Not many want male pups?

[larry]

Have GSP pups listed on the dog for sale board. All my females were sold very quickly but still have 2 males left. Looking at most of the other threads I see that almost everyone else also sold thier females but still have males available. Most times we have had litters this has been the trend, but once in awhile seems everyone is looking for males.

[mountaindogs]

Some people new to the breed seem to have this mindset that the females will be "sweeter" and the males more "active." I personally like the females simply because of the scent marking issue. All my girls are great, but me boys are "lovers" craving attention ALL the time unless there is a bird in front of them
Then there's the breeding issue... but many folks who want females can't really tell me why. One from my litter chose a female because the felt that their nuetered male dog would get along better with a female, not being so competative. It has been my experience that my girls are more concerned about status than my boys, though....

I don't know, but I sure could use two good homes for males. I'm afraid I will ultimately have to sell one of my keeper females, just to have enough time for everybody...
I had a waiting list for the girls.

[madonna]

In Germany we had the some problem too. people wanted only females. But, do not get nervous! In my litter a had 2 female and 10 boys. after a while i could have sold 20 male, second time i had 3 female and 8 boys- same procedure.
meanwhile people want boys again, because very often in oktober, november, when it is greatest hunting time, the female are at heat. i am a hunter, i need the dog. therefore i will ever take a male, the female only for breeding. Greetings

[bobman]

I prefer males

[Grange]

I grew up with mostly female dogs. We had one male golden retriever and he was as friendly and calm as any female chessie we ever had. When I got my first dog on my own closing in on 3 years ago I went for a female because I wanted a smaller lab. I don't regret it because she has been great and is on the smaller size.

My parents got a male brittany a year after I got my lab and he is great as well. After being around that little guy for as much as I have I've decided that my next dog will most likely be a male. So the fact that females are in greater demand works well for me.

[madonna]

Dear Grange! I always had female. Then, about 15 years ago, i had 2 female and 6 boys. and, it was my first litter. one pup did not look so nice. i kept him. later, when the pup was about three month old, i could have sold him for much more money than before. but in this short time, rocky had stolen my heart.
he became the best dog, i ever had. he became a V-- the highest qualifikation for good looking. and in hunting, you could only dream ...
three weeks before his death he hunted on three ill boars. we could shoot them all. he was such a loving fine dog. i miss him !!

[kninebirddog]

I always tell people it is the dog not the gender that make for what you have..
The funniest one I hear why people say they like females.."Females don't mark" BS they do to they just don't hike their legs Watch let two females out one will pee the other will pee over where the other has peed

your more dominant female will even mark where males have marked we have one that will mark the bottoms of tires

Females go into season for a few weeks they are nasty to have in the house..or you have them fixed so whats the difference when you have them altered

But same thing always seem to have the males left over

[Terry]

I don't know why but a lot of people have the opinion that females are sweeter and easier to train. I prefer males, I think they "bond" a little bit more tightly than females, I would be curious if others agree with me.

[Ryan29]

I have only had females. This will be my first female dog that I will be training to hunt. However, I plan on getting her spayed because I do not want puppies. She comes from a great line, but just don't want to have her running around in heat with all the other dogs in the neighborhood. Some neighbors never leash there dogs and just leave them outside to run the neighborhood and take number 2's on other peoples lawns. How inconsiderate! Anyway, back on task, I have bonded so well with both males and females, I just like how the females don't have to mark everything.

[Will]

I picked a male mostly because we already have an alpha female rottie in the house and I was scared of the possibility of a "turf war" between two females. She has taken well to my lil male GSP pup, though its evident she runs the house. I'd love to add a female shorthair next spring but just don't know how the "queen" would handle it.

It was true with the litter I bought from as well that all of the females were sold and there were males left over.

[mountaindogs]

Knine,
Yes that's true. Females still mark. And they will get ridiculus about scratch marking the ground, usually in the flower bed since they don't urinate so high usually.
I Do work with one brittany female that hikes her leg every time. She has a tom boy name name too "Doc"


In all the old fiction books, males were preferred. I've always wondered if that was just due to the abscence of spay/nueter....

[GsPJustin]

Seems to me that on average males will hunt faster, harder, and more intensely, but not better, At least in my experiences.Thats why I like them, but those 65lbs females make really good hand warmers and lap dogs! And they do pretty darn good in the field to. One of each is always the best IMO.

[madonna]

In my last litter i had two male and six female- and- all people wanted: male............

[bobman]

In the lines of shorthairs I've had the females are more agressive towards strangers and more likely to bark and challenge people. Mine don't bite anyone but their display will sometimes make people nervous and even if they are on my property I have never liked that little quirk.

My males same lines , heck same litter, ignore stangers in everysetting.

thats the only difference I have really noticed. Even the two Eps I adopted, one male and one female, the female will bark at people, the male ignores strangers.


I really don't need a watchdog

[madonna]

Dear Dogman! i have three DK, two female and one male. they live in house and garden with many neighbours, we have many people visiting our house every day. we had never any problems with barking, the dk are friendly to everyone, especially to childeren. i do not know, why you think in such way about dk.

[bobman]

Its Bobman not dogman

mine do,bark at strangers adults not kids, its probably because I lived in an isolated area where adult strangers were uncommon and you live in a place where many people are so your dogs are better socialized than mine in this respect.

The DK adult male I adopted is the only male I have that barks at stranger though and he was raised in New York in a City.

[winchestermodel50]

Dear Dogman, I probably prefer males in most situations. My wife can exhibit extreme and agitated Alpha behaviour. She can be quite irratable with both me and strangers. She barks orders all night and runs all day. I should have paid more attention when we were dating as she also has a very bad bite. I think the territory marking thing is stress more than anything else. Not near as much of it goes on when the women aren't around. They too leave no doubt about what is and is not their territory.

[Devils Creek]

Dear Dogman, I probably prefer males in most situations. My wife can exhibit extreme and agitated Alpha behaviour. She can be quite irratable with both me and strangers. She barks orders all night and runs all day. I should have paid more attention when we were dating as she also has a very bad bite. I think the territory marking thing is stress more than anything else. Not near as much of it goes on when the women aren't around. They too leave no doubt about what is and is not their territory.

More truth here than I care to think about....

[AHGSP]

Dear Dogman, I probably prefer males in most situations. My wife can exhibit extreme and agitated Alpha behaviour. She can be quite irratable with both me and strangers. She barks orders all night and runs all day. I should have paid more attention when we were dating as she also has a very bad bite. I think the territory marking thing is stress more than anything else. Not near as much of it goes on when the women aren't around. They too leave no doubt about what is and is not their territory.

PRICELESS!!!

[madonna]

Its Bobman not dogman

mine do,bark at strangers adults not kids, its probably because I lived in an isolated area where adult strangers were uncommon and you live in a place where many people are so your dogs are better socialized than mine in this respect.

The DK adult male I adopted is the only male I have that barks at stranger though and he was raised in New York in a City.

Dear, excuse! It is difficult for me, to write in english and have memory of so much words. therefore i confused the nick. But i think, you are totally right: it is no question of gender than of socialisation. Greetings!


This is my old bitch Birke KS vom Westermoor Derby1, Solms 1, VGP1, VSWP2, Btr, HN; VBR, IKP Internationale Kurzhaarprüfung 1, Dr. Kleemann-Zuchtausleseprüfung. FW: V and her daughter Felicitas from Xander KS vom Donaueck.

greetings

[bobman]

Emma those are very nice looking dogs,



the rest of you ,

[sharptailhunter]

Larry, I agree. We had 8 males and 4 females. The females were spoken for very quickly. I also noticed that ALL of the people who called from newspaper ads wanted females. I noticed that most of the trialers/hunters just wanted whatever as long as it exhibited thier personality criteria.

Emma, those are some good looking dogs, definitely carbon-copies.

[Theresa]

I wonder if its just me. Seems to me that folks want females not because they have a sweeter temperament, but that when I screen the party and ask, I find they also "happen" to have an intact male at home. Granted, the breed I have most recently had to sell pups on was my rat terrier - but seems to me that folks think if they paid a pretty price for a nice dog that they could 'recoup' that 'investment' by having a litter of their own.

[gary]

TOP 10 Producer of FC pups with 60% + of best genes past on by mother
Make a lot of sence picking a female.
One litter of 5 had 4 female Weim pups and 1 male.
The females were gone @ $1200.before birth and the male is still for sale @700.

[Theresa]

Hey Gary!

I always understood that 60+ of BEHAVIORAL traits were passed on by the dams - this because they raise the litter and their behavior is imprinted on the pups.

I always understood it to be that each parent contributes 50% of the genes on each side.

I do hear you - if you have an awesome breeding there IS gold in them bitches and the nice boys always seem to be a dime a dozen!

[Yawallac]

The females were gone @ $1200.before birth and the male is still for sale @700.

Just raise the price of the male to $1200 and he'll sell too!

[cravenkennellabs]

I agree with you Terry. I've had nothing but male dogs. People say that females are sweeter, and that if you don't nueter your male they'll always be somewhat aggressive..whatever! I have an 8yr. old Lab that is the sweetest dog I know. You can step on his tail or foot and he just looks up at you like'Uh, could you please move, you just stepped on me' and then goes right back to followin me around. Females are sweet, but like you said males do seem to bond more.

[snips]

True for the most part, but strange as it is....Our 2 litters this summer has males mostly spoken for. Still have females to sell. good excuse to keep another one)... :roll:

[Don]

Other than the incovience of coming into heat, I only find two difference's in males and females. Males are usually bigger and I find them more agressive in the field. I think Teresa mentioned that many people buy a female thinking they can get back their money. I also think she's right. And the lady from Germany said that females are only good for breeding. I don't find that true at all. My four best dog's ever, two males and two females. But the males were more agressive in the field. I mean they didn't go hunting, they attacked the field. Both the females had a lot of range and speed but it was as if they knew if they just be patient, they were going to find bird's. They may have been right. One was the bird findingist dog I ever saw.

[ezzy333]

If you believe no one wants males just have a littler of all females and you will change your mind.

Ezzy

[Windyhills]

If you believe no one wants males just have a littler of all females and you will change your mind.

Ezzy

We ended up with one of the two males we had out of our recent litter. With twice as many gals to pick from, we thought the one pup we intended to keep at the end would be a female.

He's been a real well adjusted, laid back pup right from the start. Pretty markings, we think. He's coming around fine now but at least at first did not have the drive and energy that all of the other pups had. Kind of stood back and watched the other pups go at it much of the time. Several of the pup buyers described their desires for a dog that sounded exactly like him, but I couldn't convince them to get their mind off of a female.

[mountaindogs]

I have a male now who loves his birds but is a GREAT pet also. He is the best in the whole litter with the children and calm in the house, doesn't try to eat the cat, just the ideal dog for 4 or 5 folks who contacted me, who were set on a female. I didn't have any available at the time so sent them on, but they all stated that they wanted a pet/hunting companion and were fine with limited registration, so it wasn't the breeding thing....

But it's fine. He is an easy keeper since he is so good with the family. We will just keep on working with him and loving him. So sweet. Guess I am going to have to name these boys eventually