Best dog for me?

Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Thu May 22, 2014 9:27 pm

So i have decided to get rid of my coon hound and get a diff breed, i want a smart dog that will track and trail wounded game,squirrel hunt and rabbit hunt and maby a little racoon hunting but prob not, keep in mind that i work 10hour days 4 days a week an i do have 2 kids ao it has to be a good family dog, also im on a budget and dont want to spend too much on a dog so whats the best breed for me? Feel free to ask questions

MGIII · Post by **MGIII** » Thu May 22, 2014 9:57 pm

Vanebecker wrote:So i have decided to get rid of my coon hound and get a diff breed, i want a smart dog that will track and trail wounded game,squirrel hunt and rabbit hunt and maby a little racoon hunting but prob not, keep in mind that i work 10hour days 4 days a week an i do have 2 kids ao it has to be a good family dog, also im on a budget and dont want to spend too much on a dog so whats the best breed for me? Feel free to ask questions

What is too much money?

How much energy do you want in a dog?

How much time do you have to take it out a day?

What size of dog is ideal for you?

Middlecreek · Post by **Middlecreek** » Thu May 22, 2014 10:27 pm

Mountain Cur.....

duckn66 · Post by **duckn66** » Fri May 23, 2014 9:00 am

Mountain Cur.

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Fri May 23, 2014 10:00 am

Vanebecker wrote:So i have decided to get rid of my coon hound and get a diff breed, i want a smart dog that will track and trail wounded game,squirrel hunt and rabbit hunt and maby a little racoon hunting but prob not, keep in mind that i work 10hour days 4 days a week an i do have 2 kids ao it has to be a good family dog, also im on a budget and dont want to spend too much on a dog so whats the best breed for me? Feel free to ask questions

Black Mouth Cur...the original Old Yeller.
But nothing would beat a beagle for rabbits....one size fits all seldom is the best route to take.

diplomat019 · Post by **diplomat019** » Fri May 23, 2014 10:14 am

why are you getting rid of your dog?

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Fri May 23, 2014 11:09 am

diplomat019 wrote:why are you getting rid of your dog?

A legitimate question.

Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Fri May 23, 2014 12:10 pm

She dont like my wife...at all and she is agressive at things she dont want to do and bites

Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Fri May 23, 2014 12:11 pm

Ok here are my 2 picks im torn between 1:beagle 2:mountain cur...pros and con of both? Want to hunt squirrel,rabit and track and trail

Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Fri May 23, 2014 12:13 pm

And price difference?

diplomat019 · Post by **diplomat019** » Fri May 23, 2014 12:14 pm

thats sucks. pack your wifes bags and let her know you had a good run. hahahahaha jk.

good luck on the search. ever consider a versatile dog? could do all things you want plus upland. just a thought

Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Fri May 23, 2014 12:17 pm

Like what?

Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Fri May 23, 2014 4:43 pm

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i didnt know beagles came in this color too?!? Is it a real beagle? Its mom and dad look like real beagles and im told they are but no papers and its only $150

kcbullets · Post by **kcbullets** » Fri May 23, 2014 8:57 pm

My dad used to raise beagles and he had several with similar looks as those pictured.

Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Fri May 23, 2014 9:37 pm

That is Cool haha

duckn66 · Post by **duckn66** » Sat May 24, 2014 9:39 am

Vanebecker wrote:She dont like my wife...at all and she is agressive at things she dont want to do and bites

This sounds like a behavior that was allowed. What makes you think the next dog won't do the same thing if allowed to? You need to get that behavior under control instead of letting it be the next guys problem. I can see this poor dog going from home to home until it finally ends up in the pound.

MGIII · Post by **MGIII** » Sat May 24, 2014 10:01 am

duckn66 wrote:
Vanebecker wrote:She dont like my wife...at all and she is agressive at things she dont want to do and bites
This sounds like a behavior that was allowed. What makes you think the next dog won't do the same thing if allowed to? You need to get that behavior under control instead of letting it be the next guys problem. I can see this poor dog going from home to home until it finally ends up in the pound.

I agree with this.

Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Sat May 24, 2014 3:47 pm

No she is sold to my landlord who has a LOT of land and hunts a LOT so i know she will be MUCH happier where she is

Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Mon May 26, 2014 9:03 pm

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so this is the dog i picked, im told its a gsp but the mom and dad had longer hair and werent as tall as a gsp should be so ill let yall decide what it is

Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Mon May 26, 2014 9:06 pm

So here is the mom and dad and some other pups in the litter

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dad

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mom

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Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Mon May 26, 2014 9:08 pm

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Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Mon May 26, 2014 9:09 pm

Also mine and the other white one has had tail docked and are showing a few ticking spots so maby they ARE gsp??

deseeker · Post by **deseeker** » Mon May 26, 2014 10:41 pm

Vanebecker wrote:Also mine and the other white one has had tail docked and are showing a few ticking spots so maby they ARE gsp??

Dad looks like a wire hair. Mom's picture is too far away & not clear enough to tell if she is a wire or a gsp. Either way I bet they find birds

Good luck with the pup.

MGIII · Post by **MGIII** » Tue May 27, 2014 4:24 am

I think you heard them wrong, those look like German wirehair pointers not GSP. So how much research did you do on breeds before you picked one out?

This is something about the breed you need to know:
"Children should be taught how to display proper leadership skills . If this dog does not see humans as above it in the pecking order it will become dominating and pushy and may try to dominate other animals."

Sounds like you are going to have to train your wife and this dog better than the last one or you will have the same problem.

Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Tue May 27, 2014 10:58 am

I sone a LOT of resurch on these dogs and yea they are wirehare which is better for my case couse they were bred for dirtier and tougher hunting so im happy with that and also the mom and dad were awesome with the small kid that were there and verry sweet so maby he will be the same, all in all i think i now have the best choice hunting dog for me

MGIII · Post by **MGIII** » Tue May 27, 2014 11:54 am

Vanebecker wrote:I sone a LOT of resurch on these dogs and yea they are wirehare which is better for my case couse they were bred for dirtier and tougher hunting so im happy with that and also the mom and dad were awesome with the small kid that were there and verry sweet so maby he will be the same, all in all i think i now have the best choice hunting dog for me

Ok... So you still have to train them better than your previous dog is what I'm trying to say.

No matter what breed it is any dog can have behavioral problems like you last dog did without the proper training. Your wife needs to let the dog she is in charge not the other way around.

Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Tue May 27, 2014 8:34 pm

K thanks

Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Wed May 28, 2014 5:11 pm

Ok so i was doing more resurch on the breed and where it came from and all and now im confused, the mother and father actually DONT look like wirehaired pointers but more like pointing griffons( yes i know they are almost the same dog ) because they have REALY thick wire hair and ar short and stocky exactly like the pointing griffon! Ill upload more pics when i can but someone help me out here haha

diplomat019 · Post by **diplomat019** » Wed May 28, 2014 7:06 pm

what is the breeder telling you? who are you buying this from that doesn't know what kind of dog they have?

Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Wed May 28, 2014 8:47 pm

She said they were gsp pups haha i only spent $50 on him couse she has to get rid of them fast for moving, mom and dad are free i just have no room for them, i have more pics on my wifes cam ill post when she decides to email them to me, it was an accidental breeding the mom and dad are only 1yr old but he got loose and bred with her...i dont Realy care im just Realy curious i think ima do a dna test

Brazosvalleyvizslas · Post by **Brazosvalleyvizslas** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:06 pm

They looked crossed to me. I doubt they are pure GSP's for $50. Ask if the breeder has a woodpile.

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:30 pm

This is a sad story too often told.

RoostersMom · Post by **RoostersMom** » Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:35 am

Probably a cross-bred pup, I sure wouldn't waste any money on a DNA test - they are totally unreliable and a waste of money.

Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:48 pm

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Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:15 pm

So instead of playing a guessing game I decided to go ahead and get a full blood GSP with papers and all haha here is my 2nd little man [attachment=-1]8300219.jpg[/attachment] just pit the deposit in today

Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:15 pm

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Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:16 pm

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MGIII · Post by **MGIII** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:21 pm

So now you have 2 dogs??

diplomat019 · Post by **diplomat019** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:58 am

i am so confused with this thread...lol

Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:56 am

Well there's really no use in this thread anymore but I don't know how to delete it :\

Mountaineer · Post by **Mountaineer** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:30 am

MGIII wrote:So now you have 2 dogs??

I was afraid to ask.

Donnytpburge · Post by **Donnytpburge** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:33 am

Vanbecker:

Have fun and enjoy your pups.
Good luck.
Db

MGIII · Post by **MGIII** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:52 pm

Mountaineer wrote:
MGIII wrote:So now you have 2 dogs??

I was afraid to ask.

I'm afraid to hear the answer.

Donnytpburge · Post by **Donnytpburge** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:06 pm

Mg

If the man wants two pups that's his business and his money.
Why don't you show a little support to a new guy in the bird dog world .

We need more hunters and we need more bird dog people
To keep the tradition alive!

Van Becker, enjoy your pups & good luck!

Db

MGIII · Post by **MGIII** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:50 pm

Donnytpburge wrote:Mg

If the man wants two pups that's his business and his money.
Why don't you show a little support to a new guy in the bird dog world .

We need more hunters and we need more bird dog people
To keep the tradition alive!

Van Becker, enjoy your pups & good luck!

Db

Don't get me wrong, I hope he does well with his new pups however he already gave away his previous dog because of the lack of dog knowledge and lack obedience training. It bothers me because 1 dog is work, 2 dogs can be a pain in the butt especially when you don't know what you are doing. These dogs will end up like the last one. I think he should stick with one dog and concentrate on it.

Ps
I'm not trying to sound like an a-hole, it just sounds like I am.

Donnytpburge · Post by **Donnytpburge** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:09 pm

I agree that the situation is twisted, but it is what it is.
People come on this board for guidance and support.
We all learn as we go.

Db

Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:01 pm

I'm getting rid of the first pup because I want a registered gsp and I got a really good deal on one and I get it in 4 weeks and I now own gsp books and training books and DVDs so I'm ready for the training process but I'd still like help from you guys if I could get it! I just got off on a rocky start finding what I wanted is all and all so an update on my previous dog, she is doing really well where she is now and progressing very well, she just needed a place with other coon dogs is all and there aren't many of those here so I'm happy with my decision and as for this pup I think someone wants him for a family dog (which he is really good at) so it all works out and I'm getting the dog I wanted all along (just couldn't afford it to start with) so all is well here

MGIII · Post by **MGIII** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:18 pm

Vanebecker wrote:I'm getting rid of the first pup because I want a registered gsp and I got a really good deal on one and I get it in 4 weeks and I now own gsp books and training books and DVDs so I'm ready for the training process but I'd still like help from you guys if I could get it! I just got off on a rocky start finding what I wanted is all and all so an update on my previous dog, she is doing really well where she is now and progressing very well, she just needed a place with other coon dogs is all and there aren't many of those here so I'm happy with my decision and as for this pup I think someone wants him for a family dog (which he is really good at) so it all works out and I'm getting the dog I wanted all along (just couldn't afford it to start with) so all is well here

Excellent. Good to hear. I'm sorry I came off rude. Good luck training the dog. It's really fun and rewarding. Just remember that you and your wife are the leaders of the pack, not the dog. Keep us updated on how you are the dog are doing on training

Vanebecker · Post by **Vanebecker** » Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:52 am

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updated pic...I get him this sunday

sdsujacks · Post by **sdsujacks** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:32 pm

How is the pup? Any updates?