Your kennels.
- Stoneface
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Your kennels.
Was reading Ayres question on kennels and thought I'd post a request for pictures of you kennel. Anything from a fenced yard to a commercial boarding facility.
If you've got a kennel, post a picture. If you don't know how, then send it to me at strivek9@yahoo.com. If you don't have a picture? Describe your setup.
Rowdy
If you've got a kennel, post a picture. If you don't know how, then send it to me at strivek9@yahoo.com. If you don't have a picture? Describe your setup.
Rowdy
This is actually a good idea. I wish more folks would have pictures of their kennels on their websites. Of course, that probably has little bearing on the purpose of their websites - most being commercial in nature as advertisements for litters and news updates - but it sure would help out folks like me who are trying to squeak out the best design features for a near-future project.
- Steven
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Justus James Ayres SH CGC - Justus - Rest in Peace, buddy.
Wind River's JK Clara Belle - Belle
Wind River's JK Black Tie Affair - Tux
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Justus James Ayres SH CGC - Justus - Rest in Peace, buddy.
Wind River's JK Clara Belle - Belle
Wind River's JK Black Tie Affair - Tux
Kennel
I started out by pouring a 16x36 foot slab with a 3" drop towards the drain and installed a gutter system. Then had a masonry company come in and put up cement block walls 3 blocks high creating six 6x12 runs. On top of the concrete blocks I put 2x8's to cap off the cement blocks and to support the 4x4's that supported the tin roof. I then ran hog panel in between the runs that sat on the 2x8's and attatched to the 4x4's for support. We did all the work except for the block walls (didn't want to even try and tackle that. ) A friend had some extra 6 foot wide kennel doors so I used these for the entrance gates. I used the panels I had left over from my free standing kennels and attached a excersice/play pen to the kennel that I can put dogs in when cleaning out runs. To finish it off I surrounded the kennel in river rock. In the end I was happy with the results. The only thing I would change in a new setup would be to frame up and pour some sort of concrete gutter system instead of buying the pvc stuff. Besides the masonry work for the block walls, the pvc was the most expensive part of the kennel.
i had a bunch of pics but i deleted them a few months ago, oh well. but here is a description until I take new pics (right now snow is covering it so)
Poured a 6x12 slab. This was tough for me and my friend because we had to work quick. We worked it so that there was a slope to one side. I do not recall the exact plans of the concrete work but have it in a file if anyone is that interested.
Next I plopped a 5x10 Priefert Premiere kennel kit http://www.priefert.com/dynamic/product ... NO=KK65101 I really like the design of these over chain link. Found nothing wrong with it so far and no rust, etc… It was pricey for a 5x10 but its worth the money. I got it at a local feed store who normally do not stock this brand. I guess a customer ordered one and needed it drop shipped to a store. I guess they only ship by 18wheeler. The customer backed out and they got stuck with it.
I had my friends help me build a roof over the kennel. We used corrouated metal as the roof. Built a “frame” that took a few weeks. My friend builds decks/roofs and stuff so he knew how to design/build it. Its actually a very cool design and I owe him as he didn’t want me to pay him. I just went to Home Depot and bought all the wood and beams. The best I can describe it is its almost like a “carport” but a lot smaller. The wood frame is sloped so when the corrougated metal got nailed to the frame it is sloped to one side so that rain/snow can easily fall off.
At first I put in an Indigo Igloo. After 3 months the thing was chewed to bits. My lab would rather chew on her igloo than all the toys I put in there.
So I finally just invested in the Dog Den 2 http://www.k-9kondo.com/dogdenregular.html and problem solved with the chewing. Although it took her a while before she understood how to “use it”. She seemed scared of it at first!!! I kept having to give her the command kennel to force her in. After a few times of that she now goes in there no prob. It’s a funny design and people thought it was some type of freezer but its very well built and designed. I am now considering the heater as its pretty cold out there. But then again she is so use to the freezing cold I don’t think its needed. She is only out there during daytime hours.
The funny thing is she only p’s in the kennel so I usually just hose it down and the water all flows one direction. She never poo’s in there which is funny. I use a heavy duty padlock to lock the door. She seems to like it as long as I throw in a full KONG before I leave for work!
Poured a 6x12 slab. This was tough for me and my friend because we had to work quick. We worked it so that there was a slope to one side. I do not recall the exact plans of the concrete work but have it in a file if anyone is that interested.
Next I plopped a 5x10 Priefert Premiere kennel kit http://www.priefert.com/dynamic/product ... NO=KK65101 I really like the design of these over chain link. Found nothing wrong with it so far and no rust, etc… It was pricey for a 5x10 but its worth the money. I got it at a local feed store who normally do not stock this brand. I guess a customer ordered one and needed it drop shipped to a store. I guess they only ship by 18wheeler. The customer backed out and they got stuck with it.
I had my friends help me build a roof over the kennel. We used corrouated metal as the roof. Built a “frame” that took a few weeks. My friend builds decks/roofs and stuff so he knew how to design/build it. Its actually a very cool design and I owe him as he didn’t want me to pay him. I just went to Home Depot and bought all the wood and beams. The best I can describe it is its almost like a “carport” but a lot smaller. The wood frame is sloped so when the corrougated metal got nailed to the frame it is sloped to one side so that rain/snow can easily fall off.
At first I put in an Indigo Igloo. After 3 months the thing was chewed to bits. My lab would rather chew on her igloo than all the toys I put in there.
So I finally just invested in the Dog Den 2 http://www.k-9kondo.com/dogdenregular.html and problem solved with the chewing. Although it took her a while before she understood how to “use it”. She seemed scared of it at first!!! I kept having to give her the command kennel to force her in. After a few times of that she now goes in there no prob. It’s a funny design and people thought it was some type of freezer but its very well built and designed. I am now considering the heater as its pretty cold out there. But then again she is so use to the freezing cold I don’t think its needed. She is only out there during daytime hours.
The funny thing is she only p’s in the kennel so I usually just hose it down and the water all flows one direction. She never poo’s in there which is funny. I use a heavy duty padlock to lock the door. She seems to like it as long as I throw in a full KONG before I leave for work!
- KY Grouse Hunter
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Well, I went the hillbilly route on this one. I built a 12x12 deck from rough cut lumber (got all the lumber for $40 so I had to get it) then urethaned the whole thing. Next, I set the pen on top and put those little shag tails in it. I will post pictures as soon as possible.
DISCLAIMER: This kennel design is a cheap, yes I know,but yet it is an efficient way to harbor and contain mangy, bird locating K-9's.
DISCLAIMER: This kennel design is a cheap, yes I know,but yet it is an efficient way to harbor and contain mangy, bird locating K-9's.
Sally's Branch Duke
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Before we moved we had a kennel/run but sold it. Anyway here was what we had. we bought a 10x10x6 ft. kennel at home depot made of chainlink fence. For the florring we got 4 cement blocks and built a frame on them with 2x4s then we filled in the rectangular frame with 2x4 with about 1/2in slits in between each board. that way we could spray off and "leftovers". then we just hoisted the kennel up on the base and it was done.
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two of my buds use 24x24 pavers they get at lowes as a base, it works pretty good except there are cracks that need to be filled in every once in a while. but they say its a lot cheaper than pouring concrete. just that you have to dig up the ground and level it yourself with a tamper. also you need lanscaping timbers as your form to keep the pavers in tight. re-bar goes right through the timbers into the ground as to stake the timbers in.
i'm curious about the wooden deck though. wouldn't it get messy?
i'm curious about the wooden deck though. wouldn't it get messy?
TheShadow wrote:two of my buds use 24x24 pavers they get at lowes as a base, it works pretty good except there are cracks that need to be filled in every once in a while. but they say its a lot cheaper than pouring concrete. just that you have to dig up the ground and level it yourself with a tamper. also you need lanscaping timbers as your form to keep the pavers in tight. re-bar goes right through the timbers into the ground as to stake the timbers in.
i'm curious about the wooden deck though. wouldn't it get messy?
I'm not doubting one bit that concrete may be more expensive than the pavers in some areas, it probably differs in different places. When I poured my single kennel run two years ago it cost me $64 for the yard of concrete. (I actually didn't need a full yard but that's the minumum they will haul) If you have someone else do the work it probably cost quite a bit more. My run pad was 6x11 for a 5x10 kennel.
- KY Grouse Hunter
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Since I put urethane on the deck, it has been fine.TheShadow wrote:two of my buds use 24x24 pavers they get at lowes as a base, it works pretty good except there are cracks that need to be filled in every once in a while. but they say its a lot cheaper than pouring concrete. just that you have to dig up the ground and level it yourself with a tamper. also you need lanscaping timbers as your form to keep the pavers in tight. re-bar goes right through the timbers into the ground as to stake the timbers in.
i'm curious about the wooden deck though. wouldn't it get messy?
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- Stoneface
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Here's a site with several facility pictures and tons of ideas http://lowchensaustralia.com/diy/kennelconstruction.htm
This may especially help you Ayres.
Rowdy
This may especially help you Ayres.
Rowdy
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Linky no worky!StoneFace wrote:Here's a site with tons of facilities and ideas. http://us.f363.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowFo ... &box=Inbox
This may help you alot on your new kennel Ayres.
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- Stoneface
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I'll be looking for those pics
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- highcotton
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I built my first kennel in 1978. The concrete slab was 12' x 72' and posts were 4"x4" pressure treated pine. I used a heavy tied wire and connected it to the posts with galvanized fencing staples. A portion of each run was covered with a wood framed, galinized roof that ran the full 72' length. The roof system also covered a 4' walkway out side the kennel slab to provide a dry area me while feeding, etc. The kennel was in a very rural area so my waste disposal was not critical. I poured a trough the full length of the kennel and hosed everything into a huge pit (appx 20' x20' and 15' deep) that had been filled with large crushed limestone. I kept a wood cover over the pit access hole and threw a bag of lyme in periodically to help control odor.
My dog houses were wood and elevated to force the dog to do a lot of jumping for exercise. The houses were placed facing the back of the kennel run door. When washing down I could swing the kennel door against the dog house door, snap the door in place covering the opening to the dogs house and the dog was in jail until I cleaned his run.
My next kennel project (also a 12 run unit) was built in the late 90's and was basically a chainlink version of the first kennel with some improvements. Most of the improvements were associated with air flow.
I used barrels for houses in this kennel and elevated them for excercise. I made my dry area larger in this unit to accomidate my ff table and some storage space. The area is well lighted for working at night. The shed roof is completely open on all four sides to get maximum air flow.
My latest kennel project that is almost finished is a 4 run unit I built for my back yard in the sub division where I live. I can keep four dogs here at home and work them after work on days when I can't get out to the farm. I used the prifert panels including tops and set them up on a concrete slab with the same trough system and wash everything into the city sewer system. A 4" sewer pvc pipe sloped at 1/8" per foot meets city code for connecting to their public gravity line located about 100' from my kennel.
Again I included a dry area outside the kennel for my convinence and everything is well lighted for night work on the table. I use 90% shade cloth during the hot months. (March thru October here in ALabama)
My dog houses were wood and elevated to force the dog to do a lot of jumping for exercise. The houses were placed facing the back of the kennel run door. When washing down I could swing the kennel door against the dog house door, snap the door in place covering the opening to the dogs house and the dog was in jail until I cleaned his run.
My next kennel project (also a 12 run unit) was built in the late 90's and was basically a chainlink version of the first kennel with some improvements. Most of the improvements were associated with air flow.
I used barrels for houses in this kennel and elevated them for excercise. I made my dry area larger in this unit to accomidate my ff table and some storage space. The area is well lighted for working at night. The shed roof is completely open on all four sides to get maximum air flow.
My latest kennel project that is almost finished is a 4 run unit I built for my back yard in the sub division where I live. I can keep four dogs here at home and work them after work on days when I can't get out to the farm. I used the prifert panels including tops and set them up on a concrete slab with the same trough system and wash everything into the city sewer system. A 4" sewer pvc pipe sloped at 1/8" per foot meets city code for connecting to their public gravity line located about 100' from my kennel.
Again I included a dry area outside the kennel for my convinence and everything is well lighted for night work on the table. I use 90% shade cloth during the hot months. (March thru October here in ALabama)
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Thanks for the great descriptions and pictures Cotton.
Rowdy
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This is our kennel set-up. It's worked out great. The fenced in area is designed as a back-up enclosure in the event the dog(s) should escape the kennel. The gravel is for keeping their feet in "hunting condition" year round. They spend a lot of time free running in this enclosure. The kennel panels are Preifert and the doors are K9Kondo.
Then inside our shop..we have the dog houses built in. The shop temperature is maintained at 50 degrees through the Winter. As you can see...we also have either grass hay or straw...which ever is available.
The dogs enter into a chamber then go through an opening to the sleeping area.
As I said..this has worked well for us. Looking forward to seeing other set-ups.
Rick
Then inside our shop..we have the dog houses built in. The shop temperature is maintained at 50 degrees through the Winter. As you can see...we also have either grass hay or straw...which ever is available.
The dogs enter into a chamber then go through an opening to the sleeping area.
As I said..this has worked well for us. Looking forward to seeing other set-ups.
Rick
Fowlplay, that is almost exactly what I built for inside enclosures. Your outside is nicer since I didn't have mine covered but rather exposed to the sunlight. I did have grape vines growing over it in the summer and I built gallatin doors tht were seldom shut on the east facing doors. The dogs would often lay in the first entrance and look out. I double walled the sleeping enclosure and filled the space with wood shavings. Kept them warm I think with temps hitting -30 a cople of times.
Ezzy
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Has anyone noticed common sense isn't very common anymore.
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It's not how many breaths you have taken but how many times it has been taken away!
Has anyone noticed common sense isn't very common anymore.
I had a hard time making the decision to cover the kennel! As you know..direct sunlight kills more bacteria than most chemicals so it is a great sanitizer all by it's self! With the weather of Fall and Winter..the dogs were forced to stay inside a lot, so I covered to give them more of an option. Still waiting for them to thank me!ezzy333 wrote:Fowlplay, that is almost exactly what I built for inside enclosures. I didn't have mine covered but rather exposed to the sunlight.
Ezzy
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