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Neutering a GSP

Neutering a GSP

Postby triplethreat » Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:52 am

We have a 16 week old GSP pup who is exhibiting some aggression. Mainly it is when we are trying to get him to do something he doesn't want to do ( we wanted him to go outside and he wanted to stay in his bed, when I picked him up he growled). Today I took him to the vet and when she gave him a shot he growled. She suggested we get him neutered becuase this was a sign of dominance. She also suggested that if we are going to do it we should do it soon.

My questions are, will this help with the growling? ( He is not bearing his teeth or taking an aggessive stance when he does this.) When is the best time to get him neutered if we decide to do it? Will this affect his hunting instincts?

thanks for any info!
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Postby PA_Sportsman » Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:12 am

Not sure this is a neutering issue. Simply put, you need to assume the dominant role and not tolerate any growling, etc. If he does it, harshly put him on his back and assert your dominance over him. Hold him on his back until he stops struggling, ie, submits to you.
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Postby Ryan » Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:26 am

Yes I agree. My vet if she get so much as a bad look that dog is off the table on its back with her foot over itsneck. U need to do this too. As soon as that pup growls at you throw him down hard enough to put it through his head u r the boss then grab his through. Also when he is eats grab his food awa from him and growl back, baring your teeth. Walk through door first make him follw all these are way to over come a dog who thinks hes the boss.
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Postby triplethreat » Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:20 pm

We put him on his back when he starts getting dominant with us, he seems to be wise to this because the second we put him on his back he stops struggling and lays there, as soon as we let him up he goes back to doing what he was doing before. We keep putting him down, but he seems to just submit because he knows that he will be let up when he does.
Any other suggestions? I would be happy to hear them...
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Postby triplethreat » Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:28 pm

Sorry I forgot to add, I can take his food away from him at any time, he is not food aggressive at all. We have 2 other dogs and he is NOT the dominant dog in the house, nor is he aggressive with them. Neither one of the other dogs is aggessive. He does not snarl or bear his teeth. We do walk through doors first. The only aggressive or dominant behavior is the growling.
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Postby Ryan » Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:30 pm

Is it a growl or a moan. My setter makes amoan type noise when I wake her up to put her out almost sounds like a growl.
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Postby snips » Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:08 pm

I don`t like pinning a pup down to show dominance. I prefer picking a pup up by the nap of their neck and giving a shake if they get testy. Taking a dog off the ground puts a little fear in them. Vets think neutering fixes everything, ugh!
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Postby Ryan » Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:33 pm

Ya they just want you to nueter so there is ni unexpected littlers.
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Postby kninebirddog » Tue Oct 04, 2005 2:21 pm

I agree with Brenda

PIck up by scruff of neck bring the front legs off the ground and stare down. Older pups/dogs take the nape of neck from under both ears lifting up .....rolloing over only starts the roll down effect making things potentially worse for others dogs and people

Nuetering will not change aggression this is a learned behaviour which if not contended with will only get worse
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Postby TAK » Tue Oct 04, 2005 2:34 pm

Don't cut the dog until you know for sure what is going on. I have also had dogs that would growl or even snap at you and as soon as they matured and got the idea that I am king never ever did it again.
Don't rush things. 16 weeks is so puppy and they have not a clue how to get mad yet!
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Postby Casper » Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:33 pm

not sure if this would work but if you tie a small nylone cord (1/4 inch and about 10 ft. long) to his collar and when you want him t get up, go out side, do this, or do that you have a lead on him. If you are getting him up from his bed first pick up the lead take up any slack then call him if he refuses make him come by pullling him to you. What you would be accomplishing would be that he has no other choice than to do as you ask and you are getting the desired response of a latter command.

I have never tried this but it can work if done in a positive manner
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Postby AHGSP » Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:54 am

I'm with snips on this. When you take any dog off the ground, you have taken him out of his element and pretty well taken all defense from him giving him no other choice than to submit.
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Postby LookoutDog » Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:23 pm

From everything I've read and heard, you should avoid neutering your pup until he is physically mature. He needs the time for his skeletal and muscular development.
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Postby sudiegirl » Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:25 am

neutering can help male dog on male dog aggression.... not aggression towards people etc. i would just work with the pup to show him that he is NOT the pack leader, that you are. you don't have to be mean, just firm and consistent. good luck!!
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