Hunting Dog Training & More    

Popular Searches: Garmin Astro | Dog Collars | Tri-Tronics | SPORTdog

English Pointer or Wirehaired Pointing Griffon...

Pointer or Griffon?

English Pointer
21
55%
Wirehaired Pointing Griffon
17
45%
 
Total votes : 38

English Pointer or Wirehaired Pointing Griffon...

Postby Fred » Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:52 am

Hello I'm looking at getting a bird dog but can't decide between these too. I've been researching it but I'm hoping I can get some advice from some people with more experience.

I want a great Grouse and Woodcock dog, some pheasant. I don't plan on hunting any waterfowl, pretty much all upland.

I don't want a big running dog, I'd like the dog to stay close most of the time.

It will be a house dog living with me all the time.

I will be in a somewhat colder envirnment in the U.P. of Michigan.

How the dog looks doesn't matter to me it just has to be really birdy and hunt driven.

Money won't take part in my decision, just the ability of the dog.

There will be no kids around.

I want a good hunting companion as well as a friend to have around.

Ease of training would help alot.

I will more then likely be hunting daily so they have to be able to endure such circumstances.

I will be training them entirely on wild birds.

I will be the only one living with it so I don't want it to have a tendancy to be timid.

Thanks for helping with my decision, I know I will have to make it on my own but your advice will help.
Fred
 
Location: Please ADD LOCATION

Postby big steve46 » Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:11 pm

Why not also consider a E. Setter or L. Setter?
User avatar
big steve46
Rank: 5X Champion
 
Posts: 1398
Joined: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:50 pm
Location: S. Illinois

Postby Maverick » Sun Jul 30, 2006 1:25 pm

Sounds like he has better taste then that!! :P :wink:

If the area you are hunting is colder the you may want to go with the Wirehaired Pointing Griffon as it will better with stand the cold then the shorter coated english pointer.
Other then that they will both get the job done for you. Just research the breeders and ask lots and lots of questions and check referances.
Also see both parents working if at all possible.
Good luck in your search, let us know what you get.

Mav...
User avatar
Maverick
Rank: 5X Champion
 
Posts: 766
Joined: Wed May 18, 2005 8:08 am
Location: Home on the Range

Postby Casper » Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:05 pm

We cannot make your decision for you. All we can do is give a biased opinion to what we think is better. Like Maverick said both will get the job done. Both have their Pros and Cons. Since you stated that you plan on only hunting the uplands your decision should reflect accordingly. There are other breeds that their main job is hunting the uplands and they have exceled at them to a great deal. Those breeds include the Pointer, Setter, Brittany, and the GSP. That does not limit it to just those breeds.

Good luck in your search
User avatar
Casper
Rank: 5X Champion
 
Posts: 1364
Joined: Thu May 12, 2005 10:46 pm
Location: northern nv

Postby gundogguru » Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:55 pm

With the kind of hunting you want to do I would go with the Griff. Have you considered a German wirehair. The Griff will make a better house dog and be easier to live with than a feild pointer. The griff will be more likley to work closer than the pointer will. Good luck.
gundogguru
 
Location: Please ADD LOCATION

Postby Ryan » Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:02 pm

I agree with gundogguru here. You should buy a closer working dog. Also even if you say you are not hutning waterfowl upland birds may go down into a pond or lake. The extra layer of coat helps keep them warm when they go in for them water retrieves.

Although depending on your location and weather the heavier coat my be a problem. So you may have to shave your dog in the summer to keep him/her cool.

Casper has hit the nail on the head. We cannot make you decision for you. You should go out and hunt or see quite a few dogs of both breeds work.

Big Steve lets stay with the breeds he is asking about here.
Ryan
 
Location: Please ADD LOCATION

Postby grousehunter08 » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:24 pm

Thats like compairing a corvette to a volvo. In general a pointer is high energy high drive, I have never seen a griffon range like a pointer not that they dont have the drive but they dont have the speed and in my opion the nose
grousehunter08
 
Location: Please ADD LOCATION

Postby Steve007 » Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:30 pm

grousehunter08 wrote:Thats like compairing a corvette to a volvo. In general a pointer is high energy high drive, I have never seen a griffon range like a pointer not that they dont have the drive but they dont have the speed and in my opion the nose


Yes. How important is style to you, and the adrenaline thrill you get when you see dog snap into a quivering focused solid point?

Are you a high-style thrill hunter or a meat hunter?
Steve007
Rank: Master Hunter
 
Posts: 261
Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:14 pm
Location: St. Louis, MO

Postby bean1031 » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:25 am

Ya Llewellins are great dogs!
User avatar
bean1031
Rank: 2X Champion
 
Posts: 425
Joined: Wed May 09, 2007 7:05 pm
Location: Kansas City

Postby BigShooter » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:34 am

If you will consider a wirehaired dog I will second the suggestion that based upon your criteria you consider the German Wirehaired Pointer.
BigShooter
GDF Junkie
 
Posts: 2515
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:20 pm
Location: Minnesota

Postby Greg Jennings » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:53 am

Did no one notice that this thread was 2 years old?

Greg J.
User avatar
Greg Jennings
GDF Junkie
 
Posts: 5734
Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:59 am
Location: Springboro, OH

Postby BigShooter » Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:21 am

Greg,

Good catch! Usually I watch for that but I'm sure I only looked at the reply date. :oops:

Mark
BigShooter
GDF Junkie
 
Posts: 2515
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:20 pm
Location: Minnesota

Postby lvrgsp » Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:01 am

Well by God he better have an update for us Greg, you can't just leave us hanging like that for two years.
So what did you get and how is it working out for ya?
Chip
lvrgsp
GDF Junkie
 
Posts: 2529
Joined: Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:12 am
Location: ILLA NOISE..................


Return to Polls

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

| Pedigrees

THIS POST : English Pointer or Wirehaired Pointing Griffon... brought to you by Gun Dog Supply: Dog Training Collars & Hunting Dog Supplies

Click here to tweet this post

  • NOT logged in
  • English Pointer or Wirehaired Pointing Griffon...
  • ./viewtopic.php?f=87&t=3782&start=0&sid=3a622caf8a9967a1111b4aaaee6b1337