Old Style Ryman/Old Hemlock Pup

birddog98 · Post by **birddog98** » Sun May 19, 2013 1:10 pm

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mask · Post by **mask** » Sun May 19, 2013 4:09 pm

It looks like you might be spoiling that pup.

I should talk I have the most spoiled chukar dogs in the northwest. Beautiful pup.

Big bloc · Post by **Big bloc** » Sun May 19, 2013 4:50 pm

Nothing wrong with the that .I spoil my dogs all the time. Good looking pup

birddog98 · Post by **birddog98** » Sun May 19, 2013 7:26 pm

Thanks all my setters are spoiled! Just like family members!!

hill · Post by **hill** » Sun May 19, 2013 8:11 pm

Great looking pup. I love the look of those Rymans. Keep spoiling him.

NLsetter · Post by **NLsetter** » Mon May 20, 2013 10:20 am

Great looking pup.

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Mon May 20, 2013 12:03 pm

Not sure what "old style" means but a swell looking blue belton.

birddog98 · Post by **birddog98** » Tue May 21, 2013 10:47 am

Old Style Meaning! From George Bird Evans and George Ryman Close working Hunting Setter!

Thanks love them! They are not big runners...Males 70lb females 58 or so!! Of course this can range!!

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Tue May 21, 2013 11:13 am

I assumed it was the Old Hemlock "noble head", as GBE would say.
Beautiful dogs.
Not sure though that Rymans of old are represented anywhere today.
Maybe....hard to say.
I think you may discover that lighter weights by 10 pounds + are now more wisely considered by thinking breeders of the type.

Enjoy the pup!

birddog98 · Post by **birddog98** » Tue May 21, 2013 11:16 am

Oh breeding foe a smaller weight so right there and what I have done! I have seen from other kennels go as much as 80 +++ pounds!!!

northernco · Post by **northernco** » Wed May 22, 2013 9:04 pm

Great looking pup! When the time comes for me to get a setter, that's the color I want! Keep us posted...

birddog98 · Post by **birddog98** » Thu May 23, 2013 7:56 am

Thanks...There will be a littler soon expecting the same look with blues and tris!!!

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Thu May 23, 2013 8:24 am

birddog98 wrote:Thanks...There will be a littler soon expecting the same look with blues and tris!!!

What is the breeding, top and bottom?

cohanzick creek · Post by **cohanzick creek** » Thu May 23, 2013 9:40 am

nice pup
cc

birddog98 · Post by **birddog98** » Fri May 24, 2013 9:17 am

Top: Alder Run, Old Hemlock, October, Pinecoble,

Bottom: Setters West, Setter Hills, German

birddog98 · Post by **birddog98** » Fri May 24, 2013 9:18 am

CC spent many of days at the zoo they had in your town!! Lived in the area for many years!!

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Fri May 24, 2013 9:55 am

birddog98 wrote:Top: Alder Run, Old Hemlock, October, Pinecoble,

Bottom: Setters West, Setter Hills, German

Old Hemlock Who?

birddog98 · Post by **birddog98** » Fri May 24, 2013 2:06 pm

I believe it was Chance and Todd will have to look again since these are some of the older dogs! Old Hemlock now they only breed to who they want and have say to who you breed to in their conmtract etc!!! These older dogs were Georges

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Fri May 24, 2013 2:35 pm

OK, thanks...just curious.
I believe you would find that GBE was equally concerned with attempting to maintain some measure of control and direction over that which he was building.
Many though, sought to market off the name for some increased filthy lucre.
One will always have that.

birddog98 · Post by **birddog98** » Fri May 24, 2013 2:56 pm

Yes he was trying to control!! And people even tol me I cant sell my pups because Old Hemkock Blood!! To me you look to better the breed, Do OFA Thyroid Elbows Hearing which is all past on...I wonder how many people do that on hear?....Maybe hips! I have heard alot of people say I know my line I dont need to have that done! I just dont believe that!! If your going to try and better the breed certain measures should be taken!!

birddog98 · Post by **birddog98** » Fri May 24, 2013 2:57 pm

Excuse my typos I tend to type to quick and at work!! lol!!

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Fri May 24, 2013 3:40 pm

Fingers have a mind of their own sometimes.

Control can be a good thing.
Experience with any line of dogs proceeding to a goal is also a fine additive and necessary decision.
Experience seldom comes with only the purchase of any dog.
Folks often want a "name" dog simply to sell pups for more money...imo, a bad single purpose, but it happens.
One has the choice to go elsewhere, as has been mentioned here ad nauseum.

birddog98 · Post by **birddog98** » Fri May 24, 2013 4:27 pm

You are correct we both could name BIG Kennels all day! Some people tend to think they are higher class if they have a dog from there etc...

For me when I have a litter which this will be my first in three years, we both know if you take in account all you time etc...You do not make a dollar off your pups....I'm not selling big running setters for trials....Just a good hunting dog that can creep along the grouse and woodcock woods!

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Fri May 24, 2013 4:34 pm

Sometimes, it's just about moving the pups from any litter for folks.
Lot of dogs out and about attracting buyers....many need a niche.
Not a fan of creeping along re grouse dogs but...Good Luck, have fun with your pups.

I hunt a couple washed-out of FTing setters for ruffed grouse and more....they do fine and hunt both the birds and the cover.
Can't ask much more than that.

birddog98 · Post by **birddog98** » Fri May 24, 2013 5:02 pm

Thanks.....I will we all like what type of breed etc...I also have Llewellins as long as a bird dog is doing what it is suppose to do, I have no problem with any of the breeds! Although I will just enjoy the pups for eight weeks what ever I have they are going to repeat buyers in the past most anyway! So Im happy I know they will have a good home and be happy!

traveller2926 · Post by **traveller2926** » Sat May 25, 2013 9:32 am

Top: Alder Run, Old Hemlock, October, Pinecoble,=... None better! I really enjoyed seeing that pup. I have a male and a female with the same lines. You will enjoy this pup.

S'setter · Post by **S'setter** » Mon May 27, 2013 6:52 am

We are currently looking for a Pup like yours, out of this type lines... Is this what you are breeding? Any litters coming?

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