My lab had a litter of 14 yesterday. One was stillborn, but we have
13 alive and kicking. This is my first large litter. Right now I am rotating
the pups out every hour and giving my girl a 30 minute repreive. The vet says if the pups seem to be nursing just keep rotating, if not may need to supplement, but try not to.
So, all you familiar with this, please give me some advise. I can handle 5, 6, even 8- but wow 13.
Large Litter (14) Need Advice
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kninebirddog
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As long as the pups are nursing you should be fine...keep a close eye
Biggest time is supplement Momma
Give her the supplements and be sure she is drinking plenty of water
I about twice a day would add about 1/4 cup swanson chicken broth to 2 cups water the more fluids she has in her sytem the more milk she will be able to make
I would also add some 1st stage infant powdered formula I use the Parents choice with DHA and DRA from wally world milk based to her dry food..for the added mineral and such she will need or even ask your vet what he would reccomend or show him the label I did that withmy vet ...he thought it was a great idea do the same for my pups
Biggest time is supplement Momma
Give her the supplements and be sure she is drinking plenty of water
I about twice a day would add about 1/4 cup swanson chicken broth to 2 cups water the more fluids she has in her sytem the more milk she will be able to make
I would also add some 1st stage infant powdered formula I use the Parents choice with DHA and DRA from wally world milk based to her dry food..for the added mineral and such she will need or even ask your vet what he would reccomend or show him the label I did that withmy vet ...he thought it was a great idea do the same for my pups
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kninebirddog
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Oh PS get the low sodium...if possible
many of the swanson chicken broth comes in cartons..it also comes i big cans
many of the swanson chicken broth comes in cartons..it also comes i big cans
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
"When I hear somebody talk about a horse or cow being stupid, I figure its a sure sign that the animal has outfoxed them." Tom Dorrance
If you feel like you are banging your head against the wall, try using the door.
"When I hear somebody talk about a horse or cow being stupid, I figure its a sure sign that the animal has outfoxed them." Tom Dorrance
If you feel like you are banging your head against the wall, try using the door.
CongRATS on your new litter!
You may want to supplement calcuim lactate 48 hours after birth - this to prevent eclampsia (some will supplement calcuim with cottage cheese, but IMHO that doesn't give you nearly enough calcium for the buck, and seems mostly to cause bowel upset.) You also may want to consider NutriSTAT for extra calories, or Satin Balls. I made up a batch of the satin balls for my girly when she had a large litter - they don't seem to cause any bowel disruption and they really do give a boost. Pups at this age do more sleeping than anything else; you may want to switch off to every 4 hours rotation of half the litter rather than every hour; this will allow you to get some sleep!
(Edit to add Satin Ball recipie)
5 pounds ground meat
5 cups Total whole grain cereal
5 cups oats (slow cooking type)
2½ cups raw wheat germ
¾ cup oil
¾ cup molasses
6 egg yolks
5 packets gelatin
2 ½ tablespoons Solid Gold Seameal supplement
Mix up, form balls, freeze, feed as treats or food supplement.
(Edit to add Satin Ball recipie)
5 pounds ground meat
5 cups Total whole grain cereal
5 cups oats (slow cooking type)
2½ cups raw wheat germ
¾ cup oil
¾ cup molasses
6 egg yolks
5 packets gelatin
2 ½ tablespoons Solid Gold Seameal supplement
Mix up, form balls, freeze, feed as treats or food supplement.
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lowcountrylab
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Ground meat that is uncooked is just as dangerous for your dog as it is for you.
Ezzy
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http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=207
It's not how many breaths you have taken but how many times it has been taken away!
Has anyone noticed common sense isn't very common anymore.
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=207
It's not how many breaths you have taken but how many times it has been taken away!
Has anyone noticed common sense isn't very common anymore.
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kninebirddog
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Ezzy..mark this day 
I agree 100+ percent with you
I agree 100+ percent with you"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
"When I hear somebody talk about a horse or cow being stupid, I figure its a sure sign that the animal has outfoxed them." Tom Dorrance
If you feel like you are banging your head against the wall, try using the door.
"When I hear somebody talk about a horse or cow being stupid, I figure its a sure sign that the animal has outfoxed them." Tom Dorrance
If you feel like you are banging your head against the wall, try using the door.
Tra-la lah
May 31, 2007
Ezzy
May 31, 2007
Ezzy
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=144
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=207
It's not how many breaths you have taken but how many times it has been taken away!
Has anyone noticed common sense isn't very common anymore.
http://www.perfectpedigrees.com/4genview.php?id=207
It's not how many breaths you have taken but how many times it has been taken away!
Has anyone noticed common sense isn't very common anymore.
To each their own on this one....
I have had no problems feeding raw meaty bones, and also raw hamburger - from quality sources. I have had a problem feeding cheap marrow bones from a low quality source (in my case Holiday Plus foods), but I have never had a problem feeding human grade beef rib bones and hamburger raw to my dogs.
I respect others who say DON'T DO IT; I respect your experience and advice even if it differs from my own.
I have also heard of the Satin Balls being prepared with cooked ground beef, but I have always used it raw.
I respect others who say DON'T DO IT; I respect your experience and advice even if it differs from my own.
I have also heard of the Satin Balls being prepared with cooked ground beef, but I have always used it raw.
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lowcountrylab
Oops, did not mean to start a debate. I thought the meat was cooked.
Well, I did give broth with water (licked up every bit) and some of the
puppy formula to momma in some of her food. She did well with it.
I weighed all the pups and everyone is up anywhere from 1-3 oz over day before. Good sign right?
I checked her after the second grouped nursed and she still had milk so I think that is good too.
Well, I did give broth with water (licked up every bit) and some of the
puppy formula to momma in some of her food. She did well with it.
I weighed all the pups and everyone is up anywhere from 1-3 oz over day before. Good sign right?
I checked her after the second grouped nursed and she still had milk so I think that is good too.
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kninebirddog
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Sounds like they are doing good
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
"When I hear somebody talk about a horse or cow being stupid, I figure its a sure sign that the animal has outfoxed them." Tom Dorrance
If you feel like you are banging your head against the wall, try using the door.
"When I hear somebody talk about a horse or cow being stupid, I figure its a sure sign that the animal has outfoxed them." Tom Dorrance
If you feel like you are banging your head against the wall, try using the door.
Agree with Ezzy and K9 about raw meat. sure got me an ear full on another site a year or so ago. I'v never had a litter that large but several day's befor I expected pup's, I'd switch my dog's over to puppy food. By the time the pup's got here , the mother's were on straight puppy food. Don't really know if it hurt or helped or made no difference. Don't remember for sure where the idea came from either.
Puppy food has extra stuff in it to help puppy's grow. I'm not big on home made chow's but then I know a lot of people that use them without trouble.
Puppy food has extra stuff in it to help puppy's grow. I'm not big on home made chow's but then I know a lot of people that use them without trouble.
Never set your dog up to fail - Delmar smith
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Some people think to much like people and not enough like dogs!
The greatest room in the world is the room for improvement - William F. Brown
Some people think to much like people and not enough like dogs!
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lowcountrylab