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Places to Go in Kansas ?

Post by gittrdonebritts » Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:25 pm

not trying to steal luke0927's post but I'm trying to plan a trip to kansas and was wondering if anyone had suggestions good public land to hunt on?

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Post by jayhawkj » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:19 pm

I'd suggest you head west on I70 to at least Hays, if you base in Hays you will find plenty of walk in land either north or south to hunt. WaKeeney, Hill city or Norton are also excellent choices to base out of. If you are a single hunter you may find some of the walkin fields overwelming. If you are a single you may prefer Glen Elder although there are fields a single can hunt futher west you just might have to search a little to find them.I think you'll find the futher west you go the better your going to do. Have fun, Jim J

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Re: Places to Go in Kansas ?

Post by gittrdonebritts » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:32 pm

Thanks for the suggestions it will be just me and my wife and my dogs

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Post by jayhawkj » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:41 pm

You'll be fine out west, just make sure you stop and get a walk in book from Kansas fish and game, I can't tell you how helpfull they are. I'd try to pinpoint the smaller fields, you'll do some driving around searching, but you'll find very good fields and see lots of birds. My 15 year old son and I do this with our dogs and find sucess, only negative you'll run up against is no blockers.

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Re: Places to Go in Kansas ?

Post by gittrdonebritts » Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:08 pm

well i have never hunted using blockers to be honest. More and better dog work i think.

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Post by ezzy333 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:59 pm

gittrdonebritts wrote:Thanks for the suggestions it will be just me and my wife and my dogs
You aren't going to take me?

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Post by gittrdonebritts » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:27 am

ezzy333 wrote:You aren't going to take me?
ezzy, the trip was originally planned as a guys week which you would have been invited almost required to go to but in the process of convincing my wife, she decided a husband and wife trip was a better idea.

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Re: Places to Go in Kansas ?

Post by Busterb » Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:32 pm

gittrdonebritts wrote:well i have never hunted using blockers to be honest. More and better dog work i think.
Let us know how this works for you.

I have a feeling you'll be singing a different tune when it's the 2 of you and 2 dogs trying to pin down running pheasants in a 1 mile section of crp.

Best of luck you're going to need it.
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Re: Places to Go in Kansas ?

Post by birddog1968 » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:45 pm

I had no problem pinning Roosters with pointing dogs in two states last year (ND/SD).....

Did we move alot of birds? Sure ! Were the birds pinned memorable? Absolutely !

Hunting early season with all the crops up, and thick green CRP, in both states made it a challenging season, and I'll take that
over drive hunts any day. Different strokes , different folks. :wink:
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Re: Places to Go in Kansas ?

Post by gittrdonebritts » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:50 am

Busterb wrote:Let us know how this works for you.

I have a feeling you'll be singing a different tune when it's the 2 of you and 2 dogs trying to pin down running pheasants in a 1 mile section of crp.

Best of luck you're going to need it.
whast wrong with that ? scared of a little challenge Busterb ? I'd rather shoot a rooster that one of my dogs finally pinned even if it took a mile to get it done, to me that's what its all about letting the dogs work there magic not just chase the birds towards the other group or just sit and wait for a shot and retrieve. I'll be sure and let you know how it goes.

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Re: Places to Go in Kansas ?

Post by Busterb » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:34 am

Busterb wrote:Let us know how this works for you.

I have a feeling you'll be singing a different tune when it's the 2 of you and 2 dogs trying to pin down running pheasants in a 1 mile section of crp.

Best of luck you're going to need it.
whast wrong with that ? scared of a little challenge Busterb ? I'd rather shoot a rooster that one of my dogs finally pinned even if it took a mile to get it done, to me that's what its all about letting the dogs work there magic not just chase the birds towards the other group or just sit and wait for a shot and retrieve. I'll be sure and let you know how it goes.[/quote]

My point isn't the distance you will have to walk. It's more that you will never catch up to the birds.I go to Kansas every year for a week and hunt ever day all day for pheasants and quail in December and have been for the past 6 years. I know what it takes to harvest pheasants in Kansas. It appears you don't know and thus the reason I said that you might be singing a different tune when you return. Do you have any idea how big a section of CRP is? Even if your dogs runs an all age race for the whole section your chances of pinning down a running rooster are not good at all. Is is possible, Yes does it happen very often without blockers to kep the birds from running or flying out the end of the field. NO it doesn't.
If you want a challenge you have got one, and make sure you take a big plate as you are about to be served a huge piece of humble pie.

If you are going before December I don't know about that as I have only hunted pheasants in Kansas in December and know what it takes to shoot your limit on Walk-in area only.

If this is your first trip to Kansas here is some free advice. Your best chance of pinning some pheasants down is to hunt around the circles of milo or corn that have been cut and still have wheat stubble of CRP around them.

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Re: Places to Go in Kansas ?

Post by ezzy333 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:18 am

If you are going before December I don't know about that as I have only hunted pheasants in Kansas in December and know what it takes to shoot your limit on Walk-in area only.
And here in one sentence is the difference in the opinions of how to hunt Kansas, Busterb is judging the quality of the hunt by how many birds are shot and filling his limit. Gittrdone is judging on how the dogs work and the opportunities they have. I think many of us look at it that way anymore. I find no joy in filling my daily limit, though you seldom will miss with a good dog, but rather the quality of the hunt is my benchmark. I get no joy out of driving birds but if someone does then they are welcome to stand doing nothing at the end of the field where we are enjoying the dogs as they hunt the objectives, slamming a point, and retrieving the bird if I hit it. All I ask is the opportunity to watch the dogs hunt with an occasional find, and when that happens we have had an excellent day in the field, even if 100 birds fly out the far end. Those will be there for tomorrows hunt.


Don't see any reason for either to eat humble pie because both are getting the results they want., one with a boat load of pheasants to clean and the other with a few birds and two tired happy dogs to take home and feed and pet their heads for a job well done. One to brag about the number of birds that were shot and the other to brag about the way his dogs worked. One about his day of shooting and the other about his day of hunting. All in the eye of the beholder.

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Re: Places to Go in Kansas ?

Post by collinedward » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:07 pm

I was plan on heading out to Kansas this winter. Between my buddy and I we will have 4 GSP that have only been on pen raised birds or state released birds. Do you think this will be an issue for us?

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ezzy333 wrote:
If you are going before December I don't know about that as I have only hunted pheasants in Kansas in December and know what it takes to shoot your limit on Walk-in area only.
And here in one sentence is the difference in the opinions of how to hunt Kansas, Busterb is judging the quality of the hunt by how many birds are shot and filling his limit. Gittrdone is judging on how the dogs work and the opportunities they have. I think many of us look at it that way anymore. I find no joy in filling my daily limit, though you seldom will miss with a good dog, but rather the quality of the hunt is my benchmark. I get no joy out of driving birds but if someone does then they are welcome to stand doing nothing at the end of the field where we are enjoying the dogs as they hunt the objectives, slamming a point, and retrieving the bird if I hit it. All I ask is the opportunity to watch the dogs hunt with an occasional find, and when that happens we have had an excellent day in the field, even if 100 birds fly out the far end. Those will be there for tomorrows hunt.


Don't see any reason for either to eat humble pie because both are getting the results they want., one with a boat load of pheasants to clean and the other with a few birds and two tired happy dogs to take home and feed and pet their heads for a job well done. One to brag about the number of birds that were shot and the other to brag about the way his dogs worked. One about his day of shooting and the other about his day of hunting. All in the eye of the beholder.

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Busterb first i think that both of us and all the other GDF members should all agree ezzy is the Yoda of GDF and one of if not the wisest member.
and second i thank you for you input and advice we both have different view points on how we go about and enjoy our bird hunting. I know it will be tough but that's what makes it fun for me the challenge and maybe coming home empty handed its not a big deal to me.

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Post by muddycreek » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:25 pm

Busterb-you may want to reconsider. I hunt KS WHIA every weekend and never useblockers. Trying to make it sound like you know everything about pheasants really makes you sound like you now nothing. Different strokes for different folks, but I prefer my birds over points.

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Post by birddog1968 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:11 pm

collinedward wrote:I was plan on heading out to Kansas this winter. Between my buddy and I we will have 4 GSP that have only been on pen raised birds or state released birds. Do you think this will be an issue for us?
Gonna be a learning curve, but sometimes the curve isn't as big as we might think. Smart dogs will figure out how to handle wild roosters.

One thing and you probably already operate under it, don''t be tempted to shoot wild flushes, enjoy watching the dog get trained by a pea brained bird :mrgreen:
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Re: Places to Go in Kansas ?

Post by bean1031 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:34 pm

gittrdonebritts wrote:
ezzy333 wrote:
If you are going before December I don't know about that as I have only hunted pheasants in Kansas in December and know what it takes to shoot your limit on Walk-in area only.
And here in one sentence is the difference in the opinions of how to hunt Kansas, Busterb is judging the quality of the hunt by how many birds are shot and filling his limit. Gittrdone is judging on how the dogs work and the opportunities they have. I think many of us look at it that way anymore. I find no joy in filling my daily limit, though you seldom will miss with a good dog, but rather the quality of the hunt is my benchmark. I get no joy out of driving birds but if someone does then they are welcome to stand doing nothing at the end of the field where we are enjoying the dogs as they hunt the objectives, slamming a point, and retrieving the bird if I hit it. All I ask is the opportunity to watch the dogs hunt with an occasional find, and when that happens we have had an excellent day in the field, even if 100 birds fly out the far end. Those will be there for tomorrows hunt.


Don't see any reason for either to eat humble pie because both are getting the results they want., one with a boat load of pheasants to clean and the other with a few birds and two tired happy dogs to take home and feed and pet their heads for a job well done. One to brag about the number of birds that were shot and the other to brag about the way his dogs worked. One about his day of shooting and the other about his day of hunting. All in the eye of the beholder.

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Busterb first i think that both of us and all the other GDF members should all agree ezzy is the Yoda of GDF and one of if not the wisest member.
and second i thank you for you input and advice we both have different view points on how we go about and enjoy our bird hunting. I know it will be tough but that's what makes it fun for me the challenge and maybe coming home empty handed its not a big deal to me.

hhaha I never really thought about it like that! But yah, ezzy is kind of the yoda of the forum! But i think you are deffinetly wrong busterb, Me and two orther guys (one who had never even hunted pheasents) and my labrador limited out two days in a row on pheasent before noon and didnt block a single bird. Ezzy Is right when he talks about what different people expect out of a hunt. If hunting was only fun if you filled your limit I would have quit along time ago, because speaking from experience that only happens every now and again. I think for most of us hunting is an excuse to spend time in nature, with our favorite bird dog and escape our day to day worries. Its about watching the dog work and enjoyig time away from our bussy lives.If i just wanted to kill I would go to the local slaughtering house or the bird farm every weekend. Instead I hunt wild roosters behind a dog i trained, often times for hours without seeing a single bird because thats what i like to do, and Im going to keep on doing it.
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Post by gittrdonebritts » Sat Aug 14, 2010 7:49 am

bean 1031 wrote:I think for most of us hunting is an excuse to spend time in nature, with our favorite bird dog and escape our day to day worries. Its about watching the dog work and enjoyig time away from our bussy lives.If i just wanted to kill I would go to the local slaughtering house or the bird farm every weekend. Instead I hunt wild roosters behind a dog i trained, often times for hours without seeing a single bird because thats what i like to do, and Im going to keep on doing it.
Very good point birddog1968, its more than just the kill its the whole experience being in the field with your dogs good friends away from the daily grind and if you get lucky enough to knock a few down that's great if not no big deal, I've stopped hunting with a few people cause there constant need to try and get a shot on every single point, and would ruin most hunts with there whining about not seeing anything or shooting there limit. I just can't see why we don't all realize how lucky we are to be able to go out and hunt even at all.
















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Post by birddog1968 » Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:49 am

I'd like to take credit but that quote was all Bean1031 :)
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sorry bean1031 i was not paying close enough attention to wrote what. my mistake

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Post by luke0927 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:41 am

I was around hays last year by myself....we'll just say it was a challenge on the larger fields...hopefully some friends will be going this year and we can pin them down a little better.

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Post by allaboutourdogs » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:19 pm

I recently returned from a trip to Kansas to hunt in public hunting areas. The trip was great so I'll share you a bit about how to approach that hunt.

First of all you need to see what the state wildlife department is saying about bird numbers and the comparison between each. That’s enough to get you excited. After getting the necessary information on where to go approximately, go and get there.

Kansas WIHA’s allow foot traffic only so no need to take horses. So, we decided to take a total of 9 dogs, most of which were in training. This was going to be a budget trip so we loaded up plenty of left-over food to feed ourselves while on this exciting 5-day trip.

We hunted around one Township and was only finding about 2 birds per CRP tract and one covey of quail. We spoke to a farmer and asked him about that area and he related there was an isolated hail storm about the time the chicks hatched so their numbers were down. I didn’t recall seeing that written anywhere but I believed him. At 5:00 the next a.m. we traveled some 90 miles away to another area with a good report.

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Post by gittrdonebritts » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:26 pm

To those who have based in hays before whats in the town store wise like grocery stores sporting goods stores resturants ? movie theaters ?

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Post by brentonlwin » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:30 pm

I've been going out south and west of Hays the past three seasons. The first year it was me, my cousin, and a GSP that was loaned to us by a guy that said, "take him, let me know how he does", and we were all green. Not a one of us had ever seen a wild pheasant before then. Well, my cousin and I walked more in 5 days than we ever had before, but we limited everyday. That dog did pretty dang good...got a little better everyday. Then the second year it was me and my cousin again with a new dog that I bought that had some experience. We cleaned up again. Last year there were 4 of us for 2 days then one left so we were down to three but we had two good dogs. (I had to get another one!) The second dog was a pup that was 9 mo old and she did awesome. We did a little better with numbers as far as birds killed per field but it wasn't that much different.

You do have to strategize a bit or they will run circles around you in a big open space. I think a pheasant acts more like a deer than a bird. They find the quickest escape route and run most of the time but those routes are usally pretty easy to figure out after you've hunted the field a time or two. When we were tired, we would block at those place that we knew were escape routes and try to push the birds that direction but most of the time no one wanted to block. We try to herd them into a corner of a field where they have nowhere left to run. On thise big fields you just have to pick out a piece of it to hunt, make a strategy and focus on that rather than just walking all the way straight through a quarter section and then back again. I'm all about shooting one over the dog but when they are running the dog won't get many chances unless you do some sort of push on the birds to pressure more birds into one area where the running option is no longer there and what is left is sit tight or flush. Oh, there will be hundreds...heck, thousands that will flush way ahead but there will be some stragglers and a green dog can learn pretty dang quick if they have sense. Just be sure your dogs will come to you when called. That's the main thing. Every now and then they need to be checked up because they start putting too much pressure on the birds.

I value great dog work way more than the number of kills I get. We hunt hard, see a lot of good dog work, and get our limit nearly everyday with just 2-4 people so I know you can too.

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Post by gittrdonebritts » Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:30 pm

Brent ,
thanks for you advice input and words of encouragement, I'm very excited to take my older dogs who have only hunted wild roosters here in Illinois in tight cover were they have to sit or flush but don't run as much unless there is crops still standing. and my pup that will be 7 months. were can i go to get a map of the walk in areas do you have to go to a Conservation office ? or can you get them at like a wal-mart

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Post by gspmo1 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:17 pm

The Kansas Hunting atlas is available on their website now...I think they just put it up today.

Also there is a "crow" count survey available that was done in July I believe

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Post by brentonlwin » Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:08 am

The atlas is on the website and you can print it out but you can also get a book from Wal-mart. We always stop at Wal-mart to get our tags, supplies, and what not on the way and they always have an atlas. They are real nice to have in the truck with you. The roads aren't marked on there, that's the only thing I don't like. You have to keep up with what section you're in and count them off as you go but its usally pretty easy because everything is layed out so square and uniform.

You can get into plenty of birds on those walk-ins and when you're in town you can ask around and get permission to hunt some private land too. I've had people drive up and tell us where to go to find the birds and give us permission without us even asking for it. Most of the locals are very welcoming to hunters and as long as you are polite and respectful they will take care of you. If you get into a walk-in and after 30-45 minutes you haven't seen a bird, move to the next one. Don't waste your time because there are some really good ones.

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Re: Places to Go in Kansas ?

Post by Jack Williams » Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:50 pm

Been hunting in KS since 1985 all the way from GA, great walk in program. I was there 2 weeks ago hunting Prarie Chickens and saw lot's of Pheasant & Quail. You should check out the State of Kansas Dept of Wildlife website for some good info on area's with best bird count. Good luck, I'll be there for 2 weeks in Nov and 3 weeks in Jan.

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Post by V-John » Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:05 pm

I live in Kansas and have hunted it since... Well, it's the only state that I've ever hunted in. I've been hunting Prairie Chickens a LOT recently, and you can literally see them get smarter and smarter from day to day hunting. That's how the pheasants are.
They literally get smarter every day, with every contact.
Weather is another issue. Last year, we had quite a storm blow through, and it was "bleep" tough to get to a lot of birds after the storm.

My advice, is get the atlas, burn the boot leather and have fun.

(Hays, is a pretty decent sized town by the way. Can't comment on the theater but they will have grocery stores and the like. It's big enough to support a JuCo. )

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Post by CHJIII » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:55 am

We've based outside of Wakeeny the last two yeas and will be headed back this year. Lots of WIHA's and everyone hed some birds. Quail umbers were great last year. Wkeeny is big enough to have everything you need. Might stay up near Hill City this year.

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Post by Ruffshooter » Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:16 am

Quirva National wild life refuge:
It is a wicked cool place. There are sandhill cranes ducks, geese, pheasants, quail etc. And you can hunt there. Also white tails. It can get hit pretty hard but there is always CRP and hte Milo late.

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Post by luke0927 » Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:29 pm

I'll be leaving GA on Nov 14 going to hunt that first full opening week, hopefully It will be a good trip.

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Post by TAK » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:53 pm

Leaving from Utah on the 14th and hunting the 15th on to the point we can't walk no more or our limits are full.....

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Post by sigav8r » Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:42 am

Heading to KS on Dec 26th with a new (to our family) GSP. Treating it as a learning experience for both me and the dog! If anyone's interested in joining up, feel free. I like to learn from others and would gladly appreciate some training input too!

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