Dual Champions

Post by **ezzy333** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:43 am

This week saw the 500th Brittany Dual Champion crowned. DC Country Road's Rough Rider qualified for the honor. Not only a great field dog but a BISS winner as well. This is what breeding should be all about. A dog that meets the Standard of Perfection and also compete and win in the trials along with being a friend and companion at home and in the field.

Ezzy

SwitchGrassWPG · Post by **SwitchGrassWPG** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:42 pm

Its unfortunate so many of the Sporting breeds have two distinct lines...one show, one field. If you follow the addage that "form follows function" a dog with proper conformation will have an easier time in the field and shouldn't have as many muscle/skeletal issues.

My girl is an AKC Bench Champion and Junior Hunter.

Post by **ezzy333** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:30 pm

The 501st was crowned today.No, 500 didnt last long. I will have to check the full name but he won at GSP club today

Ezzy

Post by **pear** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:39 pm

My girl is an AKC Bench Champion and Junior Hunter.

Define Bench Champion, I hear it but never knew just what it meant. Thanks, "pear"

Mary · Post by **Mary** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:17 pm

number 501 is Brittwoods Dirty Harry owned by Lu Ann Fullwood and handled by Jim Heckert. He won the OGD at Mason Dixon GSP in Petersburg Del.
Mary

Post by **Ayres** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:20 pm

I wondered that too, pear. Here's what the AKC has to say:

CCH Bench Show Champion:
Dogs must have a total of a 100 pts under two different judges and 1 Best In Show win with competition.

It seems that a Bench Show Champion requires a lot more than the CH title, but keep in mind that for a CH title the dog must win two majors. A CCH dog could pick up points all along the way, winning one BIS but not having 2 majors, and complete the title. (Very unlikely that would happen though, but I just don't see the majors requirement on the CCH title).

Post by **ezzy333** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:50 pm

I think you will find that the term Bench Champion is used to describe a show champion. The UK actually did have the dogs on a bench for the judge to evaluate and the AKC had bench shows where the dogs had to be displayed in their crates normally on a bench till the show was completed. The Chicago International was the last of the big Benched shows. As far as I know they are a thing of the past.

I don't know where the CCh comes from but if you are relating to the Canadain Champions I think the point schedule is way off. I have to check it again but I think you will find the requirements are very close to the AKC requirements

I shouldn't be posting this without researching it first so I know what I'm talking about so I will close and check it out later.

Ezzy

rkalgren · Post by **rkalgren** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:40 pm

Westminster is a benched show. One of a few that are left.

Wagonmaster · Post by **Wagonmaster** » Fri May 05, 2006 10:27 pm

no ez, the AKC does have on their website, a CCH abbreviation that stands for Bench Champion, and the requirements are 100 points as was stated. now, they have about 100 title abbreviations, most of which i am totally unfamiliar with, having to due with coursing dogs, herding dogs, hounds, etc. so don't really know what this is. but it is there, and it is an American title.

Post by **ezzy333** » Fri May 05, 2006 11:01 pm

I've never heard of it either. And I can't keep up with all of the titles anymore.

Ezzy

Maverick · Post by **Maverick** » Sat May 06, 2006 8:06 am

It is great to see that the brittany is continueing to complete Dual Champions.
It seems to be the one of the few groups of people that feel it important to keep confirmation and field important in its breed. It is in fact written into the standard of the American Brittany Club.
I know that their are distinc differences in many field and show dogs with in the same breed.

That said there are several other breeds out their doing their part to not let a split happen, shorthairs, wirehairs ect.
It is great to see a complete package still available out there.

Mav.....

phermes1 · Post by **phermes1** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:28 pm

I've heard the term Bench champion used to describe a CH many times - I didn't realize it was actually a different accomplishment until just now.

The Brittanys do a lot of things right, and you can't help but be impressed with the breed. Personally, I'd rather see their FC have a retrieving requirement, but either way, 500 DC's is extremely impressive.

In a belated brag as I've just joined this forum, I was lucky enough to handle my vizsla Shooter to his DC in December, 1 of 2 vizslas in 2005 to earn the title. He's the first dog we've trained and competed and we've had a lot of fun doing it!

Brittguy · Post by **Brittguy** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:41 am

How do they win 100 pts? The CH's do not compete in the classes where they award pts.

Buckeye_V · Post by **Buckeye_V** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:03 pm

While I am not a fan of the conformation area, I have noticed since my involvement in the sport that a lot of Vizsla people attempt to have the dual-quality dogs. Dual champs is a different story, although it runs in my dogs lines.

phermes1 · Post by **phermes1** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:38 pm

I think the vizsla is better off than a lot of other breeds. While a lot of dogs from show lines wouldn't know a quail from a hole in the ground, and many dogs from field lines look like they've been beaten by the ugly stick, overall they actually look like the same breed, which can't be said for some other breeds.

Regarding bench champion, I'm not sure how points are calculated for that. I know AKC rankings are based on dogs defeated, which is different than the point scale used to award CH points. Perhaps a dog gets 1 point for every dog defeated at a BENCH show. Defeat 100 dogs, get 100 points.

Here's the definition off the AKC website for bench champion. Apparently the dog also requires at least one Best In Show.

CCH Bench Show Champion:
Dogs must have a total of a 100 pts under two different judges and 1 Best In Show win with competition.