Sam's Dog Food

ddoyle · Post by **ddoyle** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:14 pm

I have seen other threads on this...... what is the brand and type you all like?

mcbosco · Post by **mcbosco** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:33 pm

are you asking about the food at Sam's or just what people like in general?

wems2371 · Post by **wems2371** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:25 pm

I've fed the Chicken & Rice formula for a couple years now. I buy a couple bags at a time, and was a little disappointed when I went in last week, and saw the price had went up another $1. The dogs have done well on it though, so I'm not pushed to go and try something new quite yet. I haven't tried any of their other brands...

GUNDOGS · Post by **GUNDOGS** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:51 am

i dont have a sams here but i cant beat the deal i get at petsmart...its 65 bucks a bag for a 35 pound bag of PPP here, which to me is too much

so i print off a price match on the U.S site for petsmart and they will match it here so i pay 29.99 or a few bucks more depending on their price that day..i buy 4 bags at a time usually so its basically buy one bag get one free...ruth

ddoyle · Post by **ddoyle** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:33 pm

I am just looking for the brand at Sam's I have read all the other dog food threads! I have used Daimond with good results but am having a hard time finding it.
Thanks!

mcbosco · Post by **mcbosco** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:55 pm

I think people use Exceed 30% protein chicken & rice.

SubMariner · Post by **SubMariner** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:33 pm

ddoyle wrote:I am just looking for the brand at Sam's I have read all the other dog food threads! I have used Daimond with good results but am having a hard time finding it.
Thanks!

We used to feed the Exceed Chicken but the dog was up to 4 cups/day & loosing weight (plus putting out a lot of "excess"). So we switched to EVO Turkey & Chicken which is higher in protein. He needs less of it & it put muscle/weight on him within the first month.

wems2371 · Post by **wems2371** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:58 pm

ddoyle wrote:I am just looking for the brand at Sam's I have read all the other dog food threads! I have used Daimond with good results but am having a hard time finding it.
Thanks!

I fed Diamond a few years back and could usually find it at the DeWitt Theisens, or any Theisens for that matter. It was always on the shelf. I don't know which formula you are using, but you might try there if you already haven't.

Post by **Greg Jennings** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:08 am

I used to be a huge fan of Sam's Exceed. When they changed suppliers, though, it got hard to find, then there was a problem with the bags bleeding through early on. So, I ended up changing first to Native, then to Diamond Naturals...I feed the large breed puppy to both the adult dog and the young, crazy-energetic one with good results.

If the Exceed is readily available, cost effective and, most importantly, your dogs do well on it, it'd probably be great.

Wenaha · Post by **Wenaha** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:13 pm

GUNDOGS wrote:i dont have a sams here but i cant beat the deal i get at petsmart...its 65 bucks a bag for a 35 pound bag of PPP here, which to me is too much so i print off a price match on the U.S site for petsmart and they will match it here so i pay 29.99 or a few bucks more depending on their price that day..i buy 4 bags at a time usually so its basically buy one bag get one free...ruth

Holy shinola !! I buy a 37.5 lb. bag of PPP for <$40.00 --- Shop around.

mcbosco · Post by **mcbosco** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:03 pm

This food is now called Simply Right Exceed Chicken & Rice

GUNDOGS · Post by **GUNDOGS** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:46 pm

Wenaha wrote:
GUNDOGS wrote:i dont have a sams here but i cant beat the deal i get at petsmart...its 65 bucks a bag for a 35 pound bag of PPP here, which to me is too much so i print off a price match on the U.S site for petsmart and they will match it here so i pay 29.99 or a few bucks more depending on their price that day..i buy 4 bags at a time usually so its basically buy one bag get one free...ruth
Holy shinola !! I buy a 37.5 lb. bag of PPP for <$40.00 --- Shop around.

its more then that anywhere else

petsmart is the cheapest around here but getting it for 30 bucks is worth it with the price match

i have a cousin in ohio that feeds INNOVA and when i told her its 75 bucks a bag here she literally screamed "WHAT!!" in my ear

so i think she gets it cheaper in ohio

...ruth

mcbosco · Post by **mcbosco** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:00 am

GUNDOGS wrote:
Wenaha wrote:
GUNDOGS wrote:i dont have a sams here but i cant beat the deal i get at petsmart...its 65 bucks a bag for a 35 pound bag of PPP here, which to me is too much so i print off a price match on the U.S site for petsmart and they will match it here so i pay 29.99 or a few bucks more depending on their price that day..i buy 4 bags at a time usually so its basically buy one bag get one free...ruth
Holy shinola !! I buy a 37.5 lb. bag of PPP for <$40.00 --- Shop around.
its more then that anywhere else petsmart is the cheapest around here but getting it for 30 bucks is worth it with the price match i have a cousin in ohio that feeds INNOVA and when i told her its 75 bucks a bag here she literally screamed "WHAT!!" in my ear so i think she gets it cheaper in ohio ...ruth

well thats the price of "free" healthcare LOL

GUNDOGS · Post by **GUNDOGS** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:31 am

Well, yes we do pay 13% sales tax here.. FREE healthcare in the sense of the word that NO MONEY is charged for any medical service provided nor are you billed at a later date, in other words you dont have to budget for medical expenses and you dont have to sell your home if you get cancer..you can take your family to the clinic or doctor, hospital as well as any and all specialists and receive total medical attention and/or surgery at no charge because you do pay the 13% sales tax..let me ask you, what do you pay in sales tax mcbosco?? say 6, 8 or 11% and would you not pay the extra percent on each dollar to ensure you and your family never ever have to worry about getting charged for blood work, a catscan, an MRI, surgery, deliver a child, mammograms, xrays, ultrasounds, EKG, EEG, heart stress tests, and the list goes on of services provided..and this is a right to any and all people not just if your working or not and not just if youre lucky enough to get a job that provideds it..poor or rich you get the same medical care as the next just like you get the same police, fire dept and ambulance..i could tell you without a doubt that i wouldnt lower my taxes to say 8% and give it all up, with 5 kids i can guarantee you ive used more then ive paid into for medical expenses for my family..and i could also tell you most of my family lives in the U.S and some havent seen a doctor for a long time because they cant afford to go, my sister cant afford blood work at 65 bucks every other month for her thyroid testing yet my daughter has never had to pay for hers with having the same condition, thats frustrating to me..my sister would love to be able to simply get blood work and should be able to but the airport she works at doesnt cover her and her hole 6 bucks an hour dont allow her to save for it...so ya things cost more here and i try to get the best deals i can when i shop, of course trying to keep as much money in my wallet as possible but some things are simply priceless and to me and my family health care is one of those things..also you dont think its the canadian government that determines the prices of things here do you?? its the manufacturer that charges the amounts here to make the extra money off of canadians, the government only gets the 13% tax which even on a hundred buck is only 13 dollars so if the manufactures didnt gouge us and would charge less here we would pay less..one doesnt have much to do with the other really but i will bite on your comment, but then you knew that right

take care, ruth

Post by **ezzy333** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:28 pm

Why do you feel the manufactures are gouging you? Might it be that if it is made in Canada they have to pay more taxes and if it is made in the states or any other country then they have the import fees that Canada charges them?

I would love to have free health care but there is no such thing. And when anything is free people abuse it and go when they don't need to and then the people who do need it can't get it without standing in line in much of the country so they end up coming here to get the care they need NOW.

I just have trouble thinking everyone should have to pay for my care. And we all know when you start offering free and the government will pay for it you know that can not be as efficient since they have to pay for all of the people who handle the money. Sounds great but we all see the results. Nope, not my cup of tea.

Ezzy

SubMariner · Post by **SubMariner** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:17 pm

GUNDOGS wrote:also you dont think its the canadian government that determines the prices of things here do you?? its the manufacturer that charges the amounts here to make the extra money off of canadians, the government only gets the 13% tax which even on a hundred buck is only 13 dollars so if the manufactures didnt gouge us and would charge less here we would pay less..one doesnt have much to do with the other really but i will bite on your comment, but then you knew that right take care, ruth

Exactly.

Over the past year Canadians have complained (and rightly so) that goods were STILL more expensive in Canada despite the fact that the Canadian dollar was worth MORE than its American counterpart.

There is no explanation for that except price gouging. Which the mfg's do all by themselves with no help from anyone else, TYVM.

Post by **ezzy333** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:28 pm

SubMariner wrote:
GUNDOGS wrote:also you dont think its the canadian government that determines the prices of things here do you?? its the manufacturer that charges the amounts here to make the extra money off of canadians, the government only gets the 13% tax which even on a hundred buck is only 13 dollars so if the manufactures didnt gouge us and would charge less here we would pay less..one doesnt have much to do with the other really but i will bite on your comment, but then you knew that right take care, ruth
Exactly.

Over the past year Canadians have complained (and rightly so) that goods were STILL more expensive in Canada despite the fact that the Canadian dollar was worth MORE than its American counterpart.

There is no explanation for that except price gouging. Which the mfg's do all by themselves with no help from anyone else, TYVM.

Gee thought I maybe had some idea what goes on since we have to import a lot of stuff into Ontario over the years we have been in business there. But I had no idea that someone in Flordia had the complete accurate knowledge of what the manufactures have been doing to Canada over the years. I admit I have no knowledge what others are doing but I do know all of the products we imported and exported back and forth were fairly priced but the cost of crossing the border was a problem. But then I learn something new everyday.

Ezzy

GUNDOGS · Post by **GUNDOGS** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:58 pm

ezzy the reason why someone may go stateside to get medical attention as you said "NOW" may be because out of lets say a million people only a hundred thousand can afford to go to the doctor and thats why you dont have any wait periods, most people are just suffering or living with their illnesses as opposed to going to the doctor, where as EVERYONE here is entitled to see a doctor and not only see one for treatment but for prevention as well, so you are definitely going to have to wait for appts but not an unrealistic wait time and life threatening issues are always dealt with quickly from my experiences especially with my mom and all the cancers shes had..Why do i feel manufactures are gouging? because they are, they can get 65 bucks a bag for dog food here so they do, they cant it somewhere else therefore they dont charge that much for it, you mean to tell me youve never noticed pricing differences on the same product depending on the area?? by the way who do you think pays for the healthcare over there when people ditch their bill?? if someone gets medical attention and dont pay the money comes from somewhere and its very common practice to ditch a bill there..the thing here is we ALL pay the taxes and we ALL get the care, nobody carries the weight of someone elses medical bills, whether you are rich or poor, have a mansion and a great job or live in low income housing and are unemployed you are entitled to the same doctor, the same tests, the same prevention and the same treatments which is how it should be..if your house is on fire, do you think the fire dept should look and see how much money you have and what job you are in before putting out the fire or saving your life?? makes no sense to do that with healthcare either.. i have lived here 35 years and i do have many relatives in the U.S so i can only speak from actual experiences and i will say that with owning our own construction company and having 5 kids we would be bankrupt if we would have decided to move to the U.S to be with family cause with the medical issues myself and 2 of my kids have had we would have lost our business, lost or had to mortgage our home and my kids surely wouldnt be in college right now (3 of them) because i would be dirt poor and sick without the healthcare my family and i are blessed enough to have, that is a fact and certainly is my cup of tea...ruth

Big Dave · Post by **Big Dave** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:19 pm

So what is the protein and fat levels in the new chicken and rice formula at Sam's Club?

mcbosco · Post by **mcbosco** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:23 pm

The new Exceed is 30/16 and about 65 cents lb in NJ. Someone told me BJ's has a good one.

bossman · Post by **bossman** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:24 pm

Just seems to me there have been too many "issues" with dog food coming from Sam's in the past. Based on previous discussions on the board, thats a feed that will never make it into the feed bowls in our house. jmo...

SubMariner · Post by **SubMariner** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:22 pm

ezzy333 wrote:
SubMariner wrote:
GUNDOGS wrote:also you dont think its the canadian government that determines the prices of things here do you?? its the manufacturer that charges the amounts here to make the extra money off of canadians, the government only gets the 13% tax which even on a hundred buck is only 13 dollars so if the manufactures didnt gouge us and would charge less here we would pay less..one doesnt have much to do with the other really but i will bite on your comment, but then you knew that right take care, ruth
Exactly.

Over the past year Canadians have complained (and rightly so) that goods were STILL more expensive in Canada despite the fact that the Canadian dollar was worth MORE than its American counterpart.

There is no explanation for that except price gouging. Which the mfg's do all by themselves with no help from anyone else, TYVM.

Gee thought I maybe had some idea what goes on since we have to import a lot of stuff into Ontario over the years we have been in business there. But I had no idea that someone in Flordia had the complete accurate knowledge of what the manufactures have been doing to Canada over the years. I admit I have no knowledge what others are doing but I do know all of the products we imported and exported back and forth were fairly priced but the cost of crossing the border was a problem. But then I learn something new everyday.

Ezzy

Well, perhaps the fact that I was born & raised in Ontario might have something to do with it. Oh yeah, and the 8 years I spent in Atlanta with an international company that had manufacturing & distributing in Canada, the US, England, Ireland, Sweden, Italy, Germany....

NAFTA may also have slipped your mind: no tariffs or duties on things manufactured in the US, Canada, or Mexico. Crossing the border really isn't an issue, especially when you consider that Canada is America's largest trading partner. And FOB Toronto really isn't much different than FOB Buffalo as there are multiple shipping options by rail and even truck that keep transportation costs fairly reasonable.

The Canadian dollar has been strong enough over the past year for US manufacturers to stop using the "weak Loonie" as an excuse for higher prices. But Canadians are still paying way over what Americans are for the same goods, despite this fact. It really needs to be addressed.

displaced_texan · Post by **displaced_texan** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:01 pm

GUNDOGS wrote:my sister would love to be able to simply get blood work and should be able to but the airport she works at doesnt cover her and her hole 6 bucks an hour dont allow her to save for it..

The airport pays her less than minimum wage?

GUNDOGS · Post by **GUNDOGS** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:01 am

displaced_texan wrote:
GUNDOGS wrote:my sister would love to be able to simply get blood work and should be able to but the airport she works at doesnt cover her and her hole 6 bucks an hour dont allow her to save for it..
The airport pays her less than minimum wage?

yes, because she has the "ability" to make tips pushing wheel chairs up the jetway and to baggage claim..which she does make some tips some times, she makes on average about 6 bucks a day :roll: the guys who stand at the entrance to the airport and take your luggage for you and load it on the carts or put in your car for you when you leave make a big 2 bucks an hour because they make tips too, no union for them they work for a company within the airport called PROSPECT they along with my sister are not employed by the airport...ruth

lvrgsp · Post by **lvrgsp** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:08 pm

Switched the lab to Canidae, and love it....the shorthairs are still on PPP, its consistant and I can get it anywhere for the most part....

displaced_texan · Post by **displaced_texan** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:13 pm

GUNDOGS wrote:
displaced_texan wrote:
GUNDOGS wrote:my sister would love to be able to simply get blood work and should be able to but the airport she works at doesnt cover her and her hole 6 bucks an hour dont allow her to save for it..
The airport pays her less than minimum wage?
yes, because she has the "ability" to make tips pushing wheel chairs up the jetway and to baggage claim..which she does make some tips some times, she makes on average about 6 bucks a day :roll: the guys who stand at the entrance to the airport and take your luggage for you and load it on the carts or put in your car for you when you leave make a big 2 bucks an hour because they make tips too, no union for them they work for a company within the airport called PROSPECT they along with my sister are not employed by the airport...ruth

Not to derail, but that's insane... I always just carry my own bags. Other people walk to slow!

GUNDOGS · Post by **GUNDOGS** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:20 pm

maybe thats the reason she only makes 6 bucks a day in tips

..ruth

ultracarry · Post by **ultracarry** » Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:33 pm

Won't feed box store food to the dog... fed Innova EVO with great results. After my dog went on her trip to the nationals she has been switched to diamond extreme athlete. No problems but once or twice a week she has been known to clear the room. Will probably mix the two and see what I get....

Redfishkilla · Post by **Redfishkilla** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:46 am

What happened to my dig on this one? Moderators remove it? A note and explanation would be courteous.

Redfishkilla · Post by **Redfishkilla** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:57 am

So somebody can remove a post without any explanation to the poster? The person who removed it must feel it's a questionable decision because they won’t claim it. Real classy.

mcbosco · Post by **mcbosco** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:33 am

Redfishkilla wrote:So somebody can remove a post without any explanation to the poster? The person who removed it must feel it's a questionable decision because they won’t claim it. Real classy.

If I remember correctly you posted that you would never use a private-label, big box store food,, right? Well I agree with you.

Now yours was removed, I get nasty PM's all the time. Not sure what is worse.

Redfishkilla · Post by **Redfishkilla** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:46 am

No, I made fun of ultras GSP's stinky flagellants. It's not a big deal I just want someone to own up to removing my post.

SubMariner · Post by **SubMariner** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:41 pm

Redfishkilla wrote:So somebody can remove a post without any explanation to the poster? The person who removed it must feel it's a questionable decision because they won’t claim it. Real classy.

Common practice when a post goes AWOL is to PM a Mod; ranting about it in a public forum is counterproductive.

Redfishkilla · Post by **Redfishkilla** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:56 pm

Shouldn't a mod pm me? Or is it common practice to take down posts without any explantion or comment? If so, that's weak.

proudag08 · Post by **proudag08** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:35 pm

Politics enters the discussion... thread derailed... topic highjacked... uneeded comment made... complaints about the mods... this thread will be locked in no time...

Same song. Different tune.

helpful_cub · Post by **helpful_cub** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:10 pm

Inspired by this thread I switched my GSP to Exceed 30% chicken/rice about a week ago. He was on Nutro high energy.

Observations:
-Fair amount cheaper. Exceed was ~$30 for 44 lbs while the Nutro was around $45 for 35 lbs.
-My GSP was obsessed with getting at the Exceed food. He was way more interested in it than his other stuff. I'm guessing it smells better to him.
-The larger bag doesn't fit in my dog safe food container with the spin on lid. So I've storing the rest of the bag in the garage away from the dog's access.
-Bites are bigger pieces. I wish they were a little smaller so they won't be so rough on his tummy. He tends to burp more and eat a little faster.
-The bites are a little more greasy looking. If you touch them you can feel the grease on your skin. It doesn't wash off easily. The Nutro was really clean and dry.
-Gas production is up and more acidic. On Nutro when he passes gas you smell it but its nothing terrible. On the Exceed it kind of burns your noise and seems more acid. He also seems to do it more often.
-More food craving. I'm not sure why but it seems like he wants to eat a lot more often now that he's on Exceed. I've even been added green beans to the feed to try and keep him full. It may be moving to fast through his system. (would explain the gas)
-Droppings are consistent, a little more greasy looking than before. I'm guessing he's more lubricated now.

So for what its worth. That's my findings so far.

wems2371 · Post by **wems2371** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:46 pm

I have one very fast eater too. She use to be free fed, but as she got older and put on a little weight, I had to start rationing and that seemed to make her greedy. Could be the new food, taste, etc that has your dog gobbling it down. If mine gets to eating too fast, my vet recommended feeding in a muffin pan, and that works great. If you have a fast eater, you'll have burping.

Amazingly my dogs don't have much for gas issues. They still let one rip from time to time, but it's rare that we notice.

FWIW I feed 2.5 cups a day per dog, split into 2 feedings. One shorthair is 52 lbs and the older one is 62 lbs. That seems to work for both of them, but I'll fluctuate a little if I see a weight difference I don't like. I would think a person would have to do that with any food brand. If they are hunting hard, like during the trip we took, I was giving them 4+ cups per day. I did that for about a week after we got home, and then tapered them back down to their normal ration.

Both dogs have nice looking coats, and the younger one also shows in conformation. Both are fit field dogs that have no problem logging 25 miles in a full day of hunting.

I am going to have to go with Greg's quote. You can get positive and negative reactions from folks, no matter what food you feed, so that's got to be the bottom line regardless of the brand.

If the Exceed is readily available, cost effective and, most importantly, your dogs do well on it, it'd probably be great.

shtank · Post by **shtank** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:31 pm

They use to have a lamb and rice that was a great dog food. Not cheap though!

brad27 · Post by **brad27** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:13 pm

Redfishkilla wrote:Shouldn't a mod pm me? Or is it common practice to take down posts without any explantion or comment? If so, that's weak.

Or, you should grow up and realize what you said was out of line and leave it at that. Much like my post.

Redfishkilla · Post by **Redfishkilla** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:20 am

Brad, you think a dumb fart joke, is "out of line"? OK. Were ultra's feelings hurt? Did he complain? Sorry Ultra, didn't mean to hurt your feelings with a fart joke. Hope you fully recover. Still no one has owned up, I'm sure the person who took it down could make a case that they had legit reasons to remove it ie "off topic or whatever", but you'd think they'd at least claim it. Now it's just funny.

displaced_texan · Post by **displaced_texan** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:45 am

Redfishkilla wrote:So somebody can remove a post without any explanation to the poster? The person who removed it must feel it's a questionable decision because they won’t claim it. Real classy.

Some forums they just pull it.

General courtesy is to PM the poster an explanation.

ultracarry · Post by **ultracarry** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:06 am

I like a good fart joke .... just not the fart. So it looks like ill be switching foods or using the diamond as a filler and mix the two... see if that filters it and makes it smell better. Nothing like ruining a good movie because you skimped on the price of dog food.

Redfishkilla · Post by **Redfishkilla** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:10 am

Bean-O?

ultracarry · Post by **ultracarry** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:16 am

Thought about it.

Don't worry my posts get deleted from time to time. But I usually get some hate mail.also.

displaced_texan · Post by **displaced_texan** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:57 pm

ultracarry wrote:Thought about it.

Don't worry my posts get deleted from time to time. But I usually get some hate mail.also.

Way I figure, if you never ruffle any feathers you never really say anything.

Some places just let you say more. (Don't start the slander lawsuit nonsense.)