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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby MonsterDad » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:41 pm

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... 280363#PIC

looks like a deal to me, this too, and there are quite a few SKB SXS on there. SKB's are great used guns because the quality is very high and the resale very low.

http://www.gunsinternational.com/SKB-20 ... =100378461
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby SetterNut » Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:46 pm

RYNO wrote:Heck why settle for a either, get both, in one gun. :lol:
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Put a couple more barrels on that thing and you will have a Gatling gun :lol:
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby DonF » Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:59 pm

I wonder how much that thing weight's?
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby jack the dog » Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:40 am

I have both but prefer the classics SXS. Actually my go-to gun for classic SXS is a New Ithaca Double in 16 GA.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby DonF » Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:46 am

The SKB and Mirouka are both extremely nice guns IMO. Like to see a photo of the new Ithica double. Didn't know they were selling them. Got a beautiful catalog from connecticut shotguns. beautiful guns but cost more than my car!
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby jack the dog » Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:04 pm

I like those Galazans myself, but I would have to sell a kidney or two to be able to afford one.
My New Ithaca Double was new in the 1920's.
That's the model, the NID, New Ithaca Double.
I wish they would make some new ones too.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby Vonzeppelinkennels » Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:11 pm

Don a company has bought the rights to Ithaca & are now producing new ones started with the model 37 but are expanding I didn't know about the doubles.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby Mountaineer » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:18 pm

The Ithaca company located in Upper Sandusky are not making the NID or older Ithaca SXSs...they are making various models of the pump.

The New NID of a few years ago went belly up after turning out some nice scatterguns...not sure who owns those rights now.

Be nice to see a new Uncle Dan lefever but I expect that is never to be.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby rkappes » Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:29 pm

Handled the guns below today. All are in great shape. Merkel felt the best, came up and swung nice, beautiful wood on it also. LC Ideal was a bit heavy I thought. BSS wasn’t as light as it looks but came up pretty darn nice. Not the best looking wood on it. It’s a start I guess.

We have a gun show in town the beginning of December that I’m going to try and get to so I can handle a few more guns.

LC Ideal 16ga 1921 $2,999
Merkel 47E 20ga $3,199
Browning BSS 20 gauge $2,300
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby roaniecowpony » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:26 am

I'm a sxs nut. I have one o/u still. Its a 32" Browning 20 ga 525 sporting clays gun. It doesn't see the light of day much. I've had a fair sized pile of o/u guns but they're all gone and replaced with sxs guns.

I think you've gotten some good info, especially Toolings summation. I deviate from his recommendations in the 28ga and .410. I've become a .410 addict. Particularly sxs .410s, although there are two Winchester model 42 pumps in the safe as well. I hunt all upland birds with .410s, including wild roosters and chukar. But thinking about it rationally, or as rationally as anyone can think about spending all their disposable income on this tomfoolery, a 20ga is what I'd recommend.

I have three BSS 20 ga guns in my safe. I shoot them for sporting clays fairly regularly. Reliable as a bowling ball. A bit heavy for a 20ga. But they swing nicer because of that. My favorite 20 ga tart lately is my 1927 NID Grade 3 ejector factory single trigger that has bee restocked to my dimensions and completely restored. It too is a bit heavy.


I can recommend the BSS guns without reservation. They will handle steel shot when choked modified or more open. I don't know if the thin walled Spanish doubles like the AYA #2, Arrietta, and similar will digest the steel shot without long term consequences. I had a 20ga AYA #2 years ago and it had some thin barrels. The lighter guns have thinner barrels on average. The weight has to come from somewhere.

I don't know if Merkels are steel shot compatible. But if so, they'd be good candidates.

A Parker Reproduction would be fine as they are steel shot compatible. But they are generally out of your stated budget by a little and are most often found in short 26" barrels. 28" barrels would be my choice. Most of the 28" guns were part of two barrel sets They are out there in as single barrel guns, but are fewer.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby rkappes » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:44 am

roaniecowpony wrote:I'm a sxs nut. I have one o/u still. Its a 32" Browning 20 ga 525 sporting clays gun. It doesn't see the light of day much. I've had a fair sized pile of o/u guns but they're all gone and replaced with sxs guns.

I think you've gotten some good info, especially Toolings summation. I deviate from his recommendations in the 28ga and .410. I've become a .410 addict. Particularly sxs .410s, although there are two Winchester model 42 pumps in the safe as well. I hunt all upland birds with .410s, including wild roosters and chukar. But thinking about it rationally, or as rationally as anyone can think about spending all their disposable income on this tomfoolery, a 20ga is what I'd recommend.

I have three BSS 20 ga guns in my safe. I shoot them for sporting clays fairly regularly. Reliable as a bowling ball. A bit heavy for a 20ga. But they swing nicer because of that. My favorite 20 ga tart lately is my 1927 NID Grade 3 ejector factory single trigger that has bee restocked to my dimensions and completely restored. It too is a bit heavy.


I can recommend the BSS guns without reservation. They will handle steel shot when choked modified or more open. I don't know if the thin walled Spanish doubles like the AYA #2, Arrietta, and similar will digest the steel shot without long term consequences. I had a 20ga AYA #2 years ago and it had some thin barrels. The lighter guns have thinner barrels on average. The weight has to come from somewhere.

I don't know if Merkels are steel shot compatible. But if so, they'd be good candidates.

A Parker Reproduction would be fine as they are steel shot compatible. But they are generally out of your stated budget by a little and are most often found in short 26" barrels. 28" barrels would be my choice. Most of the 28" guns were part of two barrel sets They are out there in as single barrel guns, but are fewer.



Thanks for the input, I appreciate it very much!
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby rkappes » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:22 pm

The gun show this last Sunday was kind of a bust. Small show, only (3) side x sides. One LC and two Remington 1900 12 gauges. I did like how the 1900s came up and handled.

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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby Ike » Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:33 am

Strictly a SxS man myself. You won't regret it if you find one that fits. Just look at the bird and pull the trigger!
I currently have a 1921 Francotte and a 1916 AH Fox.
You mentioned the need for non toxic shot on some hunts. Bismuth and Tungeston are alternatives to the steel but are very expensive. Some have mentioned the Browning BSS and they are fine guns. I wish I had the two I've traded off over the years back. Good luck in your search.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby DonF » Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:33 am

roaniecowpony wrote:I'm a sxs nut. I have one o/u still. Its a 32" Browning 20 ga 525 sporting clays gun. It doesn't see the light of day much. I've had a fair sized pile of o/u guns but they're all gone and replaced with sxs guns.

I think you've gotten some good info, especially Toolings summation. I deviate from his recommendations in the 28ga and .410. I've become a .410 addict. Particularly sxs .410s, although there are two Winchester model 42 pumps in the safe as well. I hunt all upland birds with .410s, including wild roosters and chukar. But thinking about it rationally, or as rationally as anyone can think about spending all their disposable income on this tomfoolery, a 20ga is what I'd recommend.

I have three BSS 20 ga guns in my safe. I shoot them for sporting clays fairly regularly. Reliable as a bowling ball. A bit heavy for a 20ga. But they swing nicer because of that. My favorite 20 ga tart lately is my 1927 NID Grade 3 ejector factory single trigger that has bee restocked to my dimensions and completely restored. It too is a bit heavy.


I can recommend the BSS guns without reservation. They will handle steel shot when choked modified or more open. I don't know if the thin walled Spanish doubles like the AYA #2, Arrietta, and similar will digest the steel shot without long term consequences. I had a 20ga AYA #2 years ago and it had some thin barrels. The lighter guns have thinner barrels on average. The weight has to come from somewhere.

I don't know if Merkels are steel shot compatible. But if so, they'd be good candidates.

A Parker Reproduction would be fine as they are steel shot compatible. But they are generally out of your stated budget by a little and are most often found in short 26" barrels. 28" barrels would be my choice. Most of the 28" guns were part of two barrel sets They are out there in as single barrel guns, but are fewer.


Really good post. Thing with me and guns, i view them as a tool. Doesn't mean I don't take care of them of appreciate a nice one but in the end they are simply tools. In the past couple years I went to shooting a SxS 20ga I've had for years and never shot. A lot nicer than carrying around my 16ga. Then the past few month's I started using a 410 SxS when I go out dog training, what a sweet gun! I don't care for the chokes, M/F but plan on having that fixed soon as I can. It's like carrying around a wand. Have some 3" 3/4 oz loads but haven't shot them at anything. Really like the 2 1/2" loads 1/2 oz #6's. I've never had a bunch of shotguns around, don't shoot clays of any kind more than maybe once every several years, shotguns are tools! One huge problem for me was I used to shoot rifles a great deal and be d*mned if the pointing habit is easy to get rid of. But once I did, shotgun shooting came easy for me.

Couldn't care less about steel shot, I won't hunt or shoot anywhere it's needed. Don't own a gun that would handle it I don't think. Three AyA matadors and one very old Ithica mod 37.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby rkappes » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:46 pm

How important is case color? I've seen guns that show good honest use are in good working order and good shape otherwise but have a low % of case color remaining...is case color a big deal?
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby Mountaineer » Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:14 pm

rkappes wrote:How important is case color? I've seen guns that show good honest use are in good working order and good shape otherwise but have a low % of case color remaining...is case color a big deal?


The surface is hardened but it really depends upon how much effort you wish to use to keep the coloring as new, the colors are not durable and need protected by a lacquer.
I think case colors look better worn to a silver but, it is individual.
Achieving great case colors is somewhat of an art as can be the case-hardening process itself...matching case colors to a firearm companies type, even more so.
It all amounts to little more than personal choice in a look.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby Pastor Brown » Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:41 am

so did you ever purchase a gun? don't see it on here anywhere.

I know it's old, but I strongly prefer O/U
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby rkappes » Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:22 pm

Pastor Brown wrote:so did you ever purchase a gun? don't see it on here anywhere.

I know it's old, but I strongly prefer O/U



Hey Pastor Brown,

Haven't bought anything yet. I did find a nice little 16 ga Parker VH, nice short barrels, feels great, swings great, good condition (not much case color) but otherwise real good condition but haven't bought it or anything yet. Trying not to rush into anything.
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Classic SxS or O/U

Postby Pastor Brown » Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:50 pm

Fools rush in, & wisdom waits

So they say... :)

Let us know what you decide!
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby Tooling » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:10 am

Patience is by all means a virtue with this sort of thing.

That said, if you find the right pc and know it..don't dicker around lest you will be left with that "shoulda'" feeling..-aka- lamenting.

If it's all there...build, feel,aesthetics, etc. don't ponder it because that S.O.B. Murphy will buy it the second you walk out the door.

The colors on case hardened pcs are just that...colors which are merely aesthetic. The Parker repro cc's suck and 9 out of 10 I've seen look like crap even if new anyhow..I prefer the worn look personally knowing that if it ever got to bugging me I could have it redone resulting in a much nicer finish anyhow.

At the prices that guys are trying to get for the repros it becomes viable to buy a V grade Parker and have it refinished...heck I've even seen some G grades that would be viable dollar for dollar. A fella does have to be careful with this though because if you haven't got at least some of the tools and some of the know-how yourself you are going to become beholden to those that can and do. You could also take a pc to the point of no return putting yourself in a damned if you do /damned if you don't scenario so doing something like this should only be done with much consideration and knowledge going in. Learning over time while slowly coming to a commitment could be a very satisfying experience for you transforming that heirloom you seek into a true heirloom that genuinely has your mark on it as well...may be something to consider.

I think it's cool that you seem to be migrating to the Parkers. I have myself as there really is just something about them and they just seem "right" even if they are bordering on the heavy side IMO. I've been through where you are at and think its safe to say that I've kind of settled into the Merkel / Parker camp :) <----my wallet disagrees :(

Roaniecowpony is somebody you should listen to on this subject...I agree with him and others as I LOVE the 28 and .410 and also have more than a few inexpensive .410's....seriously enjoy them and also reload for them. They are by all means capable but I just lack confidence in myself w/a preference for a dead bird in the air. I'm a wuss when it comes to that sort of thing as I don't ever feel good about the "killing" part of the deal and often times tip my hat to the wiley Rooster that makes his safe get-away w/out a shot fired. I'm actually a pretty decent wing-shot only because I don't take foolish shots but in the real world some shots are tricky through trees etc..I don't want to be under-gunned owing it to the quarry. Perhaps that will change over time as my experience grows, unfortunately my location does not offer the opportunities to get there quickly :(
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby Tooling » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:12 am

Pastor Brown wrote:
So they say... :)



Yeah that...lol
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby roaniecowpony » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:18 am

A strong young hunter can carry a 7 1/2 lb 12 ga all day long and be happy he can shoot a big 1 3/8 oz load of #4 at roosters. Younger hunters are eager to fill their bag to the limit. A big 12 g black plastic auto is often preferred. As I get older and now have a pointer, I see the whole hunting activity differently. I want to carry guns I'm proud of and that give me a lot of reward. For me that means early 20th century American sxs small bores. I never felt better about shooting a rooster than the first one I shot with a .410 in South Dakota. I was really tickled. That said, a 410 isn't everyone's cup of tea. I can have bad days with them too.

I think the 16 and 20 g are a good place for upland hunters to jump into the lighter doubles more suited to upland hunting and still maintain confidence in their shooting. A 410 can quickly drain confidence on bad days. Many guys raised on modern guns can't get used to a double trigger gun. That eliminates about 99% of early sxs guns. Learn to use a double trigger and the world of great sxs guns opens up for you.

For upland birds up to and including wild roosters, I find that a 20 g with 1 oz of my preferred shot size kills them about as reliably as a 12 ga with just the slightest limitation in range. I really dont have any meaningful experience with a 16g but friends that have them swear they are the equal of a 12g for upland and often are available in guns lighter than a 12g.

I have some limited experience with 28g. I shot a few roosters in South Dakota with my Parker Repro. My thoughts are that it adds more challenge than a 20g and puts a little more range limitation just due to pattern density loss as distance increases. I think 35 yds with tight chokes and big shot on wild roosters is realistic. Im no big chukar hunter but i took a wild chukar with a 28 g shooting 1 oz of #5 thru a very tight choke at about 40 yds. A 3/4 oz load of 7 1/2 will kill any wild quail out pretty far depending on choke.

410s seem to bring out a lot of divisive discussion. People often hate 410s and say they aren't suitable for hunting and that they're unsportsmanlike. I'm on the other side of this argument. I like 410s especially for quail. 35 yds is a realistic limit for shooting quail with a 3" 11/16 oz load with a modified choke. Knock off another 5 yds for 2 1/2" shells. I prefer a cylinder bore first shot and at least modified choked second barrel.

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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby Pastor Brown » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:58 am

Do any of your wives hunt?

If so, what do they use?

I love taking my wife, & she loves hunting.

just curious
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby roaniecowpony » Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:59 am

PB,
A few of the guys on a double gun forum I belong to have wives that hunt. My recollection is that 20g is popular with the ladies. A 20g is a nice balance of economy of ammunition, payload capacity and available gun weight for an upland gun.

If a nice o/u is still a consideration, a 20g Browning Superposed in 28" bbls is a magic wand to many people. I had a two barrel set that worked well for me.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby DoubleBarrel GunDogs » Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:37 pm

Pastor Brown wrote:Do any of your wives hunt?

If so, what do they use?

I love taking my wife, & she loves hunting.

just curious


Occasionally I can get my wife to go along. Usually pen raised birds and some grouse hunting. She has an 870 youth model 20 ga., but prefers my 20 ga. Beretta silver pigeon. Someday I'll get her that 20 ga 26" O/u Beretta she's been wanting. Shooting a gun that fits well makes shooting a lot more fun.

I was considering a Franchi SL for her, but I'm a little concerned with lighter weight and more recoil.

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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby Ms. Cage » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:16 pm

I shoot a Rem. 870 youth model 20 ga. I'd like to take one of my husbands safe queen Ithica SKB S x S 20 ga,'s into the gunsmith and have one shortened a bit.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby Carolina Gundogs » Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:46 am

I purchased a 20 ga SKB 280 SxS many years back. It is by far my favorite gun of all time. It is light, durable and easy to shoot.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby DoubleBarrel GunDogs » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:12 pm

Ms. Cage wrote:I shoot a Rem. 870 youth model 20 ga. I'd like to take one of my husbands safe queen Ithica SKB S x S 20 ga,'s into the gunsmith and have one shortened a bit.


Maybe if you scratch off the serial number he won't notice? :lol:

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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby roaniecowpony » Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:08 pm

Ms. Cage wrote:I shoot a Rem. 870 youth model 20 ga. I'd like to take one of my husbands safe queen Ithica SKB S x S 20 ga,'s into the gunsmith and have one shortened a bit.


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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby TonyS » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:46 pm

When I was faced with this question in the beginning I had a leaning towards SxS.

A friend had one for sale and that was it. I bought a 1934 Ithaca Western Long Range in 20 Gauge. I love it.

There are plenty around. And you probably don't have to worry about not shooting lead the way we are now forced in California.

My next, since I will have to have a gun that can shoot steel, will be a CZ bobwhite. And remember, double triggers are separate. When you buy a single I think you are asking for problems.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby Tooling » Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:38 am

Not sure if you ever acted on this yet but if you want a "classic" with the added benefit of modern materials et al

Here it is....http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =397649922

A bit more than you originally wanted to spend but it is heirloom quality and by all means the quintessential American Classic which would arrive in a nice leather case etc..a trigger for each barrel too :)

New seller and he / she could have - should have showcased it w/better pics but that is a very nice shotgun nonetheless.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby roaniecowpony » Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:19 pm

You don't "swing" that gun, you "make way to come about".
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby Mountaineer » Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:41 am

JKP wrote:Not enough barrels...

http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=4824597



Those type scatterguns have been around for well over 100 years...one would think people would learn.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby JKP » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:26 pm

http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=4824597
Those type scatterguns have been around for well over 100 years...one would think people would learn.


I want to know if the tripod comes with it.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby rkappes » Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:44 pm

Tooling wrote:Not sure if you ever acted on this yet but if you want a "classic" with the added benefit of modern materials et al

Here it is....http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =397649922

A bit more than you originally wanted to spend but it is heirloom quality and by all means the quintessential American Classic which would arrive in a nice leather case etc..a trigger for each barrel too :)

New seller and he / she could have - should have showcased it w/better pics but that is a very nice shotgun nonetheless.



Hi Tooling. I haven't bought anything yet. The local gun shop has a similar gun to this, its a beauty.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby Neil » Tue Apr 01, 2014 7:32 pm

rkappes wrote:
LC Ideal 16ga 1921 $2,999
Merkel 47E 20ga $3,199
Browning BSS 20 gauge $2,300


I have not been keeping up with gun values, but I would think at that price the BSS is the Sporter or whatever they called the one with fake sideplates, if not I need to raise my insurance gun rider.

Which is another way of saying it is my favorite SxS, I bought one new in 1971 and have added 3 since. A bit heavy, but mounts and swings nicely. I have never had need of a repair, never a malfunction, and that first one has had very heavy use, 1,000's of rounds.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby P&PGunsmith » Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:26 pm

What about a new classic. Caesar Guerini Tempio Light.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby Ms. Cage » Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:24 pm

Howie kicks himself all the time for selling his Parker reproduction 28 ga. He bought one at whole sale when the reproduction first came out , $1,600.00. Even at todays price he'd like another.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby Tooling » Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:41 pm

Ms. Cage wrote:Howie kicks himself all the time for selling his Parker reproduction 28 ga. He bought one at whole sale when the reproduction first came out , $1,600.00. Even at todays price he'd like another.


They really are fantastic shotguns and there is something pretty special about the 28ga in particular
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby P&PGunsmith » Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:14 pm

P&PGunsmith wrote:What about a new classic. Caesar Guerini Tempio Light.
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Could not get the picture thing to work yesterday. So i am trying something different.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby Tooling » Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:37 pm

P&P - Although I've been pretty stuck on sxs's for awhile now, I've been wanting to have a good look at those but haven't had much of a chance to do so yet...a lot of people seem to like them

Does that model have an aluminum receiver? I wouldn't like that but if memory serves correct they have a pretty good catalogue of offerings.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby P&PGunsmith » Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:46 pm

Tooling wrote:P&P - Although I've been pretty stuck on sxs's for awhile now, I've been wanting to have a good look at those but haven't had much of a chance to do so yet...a lot of people seem to like them

Does that model have an aluminum receiver? I wouldn't like that but if memory serves correct they have a pretty good catalogue of offerings.

Yes it is the aluminum reciever. I wanted a very light gun ( 5 lbs. 14 oz. ) and there are times i wish i had the 28" barrels in lieu of the 26" but for the most part i shoot the gun well and really like it. I reload so i just dropped the loads down a bit to make up for the weight. this model the Tempio light is also availble as the Tempio, the latter having a steel reciever. They do this with several models.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby rkappes » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:37 pm

Sorry for the delay....with a girlfriend in grad school, a baby, and buying a house and remodeling it, my SxS budget kind of dwindled. I did however purchase a 1927 LC Smith, 12ga, 30" barrels. Would probably prefer a 20ga and 26" barrels but it feels super nice! And, I had some giftcards so I only ended up paying $13 out of pocket. I think it should be a good intro gun into the world of double guns.
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Re: Classic SxS or O/U

Postby setterpoint » Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:58 am

check with field sports in traverscity michigan they have some nice guns in that price range. and are good folks to deal with and know what they are talking about the have a web page
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