GSPCA National Championship

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:03 am

The results are up for the GSPCA National Amateur Championship. The winner was FC/AFC Gabbe's High Plains Rock Solid, owned, bred and handled by Kevin Waide. There were 95 dogs entered and it took 6 days to run the stake. The National Futurity starts today. There are 89 entries in the Futurity.

Results are at http://www.gspca.org/NFT/results.htm . They are doing a very nice job of posting pics this year. The Running Order and pics can be found by going through the home page, http://www.gspca.org .

There were 303 total entries. Three weeks give or take to run the whole event.

bruin · Post by **bruin** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:03 am

When is the AA?

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:08 am

Most likely will start Thur. a.m.

Rodger · Post by **Rodger** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:13 am

John, You think they'll scribe the AA this year?

Rodger

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:19 am

Why should this year be any different?

Someone will offer to do it, and then the dog will eat their notes.

TrueBlu Shorthairs · Post by **TrueBlu Shorthairs** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:45 am

A note on Kevin Waid's dog...she did an outstanding job in the second series. She ran a big Sd race, had 6 perfect finds, lots of style, manners, just a neat dog. Out of 96 dogs who competed, 50 were clean. Speaks volumes for the pro and amateur efforts on the dogs in this stake. I am amazed this dog hasn't won more. As usual you had many opinions of who should have placed where, but I saw Toby, Tarkus, Chloe, Gabby, and others run and imho she was awesome.

Rodger, Kevin got a pup from the Hud/Libby litter. Picked mine up while up there, TrueBlu's Leather and Lace, Lacie, she is a fireball!!

Rodger · Post by **Rodger** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:05 am

Blake, Does my heart good to know that Bill's placing those pups with trialers. Especially the guy that bred, ownded and handled the Amateur champion. Congratulations to Mr. Waid!

Can't wait to see some pictures of Lacie! Maybe I'll see her at the Nov trial. Glad you and Bill connected on that deal.

Rodger

Rodger · Post by **Rodger** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:07 am

Any of you guys catch this on the gspchronicle page that covered the Amt?

http://www.gspchronicle.com/2006%20NFT/running_agd.htm

Calcutta Purse - $5,335.00
Top Dogs

NGDC FC Echo's Little Bit of Clown - $450.00
MSK's Diamond S Hey Jude - $275.00
Miss Millenium von Greiwe - $25.00

Not sure what to make of a spread that has a $25 bid in the top 3. Must be a missing a zero?

Kudos to Arlene Walker to get these finer points covered. The GSP Chronicle and GSPCA have been doing a great job this year.

Rodger

lvrgsp · Post by **lvrgsp** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:16 am

Any word on the futurity and the braces that ran yesterday?

LVRGSP

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:19 am

13 braces ran yesterday.

TrueBlu Shorthairs · Post by **TrueBlu Shorthairs** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:27 pm

SO, those numbers are the amounts bid on those three dogs? And, they were the "top dogs"? I don't get it John. So, Chloe, Tarkus, Toby, etc. went for under $25? Couldn't have. Please explain numbers when you can.

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:37 pm

I wasn't commenting on the calcutta numbers, just the number of braces of Fut. run yesterday. Ask Rodger, he posted the article from the GSP Chronicle with the numbers in it. I don't know anything about it, I was not there.

But look at it this way. There were 96 dogs in that stake. Let's say 100 just to make the math simple. And a calcutta purse of 5335.00 . Divide that by 100 and you have an average bid of $53.35 per dog. With some doings going as high as $450.00 obviously some dogs went for a lot less than $53.35

They probably had some standouts that went for high bucks, and quite few other dogs that went for $25 or less. Maybe some that were not bought at all, or were bought by their owners for 5 bucks. About typical.

pttrrff · Post by **pttrrff** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:55 pm

Bids started at $25 and if nobody bid the club would buy that dog for $25.

Rodger · Post by **Rodger** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:31 pm

My guess was that "Miss Millenium von Greiwe" was supposed to be $250.

Rodger · Post by **Rodger** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:06 pm

Well John, I was just about to wish you luck today as I thought Spot would be going off this afternoon, but appears it'll be tomorrow. I hope you have dry conditions to run in. Looks like rain in the forcast the next few days.

Best of luck to you guys tomorrow. I hope Spot has a great run!

Rodger

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:47 pm

Thanks Rodger. I have gotten stuck here at work, so will not see him run. I am going down on Friday or Sat. to bring a horse to Waresk for work, and pick Spot up. So I am sitting here in the office wishing him luck also.

Good luck to Hud and Phil also.

If one of us doesn't get in the money, well then it must have been all politics.

Rodger · Post by **Rodger** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:11 pm

If one of us doesn't get in the money, well then it must have been all politics.

What else right ?

I'm off work on Fri and should be up there early Fri afternoon. Hope to see you there.

Rodger

lvrgsp · Post by **lvrgsp** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:38 pm

Any news on the futurity? Were they able to finish the braces this morning?

Thanks,

LVRGSP

Rodger · Post by **Rodger** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:55 pm

According to the GSPCA site. Fog delayed the start this morning. Supposed to finish up today though. AA Starts tomorow morning.

Updates and pictures can be found on the GSPCA site. A real nice job there doing this year.

http://www.gspca.org/

larue · Post by **larue** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:31 pm

I found this linkhttp://www.gspchronicle.com/2006%20NFT/ ... turity.htm

TrueBlu Shorthairs · Post by **TrueBlu Shorthairs** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:14 am

Dave's dog did a fine job. Ran day one, had 5 broke finds, near AA race, lots of birds at the beginning, and finished going away. Nice dog with great future.

lvrgsp · Post by **lvrgsp** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:46 am

Congrats to Dave on the win.

How did the second day play out I heard it was pretty windy and most of the dogs did not do well in that?

LVRGSP

TrueBlu Shorthairs · Post by **TrueBlu Shorthairs** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:15 pm

We left on Sunday so couldn't tell you. I heard there were some outstanding races put down by some dogs with no birds. I understand the pointer guys who judged got to see how good our breed has become in this arena. They said they were quite impressed with the young dogs.

Dave Quindt · Post by **Dave Quindt** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:30 pm

I understand the pointer guys who judged got to see how good our breed has become in this arena. They said they were quite impressed with the young dogs.

Blake,

Bill Burton is a Brittany guy and Dennis Pennington is a GSP guy, but I've heard the same about some of the dogs in the stake.

FWIW,
Dave

Hotpepper · Post by **Hotpepper** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:32 pm

Straight fgrom the judges mouth,

"Had 4 in the book and an additional 30 they could have put in the book. " During the running, only 2 were lost, one by Brath and the other by Chandler.

A few birdless dogs but almost all had multuple finds.

Changed the course and man was it the deal. Will just be better.

The one observatiuon that I would make was that we never had a dog make "the" allage move that would have won it. Have pictures of the course and will post it later.

Pepper

lvrgsp · Post by **lvrgsp** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:42 am

Jerry,
Hope your feeling well.

Anyone have any updates for the AA?

Thanks,
LVRGSP

Razor · Post by **Razor** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:56 pm

How is the AA going??

lvrgsp · Post by **lvrgsp** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:17 pm

Good friend called me from camp tonight, they have made it through 13 braces as of today. I believe he said they have 3 or 4 dogs they could use from day 1, and 1 dog from all of today, they had a rough day today, should finish up tomorrow. The temp is supposed to be mid 70's tomorrow.

From my undestanding John's Spot dog had a good race as well as Moon and Sonny.

Thats all I know

LVRGSP

snips · Post by **snips** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:38 pm

I was at a hunt test this weekend with Missy who is now doing the GSPCA website. She said there was someone there getting her info and pics of the Futurity but they left and she was having a hard time getting the current info. Sounds like she needed some help.

GsPJustin · Post by **GsPJustin** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:49 pm

John, Has Spot run yet? How did he do.

On a more off topic note, does anyone pay the 25 bucks for the gsp online thing, is it worth it?

LSKGSPs · Post by **LSKGSPs** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:50 am

Yes. Great publication.

wannabe · Post by **wannabe** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:45 am

Razor wrote:How is the AA going??

It looks like a National Gun Dog Champion won the All Age

2006 NATIONAL FIELD CHAMPIONSHIPS
RESULTS

NATIONAL ALL AGE CHAMPIONSHIP

33 NGDC/FC/AFC CC Papion
Breeder: Valerie & Joe Hanzel
Owner: Valerie & Joe Hanzel
Handler: Joe Hanzel

35 NFC/FC Showtime's Rollin' Thunder
Breeder: Bruce Krug
Owner: Todd Tuls
Handler: Jim West

17 Chisholm Creeks Cuttin Loose
Breeder: James Zimmerman
Owner: Mark Wasserman
Handler: Mark Wasserman

6 Uodibar's Shoot the Moon
Breeder: Dr. Frank Vicari
Owner: Helen Shelley
Handler: John Rabidou

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:31 am

The results are incorrectly posted on the GSPCA site. Moon and Rabidou took 3rd, Cutter took 4th. Otherwise correct. Pappion was the winner and Ricky (Showtimes Rolling Thunder) took RU.

Dirtysteve · Post by **Dirtysteve** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:50 am

Didn't Ricky also have a pup place in the futurity?

TAK · Post by **TAK** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:59 pm

Cool for Ricky! I have a dog out of him.

Razor · Post by **Razor** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:48 pm

When will it finally be over? What is left the OGD?

lvrgsp · Post by **lvrgsp** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:54 pm

Yes just the OGD is left if the weather holds out I would say it should be over by the weekend.

LVRGSP

bruin · Post by **bruin** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:37 am

Sorry probably a dumb question, but what is the numbers in front of there names?

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:06 am

If you are asking about the number that appears in front of each dog's name in the running order posted on www.gspca.org, that is just the order the dog's were drawn in. They hold a public drawing once all entries are in to determine the running order. So dog 1 and dog 2 would get braced together in Brace 1, dog 3 and dog 4 in Brace 2, and so on.

The odd numbered dog is called the "top dog" and the even numbered dog is the "bottom dog." The only significance of that is that the top dog is supposed to wear a red or orange collar, and the bottom dog a yellow collar, to tell them apart in the field.

Sometimes you will see a split brace. The brace number is the number in between the two dogs. If a dog is drawn in a brace and then goes into heat they will first try to drop the dog down to run in the last brace if the last brace is a bye dog. But if the last brace is not a bye dog, then they will split the brace into two braces, each of the two dogs running as a bye dog (by itself), with the female in heat running in the last of the braces for the day.

So if you had dog 37 and dog 38 drawn in Brace 19, and dog 37 is a female that goes into heat, they would run dog 38 as a bye dog in Brace 19, and then drop dog 37 (the female in heat) down to the last brace of the day and run that as a bye dog.

I mention that because it did happen this year, so if you were to go over the running order for some of the earlier stakes it might not all make sense to you without knowing the "in heat" rules.

lvrgsp · Post by **lvrgsp** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:35 pm

Nothing posted on the wb about the OGD yet. Anyone have any news?

LVRGSP

Hotpepper · Post by **Hotpepper** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:10 pm

The winners of Open Gun Dog

NGDC/Fc/AFC/NFC Dunfur's Joe Obvious - Hoke

2nd Free Flight Bocephus - Sale

3rd G Spot - Wasserman

4th Eldon

Pepper

larue · Post by **larue** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:35 pm

simon wins!
He is a great example of a true gundog,and a wild bird dog.
This win,along with honorable mentions last year in both open and am
nationals,and his akc gundog championship are proof of his trialing ability,at all levels.
Now if you really want to be impressed take him hunting.
I was right when I asked dan for a pup out of simon,he has proven it time and time again.
I can bet there was one happy owner,and a happy lady in washington who simon just is crazy about.
way to go dan,simon,and the rest of the dunfur team.

Hotpepper · Post by **Hotpepper** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:32 pm

4th

hadlocks leading lady
lynn hadlock owner
rich barbaer handler

pepper