There are biddables and boneheads both past and present.RockyDD wrote:They were trained for personal hunting only and as house pets. So it was obedience training and recall. No trial or judging. They once called these dogs the type that could be used right out of the box. Meat dogs for the serious hunter.
That's why I asked if you were all field trialers. I think that is a different world. The level of training and the requirements of the dogs are a lot higher. If you were training an EP like I had you needed more than a shotgun and whip.
Go to an AKC Junior Hunt Test. Most of the dogs you'll see are the usable right out of the box type. Plenty of that kind around these days.