue in the face that this does not mean you can go and shoot a bag limit of pheasants (2 per day)7 days in a row and have 14 pheasants in your freezer. You are allowed to have 4 birds in your freezer! That's what makes me mad.

Can you show us the law for your state that says you can only have a possession limit in your home freezer?

from the Wi DNR small game regulations:

Possession limit means the total number of a particular game species that a person may
possess at any given time.

page 3 of this PDF http://dnr.wi.gov/org/land/wildlife/hun ... smgame.pdf

Have spoken with Game Wardens abut this, and Possession is Possession, you harvested them and you possess them in your home. They treat it the same way as USF&W does with possession limits for migratory birds.

Migratory Possession Limit: It is illegal to possess more than two daily bag
limits, except on the opening day when the possession limit is the
same as the daily bag limit.

try and plead your case with the feds like the guys coming back from North Dakota each year after a week of duck hunting with 30 ducks each - Feds fine you and can revoke privileges. Not good. Same thing can happen if you have a freezer full of ducks, I don't right the rules, I just try to follow them correctly.

I just decided to eatem the weekned we get them and we don't have to worry about it.

Thats what i do as well, ducks don't last long in my possession

I have also questioned game wardens i know as well as a fed warden.....to the letter of the law may be true....but its interpreted differently by different officers....some have stated possession ends at your doorstep, the fed told me if your not being investigated nobodies goin in your freezer, the law is there as another tool for LE to use if necessary in special cases....its a matter of intent, he went on to state they aren't worried about for the guy keeping a few ducks for the grill, stored in the home freezer. Straight from 1 of 1000 horses mouths....

I am sure if i would have asked him, 50 ducks in a camper freezer would be a different story maybe....as a vehicle they are still being transported. If you read thru game laws alot of time things are vague for a reason, so that common sense judgements based on circumstance and intent can be made.

But for me (like you) rarely does 12 ducks or 15 phez ever make it to the freezer Fresh is best.

[ultracarry]

We may only have a few officers for CA but man they are strict!

[Winchey]

They have to be, everyone in your state who breaks a fish or game law is under the influence of meth. Have you not seen Wild Justice?

[ezzy333]

Three max for anything in IL. Which is usually 2 more than I use and can not ever remember using three at anything.

Ezzy

Come out here and spend a saturday with us during deer season. You are allowed two does at a time and two bucks during shotgun. When we do a drive and push 60 to 200 deer passed the standers, bet you shoot more than one shell.

Best we ever did in one drive was 12 Deer. We normally get 4 to 5 drives in on a saturday. Last season with just the 5 in our club plus 3 youth hunters, we freezered over 98 deer from October to Feb 12th.


Joe

We used to do that till we all saw how many were wounded and not killed cleanly. Thats when we decided we either quit hunting or do it right and humanely, do now on our ground all hunting is sitting or stalking. I haven't shot at a moving deer in years and have never had to track down one either. Have helped the neibors track a lot though. No one is really able to be sure what is behind a moving deer and from a safety angle it just isn't smart either.

Ezzy

[ultracarry]

They have to be, everyone in your state who breaks a fish or game law is under the influence of meth. Have you not seen Wild Justice?

Lol I forgot about that show. Sure is full of tweakers.. Some people even have thier way with pigs.

[AzDoggin]

They have to be, everyone in your state who breaks a fish or game law is under the influence of meth. Have you not seen Wild Justice?

No doubt - it's no wonder the general public thinks hunters are losers. :roll:

If I get one more 'dumb hunter' joke from my sister-in-law I swear I'm going straight to their house and I'm gonna drop-kick her computer through the neighbor's pine trees.

[asc]

Fl. yes plugs for upland, waterfowl, and migratory. 5 shot limit for lg game.
We shoot (at) deer in front of dogs, lot more fun than sitting in a tree and harvesting them, more sporting too imo.
Some still shoot from horseback too.

[hettmoe]

3 shot limit in ND.