What to do with new puppy?

trasmuson3 · Post by **trasmuson3** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:57 pm

So my wife has finally agreed to let me get a puppy his spring/summer and we are planning to get a GSP. Now my question is, what do you guys do with our pups when you and your wife are both at work all day every day? We have a nice dog run set up that goes inside our garage and also outside. Is it ok to leave a puppy in a dog run all day? Any advice would be great! This will our first real puppy, the one we have now, we got when he was about 4 months old, so we are kind of new to this whole thing. Thank you!

Post by **Sharon** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:05 pm

Sometimes you have to do what you have to do , but there's no doubt that leaving a puppy for 8-10 hours alone is hard on the pup. It would be ideal if someone could come in at lunch and take pup for a walk, and play with him. Make sure your indoor/outdoor set up is secure ; I had a dog stolen from my back yard. Enjoy your pup.

dakotashooter2 · Post by **dakotashooter2** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:39 am

I was able to take mine to work (in a crate) for about a a week before I left it alone but I am still able to check on it at home during lunch each day. If you are crate training it you might be able to take it to work and leave it in your vehicle/ truck, letting it out on your breaks and lunch. Thats what I do some days. I will never put a dog in an open top kennel again. My last springer scaled a 6' chain link kennel enclosure 3 times on me before it was 4 months old. That dog even tried to climb trees.

sniperjon · Post by **sniperjon** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:42 am

My wife and I both work a full day. Be prepared to take your pup right outside to go to the bathroom also the pup has been holding it in all day so just because the pissed once does not mean they are done. Being in a creat all day sucks I know but your pup will get use to it. I just spend alot of time showing love and playing when I get home.I also leave a radio on and have lots of toys in the creat.

cjhills · Post by **cjhills** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:50 am

Your puppy won't be able to go for 10 hours without peeing. Its bladder is to small. If you can come home miday to let him out or maybe get a trusted neighbor to do it. Resist the urge to get excited when you first get home calmly put him out . Play after he does his thing. Also when you leave resist the urge to make a big deal out of it. Pet him calmly ,crate him and leave. Not to much "good puppy you will be okay I'll be back afterwhile".
I would want this puppy to be at least eight weeks old before I brought him home. Nine weeks would be better. The breeder can really help by crate training at the kennel. alot depends on his emotional development..Being calm when leaving and returning will go along ways toward preventing seperation anxiety. It would also be good to have somebody with him the first few days. Maybe get him at the end of the week and be sick a couple days.
Dogs are den animals and don't have a problem with long periods in a crate(den) .The crate is never used for punishment and is a safe haven where only good things happen.
If you leave him in the outside run all day he will quickly learn to spend the day barking because of over stimulation and barrier frustration. Also to stand on his back legs with his front feet on the fence. This is very bad for his hips and maybe one cause of displasia. Also the danger of theft or predators is very real. Sometimes neighbor kids tease dogs when no one is around. this is very bad.
Remember in the wild the pups spend the day alone while mamma goes looking for food. A little help and advice from your breeder would be good . he knows the pups personality.
STay calm, relax pup picks up your fibes very easy. Hope all this helps. good luck. Its not that hard common sense,be calm and take care.
jerry

AzDoggin · Post by **AzDoggin** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:32 am

Agree with cj's post and the rest. Here's more info:

Owners who need to be away from home all day may have a more difficult time housebreaking a puppy. It is unrealistic to expect a puppy to last eight to 10 hours without needing to eliminate, even if it can do so overnight. An 8- to 12-week-old puppy can usually go about two to four hours without needing to eliminate.4 When left alone for longer periods, a puppy may be forced to eliminate in its confinement area or elsewhere in the house. This puppy will learn indoor location and substrate preferences. When leaving a puppy for prolonged periods is unavoidable, the owner must provide an acceptable substrate and elimination location. These can be paper or commercially available housebreaking pads left inside a crate or confinement area. But the puppy must have enough space to sleep away from its waste. When at home, owners using the paper-training technique should frequently take their puppies outdoors to eliminate and should discourage indoor elimination by removing the paper or pads and closely supervising the puppy. As the puppy gains increased bladder and bowel control, the substrate can gradually be eliminated.' Most 7- to 9-month-old puppies can go eight to 10 hours without soiling. But if the owner can arrange for someone to let the puppy out after about four hours, partitioning a large crate to encourage the puppy to wait may be preferable.

from: http://www.hilltopanimalhospital.com/housebreak2.htm

It's not easy managing a young pup with two working owners, but it can be done and it won't be long before the pup can hold it longer.

3Britts · Post by **3Britts** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:42 am

Hey guys, I don't think the holding it will be the problems as the puppy will be in the dog run and can go when it wants.
If you are worried, set up a TV with vhs player in the garage so that it can watch soaps all day. That should keep it happy.

AzDoggin · Post by **AzDoggin** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:07 am

Oops, my reading comprehension isn't what it used to be.

Yer right, 3Britts.

DonF · Post by **DonF** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:19 am

3Britts wrote:Hey guys, I don't think the holding it will be the problems as the puppy will be in the dog run and can go when it wants.
If you are worried, set up a TV with vhs player in the garage so that it can watch soaps all day. That should keep it happy.

I was wondering why someone hadn't mentioned that already. Tunr on a TV or radio and throw it some toys to destroy.

Post by **ezzy333** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:25 am

Having an indoor/outdoor run for the pup should be fine. Thats just about the perfect solution when both of you are away all day. Just be sure to get it out when you get home and have some play time every evening plus a walk in the morning if you can. A RADIO IS A GOOD SUGGESTION TOO.

Ezzy

Jiminla · Post by **Jiminla** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:00 am

You should be fine with the puppy run. Just take him on a run in the evenings when you get home. This is the beginning of the "control" aspect as you dictate when he comes out. I find it so funny when someone purchases a new pup or dog and they let it control their whole daily routine. Just remember that you control the situation. It may seem tough, but as long as your fair to the pet it all works out.

cjhills · Post by **cjhills** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:00 pm

I can't think of one good thing a puppy learns by itself in a outdoor run. I can think of any many bad things and many risks. j

Gertie · Post by **Gertie** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:46 pm

I don't know how feasible it would be for you but if the weather is cool and I know I'm going to be in the office all day I leave the dog in the back of the truck (has a topper) with a few chew toys and water. That way I can come out every couple hours and play with her and let her wander around. Now that she's gotten older, I take her on lunch-break runs with me too and that's good for both of us

However, when it's just not possible I either come home and let her out at lunch or make arrangements for a neighbor or friend to look in on her. It can be kindof a pain but a small price to pay in the long run.

JIM K · Post by **JIM K** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:27 pm

if you cant get someone you trust to walk dog at noon,I WOULD NEVER LET MY PUP HOME ALONE THAT LONG.
even if i had to hire someone you can trust, is way i would go if you dont have friend that would do it daily.
you should be able to find someone to walk puppy at noon to pee and play.

remember, do you want to work all day, come home and put up with puppy on octane because he saw no one all day?
i would not.

find a helper to help you for a few months.

trasmuson3 · Post by **trasmuson3** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:10 am

We plan on taking the new pup with us to work and stuff the first couple of weeks we have it. The only problem is dealing with the people who think that is wrong. Thats what we used to do with our dog we have now when he was a puppy and I really didn't enjoy listening to some of the people I work with tell me how wrong it is. Oh well gotta do what you gotta do...

AzDoggin · Post by **AzDoggin** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:29 am

trasmuson3 wrote:We plan on taking the new pup with us to work and stuff the first couple of weeks we have it. The only problem is dealing with the people who think that is wrong. Thats what we used to do with our dog we have now when he was a puppy and I really didn't enjoy listening to some of the people I work with tell me how wrong it is. Oh well gotta do what you gotta do...

Screw the people at work - your dog is more important than their opinions...as long as it's not a supervisor. Step your work performance up a notch and leave them thinking, "wow, this new pup has really got trasmuson3 going!"

dakotashooter2 · Post by **dakotashooter2** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:59 am

Explain to them that at this age they spend as much time or more sleeping as awake. If you leave the puppy at home in a crate or kennel he will sleep most of the day anyway. As long as you can get him out for 15 minutes every couple of hours he is just fine. Honestly I hate the thought of restricting a dog by crating him but a couple of experiences have taught me that it is in the dogs best interest for safety if he is crated on occasion. Crating him as a puppy will make this easierfor when he grows up.

Also ask them how they think a puppy feels when it has been removed from it's mother and siblings and is at home for 8-10 hrs with no contact at all. That may create a separation anxiety.....

trasmuson3 · Post by **trasmuson3** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:00 am

Screw the people at work - your dog is more important than their opinions...as long as it's not a supervisor. Step your work performance up a notch and leave them thinking, "wow, this new pup has really got trasmuson3 going!"

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Haha I appreciate the advice, I'll make it work.

Post by **Sharon** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:34 am

Do we have to screw the pwoplw at work? Can't we just nicely educate them ?

markj · Post by **markj** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:27 pm

I used to leave the tv on but then found she was ordering stuff from them weird channels, now I got a chicken cooker by ronco. 3 of them grills sold by foreman... a years supply of puppy treats from the treat of the month club.....

She is potty trained and has done very well in the house. so well my wife will not let me put her out in the kennel with the others. She is giving her a bath today....lets her sleep on the bed...

deke · Post by **deke** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:42 pm

my pup went to work with me for the first month or two and after that he went in his kennel next to the other dog. Never had a problem, now we can drive for eight hours straight on any hunting trip.

trasmuson · Post by **trasmuson** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:28 pm

What is everyone's thoughts on leaving the pup in an out door run with another dog? The dog is a mutt, very friendly dog, about a 50 pound dog. Are there any thoughts on that? Does anyone here kennel their dogs together? We plan on taking the new pup with us to work for the first month or so, but after that we plan on leaving it home. Thank you!

Post by **ezzy333** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:09 pm

You could do that for a few days or so. But it is good to let the pup know what kenneling by it self is all about too. They have to be weaned at some point and the longer you wait the harder it is on them. I kennel 2 or 3 together a lot of time but theu all have time to be in there by themselves also. Just part of the training that has to start when they come home.

Ezzy

RoostersMom · Post by **RoostersMom** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:22 pm

I would take the pup to work with me for a month or better as long as you can swing it. Mine would stay with me until they were about 6 months old or so. I have done this with all my pups but I mostly get pups in the winter time. I'd never kennel a pup with an adult dog - too much at stake with the little one being so small. We had a pup loose an eye and get a broken jaw from a larger dog and now I really steer clear of letting little pups interact with the big dogs unless very well supervised. Once the pup is older, you can kennel them together, but I don't see a real need to do that except on occassion if space is an issue - you want this pup bonded to YOU not to another dog.

trasmuson · Post by **trasmuson** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:28 pm

RoostersMom wrote:I would take the pup to work with me for a month or better as long as you can swing it. Mine would stay with me until they were about 6 months old or so. I have done this with all my pups but I mostly get pups in the winter time. I'd never kennel a pup with an adult dog - too much at stake with the little one being so small. We had a pup loose an eye and get a broken jaw from a larger dog and now I really steer clear of letting little pups interact with the big dogs unless very well supervised. Once the pup is older, you can kennel them together, but I don't see a real need to do that except on occassion if space is an issue - you want this pup bonded to YOU not to another dog.

Agreed. its not a matter of if I have space or not. I have one big dog run, but for the time being, I might have to switch it to make it two smaller dog runs until the pup is a little bigger.

dougroch · Post by **dougroch** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:52 pm

During the winter months (mild KY winter this year) I took my brit pup to work with me and left him in a crate in the backseat and would take a break every 2-3 hours to let him out do his business and stretch his legs for a few minutes. Boss even let me bring him inside when it got really cold until pup pooped under his desk and the boss stepped in it.... If only I could train pup to poo in the bosses chair that would be great. With it starting to warm up it will get too warm in the car for him to stay all day so I am going to leave him in his crate at home and run home on lunch to let him out. Eventually I will work him up to where he can spend the 9 hours I am away from home at work in his crate as this summer it may be impossible to make it home on lunch.

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