holding points

[bow.hunter123]

went out today and killed 17 birds held every point was an awsome time. last point of the day i was taking my vest off and she was still hunting and went on point i had time to walk to the truck get a gun load it and walk back and shoot it very proud today did great

[DogNewbie]

That's awesome. I've also been feeling pretty proud of my 8mon old pup recently. I'm sure a lot of guys wouldn't be as excited, but this is my first pup ever so I'm easily excited by his progress. We've been training every night working on fetching with bumpers and whoa training. I'm just starting to overlay the ecollar on whoa and with bumpers I've got him whoaing at heel and waiting for my release before he can fetch. Yesterday I had him out on a couple pigeons and ran him on the check cord. First pigeon he was steady to flush with no corrections leading up to the flush and the second pigeon he got a little competitive when the shooter stepped in to flush the bird and tried to lunge forward. Glad I had the cc on him! I shot one bird over him to see how our retrieving work would transfer over to birds and he did great. He went right out to find the bird, lingered a little too long but brought the bird right back when I called him. Really fun to see him progressing. Now I'm going to work more on getting him steady flush and if he's progressing well I may even try to get him steady to shot by the fall. Hopefully with repetition he'll start retrieving without needing to be called back. Fun to hear your dog is coming along well.

[Sharon]

What bird do the regulations allow 17 to be killed in one day? or were these planted birds?
If they were planted birds, why would you kill 17 in one day? Just wondering.

[birddogger]

What bird do the regulations allow 17 to be killed in one day? or were these planted birds?
If they were planted birds, why would you kill 17 in one day? Just wondering.

I am also curious.

Charlie

[gonehuntin']

What bird do the regulations allow 17 to be killed in one day? or were these planted birds?
If they were planted birds, why would you kill 17 in one day? Just wondering.

I am also curious.

Charlie

Me three.

[Ken Lynch]

Sounds like he was hunting at a preserve. He either had a good day finding extra birds or he had the preserve put out a lot of birds.

[SHORTFAT]

Consensus of curiosity...
Ain't gonna judge him cuz I don't know... I'm thinkin' they must have been planted birds, or it was some sort of private preserve... but this is what I found about N.C. regulations... if that's where he was...

QUAIL
Nov. 19 – Feb. 29
Daily limit 6; Possession 12; Season, no limit
GROUSE
Oct. 17 – Feb. 29
Daily limit 3; Possession 6; Season 30
PHEASANT
Nov. 19 – Feb. 1 (male pheasant only)
Daily limit 3; Possession 6; Season 30

North Carolina Hunting regulations link...
http://www.ncwildlife.org/Portals/0/Reg ... unting.pdf

[MillerClemsonHD]

He's in NC they are preserver birds. If he killed 17 wild birds in NC they might be extinct now!

I don't even know the guy, but if he isn't hunting on 10,000 acres managed for quail you can't find that many wild birds in the south.

Sounds like a good day. Fun when the young pups start to figure it out.

[Sharon]

He's in NC they are preserver birds. If he killed 17 wild birds in NC they might be extinct now! I don't even know the guy, but if he isn't hunting on 10,000 acres managed for quail you can't find that many wild birds in the south.

Sounds like a good day. Fun when the young pups start to figure it out.

Too funny.

[SHORTFAT]

Sounds like fun to me!!! I ain't seen 17 birds in one day since... well... guess I ain't never seen me 17 in a day!!! My dog would loose her mind!!!

[MHWH]

Some of you need to go to SD to pheasant hunt. You can only shoot three per day/ per hunter.
But...You can flush/point as many as you like. An average day where we hunt the dog gets
about 20. What I mean is he works and flushes 20 birds each day, some days more. Three days
of that and a one year old can be well on his way to being a bird dog.

JMHO

Mike

[birddog1968]

Am I reading this right? Are there folks here that think shooting 17 birds on a preserve is a bad thing ?

[Carolina Gundogs]

Sounds like your dog is doing great!

Most preserves around me require a higher minimum than 17 just to use their property unless you are one of their guides. I have 4 preserves within 1.5 hours from me that I guide at as needed. The lowest any of them will allow is 20.

[Sharon]

Am I reading this right? Are there folks here that think shooting 17 birds on a preserve is a bad thing ?

Not at all but he didn't say it was preserve /game farm hunting in his original post, so we asked.

[birddog1968]

What bird do the regulations allow 17 to be killed in one day? or were these planted birds?
If they were planted birds, why would you kill 17 in one day? Just wondering.

No worries Sharon, just wondered, the blue quote is why I asked....

[birddogger]

What bird do the regulations allow 17 to be killed in one day? or were these planted birds?
If they were planted birds, why would you kill 17 in one day? Just wondering.

No worries Sharon, just wondered, the blue quote is why I asked....

Same here birddog, I was just curious is all. Sounds like a lot of good dog work and good shooting.

Charlie

[ezzy333]

Am I reading this right? Are there folks here that think shooting 17 birds on a preserve is a bad thing ?

Nope but just something a lot of don't do because we haven't found a reason too. Nothing wrong with it if you buy the birds and want to clean that many. I personally would run out of money and would much sooner shoot a couple a day for 8 days than all at once, Heck of a lot better for me and the dogs. But everyone can do what they want if it's legal.
That doesn't stop people from wondering why.

Ezzy

[birddog1968]

Glad everyone one doesn't want to shoot two a day for 8 days, there would be no preserves, they'd all go outta business

[Montana]

Here in Montana we can shoot 3 pheasants, 8 Huns, and 4 Sharptails per day...... That's 15 birds and it wouldn't really be all that tough to do if a person was inclined to (assuming they had a good dog)... In a decent year it's common to find multiple covey's of 30 to 50 Sharptails and sometimes more. Huns are usually in covey's of a dozen birds or so and they are fairly numerous. You never know with pheasants..... I've hunted 15 minutes and killed 3 birds and I've hunted for 2 hours and not killed any, but generally speaking a person could expect to find and flush 20 or 30 in a morning. Of course many of these would be hens, which we cant shoot here. I don't hunt to fill limits... If I can go out and take home 3 or 4 birds, that's enough for me.

[ezzy333]

Glad everyone one doesn't want to shoot two a day for 8 days, there would be no preserves, they'd all go outta business

I've belonged to a club for many years and probably have had less than a dozen birds ever put out total. We use the clubs as training grounds and I don't want birds put out but rather hunt what has been out for sometime and or wild birds. That way they react very much like a native bird. Have them flush out in front or try to sneek out on you. If I can shoot a couple over the dogs we are having a great day. I hate getting the young dogs in a field where there are birds all over. I want them to have to hunt to find them and too many confuse the younger dogs quite often. That's why I don't like SD real well for a pointing dog. I'm completely satisfied with 3 to 6 finds and points. Go home and do it again in a few days. The birds I have had put out are usually used to show a dog to someone or to teach a kid to hunt and shoot. I guess I think of birds as more of a tool than the prize. The prize to me is seeing a young dog perform or a young hunters smile when we leave the field.

Ezzy

[3Britts]

My dog Ron did 13 on Saturday, but we were guiding for a party of 8. Four dads and 4 kids. It could have been something like that.

[SHORTFAT]

Good point 3Britts... it could have very well been a youth field day or some kind of large group... would be nice to hear some details and pictures!

[3Britts]

Like this?

[MJCarbonaro]

My dog did a 20 bird hunt Sunday for 3 of us, so there are plenty of opportunties and large bird package available at preserves

[ezzy333]

My dog did a 20 bird hunt Sunday for 3 of us, so there are plenty of opportunties and large bird package available at preserves

Sure are. We have one location that is used for groups that need 50 birds or more put out.

Ezzy

[bow.hunter123]

we killed 17 because i had 2 guys say they would buy birds if i brought my dog so i figured it would be good to get her on as many birds as possible. is it a bad thing that i killed 17 just wondering

[Sharon]

Lol Not to me it isn't bad, as long as they are being eaten. Glad you had a good time.

[birddog1968]

Ive got a dog thats done 8000+ so I'd say your safe


Glad you had a great time !

[bow.hunter123]

they just got eat tonight they were good to me too!!!

[birddogger]

we killed 17 because i had 2 guys say they would buy birds if i brought my dog so i figured it would be good to get her on as many birds as possible. is it a bad thing that i killed 17 just wondering

Not at all, we were just curious.

Charlie

[SHORTFAT]

Not at all!!! glad someone was into the birds!