Pics from 3 Hunts over Xmas

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Pics from 3 Hunts over Xmas

Post by Dave C » Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:25 am

Been out 3 times over Xmas, twice with the Syndicate Lads and a walk about with my son for a few hours.
Here are a few pics

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Is hard going through there i can tell you
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The forbidden land (Grouse Moor)
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Was dark when we got back but Fern had her head lights on :lol: .
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Had some cracking days and some good dog work.
The best one was hunting a shot bird in the woods, dogs were struggleing to find it as it was a runner, fern started marking a rabbit hole well away from where the bird droped (thought i had been using her too much ferreting) but i was proud as punch when i pulled out the dead pheasant from the Rabbit hole :D .

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Re: Pics from 3 Hunts over Xmas

Post by bwjohn » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:45 am

looks like beautiful country.

I am clueless about how hunting works there, so forgive me if I ask a simple question. But how does it work there? Do you have public land that you can hunt or do you have to pay for everything? Game preserves etc.

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Re: Pics from 3 Hunts over Xmas

Post by SHORTFAT » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:23 am

Nice pics!.. :D I'm with Brandon... Tell us more! My daughter spent some time in Ireland and England, and my wife and I would love to come there in a few years!.. Sure looks like you had a good time!
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Re: Pics from 3 Hunts over Xmas

Post by Chukar12 » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:15 am

Great pics Dave...I like the others would like to hear the specifics of your hunting opportunities

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Re: Pics from 3 Hunts over Xmas

Post by Dave C » Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:32 pm

Well here goes guys, there is no public land at all to hunt on, so you either have to ask around for some permission on farms or pay a small fortune for a days shooting on a Shooting estate.
There is two main types of Hunting / Shooting in the UK, Driven shooting and Rough Shooting.

Driven Shooting is where you pay on average £1,000.00 a day (but can be as high as £20,000.00 a day on a Grouse moor) on a posh Shooting estate, you stand on a peg and the beaters will put hundreds of birds over you until you have shot the amount you have paid for (normally about 100 - 250) you eat and drink the very best of foods and wines and are driven around in Range Rovers, this type of Shooting is not for me (although i have worked my dogs in the beating line and used her for finding and picking the pheasants, and been paid well for it) i feel that if you want to shoot at so many birds you may as well go to a clay ground, i also would never pay that kind of money even if i had it, although they are good for the local villagers as they get work in the beating line, local Pubs, hotels and restaurants do very well from the guests.

Rough Shooting as we call it is just the same as how you guys hunt, this is how i have always hunted, 3 of us with various bits of permission on local farms just working the dogs through the cover and shooting what comes out, i also Rough Shoot / hunt vermin on one of the local Shooting estates which i do out of the game season, this keeps my dogs in work all year round.

This season is the first time i have paid for my hunting (other than giving the farmers a few bottles of whiskey at xmas), i have joined a Syndicate, which is mainly 12 guys that have all clubbed together and hired a nice piece of land from a Forest owner who dose nothing with it until logging time, this works well for us as we have trees at varying ages which holds the Pheasants well, we also put out food for them all winter which holds them on our land, the syndicate is non profit as we all own equal shares so all the money goes to pay the rent of the land, the birds feed ect, we also put in work days during the summer, clearing cover out of some woods and keeping sheep of our feed hoppers.
We hunt every other week during the season and normally have about 8 - 10 guys out so we walk in a line working what dogs we have, shooting and retrieving the game as we go, if we have upto 16 guys out (as some will bring friends) we might split into 2 teams, 1 team working the dogs through a very thick wood while the second team waits at the end for the birds, after the wood has been worked all birds are retrieved then the teams swap over and move to another wood.
We average about 14 Pheasant a few Woodcock and Duck on normal days hunting, we will never set any records but we have some excellent sport.

I Hope without boring you this has given you a brief idea of the hunting in the UK or how average lads do it anyways.

ATB
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Post by bluestemkennels » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:56 pm

Thanks for the succinct description. It's always intersting to hear how others approach the sport.

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Post by SHORTFAT » Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:10 pm

Thank you Dave! Outstanding! Love to hear about different styles and methods of hunting! :D Very Cool... 8) What time of year is your bird season? And how long does it last? What kind of shooting can you do when you are "vermin" hunting for an Estate? Very interesting stuff!
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Re: Pics from 3 Hunts over Xmas

Post by Dave C » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:01 am

No Problem mate.

Grouse starts August, Partridge and Wildfowl September and Pheasant October.
Most finish Feb 1st.

The Vermin i hunt out of season (and during the season if we are over run)is on the various farms which i do because they allow me to hunt game in season, i also hunt vermin on the shooting estate because it is excellent land for training the dogs and the scenery is just stunning, this keeps the estate gamekeepers happy as it saves them a job because on the Grouse moors all vermin needs tobe kept at a minimun for the grouse to breed sucessfully.

The Vermin is mainly Rabbits, Crows, Pigeons ect, and then sometimes there is preditors to take care of like Foxes, Stoats and mink.
I normally just hunt them up with the dog and shoot them as i do with Pheasants, but if they begin to take over i will use Hides and decoys for the Pigeons and Crows, Ferrets to flush the Rabbits from there sets and Traps on the Preditors.

As well as fern i quite oftern take along my Lakeland Terrier and Lurcher Dog who is a Saluki/greyhound X Collie/Greyhound.
I hunt them all as a pack (which we call bushing) but only on the farms as shooting estate do not allow Lurchers on because they have alot of Hares on the land.
The Labs, spaniels and Terriers flush the vermin from cover and the Lurcher courses and catches them, we catch alot of ground vermin this way (only legal quarry of course) :lol:

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Re: Pics from 3 Hunts over Xmas

Post by Ruffshooter » Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:37 am

Dave: Sounds like you have a good life. Like reading of your hunts.

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Post by SHORTFAT » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:33 am

That is really cool! Never knew you had such opportunities over there! I really thought it was just for the very rich now... I'm glad to hear different! Don't hesitate to post more pics!.. and thanks for the thread! :D Oh...

Q. What's the difference between a stoat and weasel?
A. A Weasel is weasily wecognised and a stoat is stoataly different...

Sorry... couldn't resist... :mrgreen:
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Re: Pics from 3 Hunts over Xmas

Post by ACooper » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:36 am

Dave great photos as usual.

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Re: Pics from 3 Hunts over Xmas

Post by Dave C » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:52 pm

SHORTFAT wrote:That is really cool! Never knew you had such opportunities over there! I really thought it was just for the very rich now... I'm glad to hear different! Don't hesitate to post more pics!.. and thanks for the thread! :D Oh...

Q. What's the difference between a stoat and weasel?
A. A Weasel is weasily wecognised and a stoat is stoataly different...

Sorry... couldn't resist... :mrgreen:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks for all the replys guys.

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Re: Pics from 3 Hunts over Xmas

Post by Springer » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:44 pm

I like the mixed bag. I am thinking I may need to leave ND to hunt for some other types of birds.
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