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Dog food spreadsheet

Post by brad27 » Thu May 03, 2012 9:37 am

I'm putting together a spreadsheet on the cost per day for feeding different dog foods. I will email it to anyone that wants it after it's finished. What are you guys feeding and what would you like to see added to the list? The fields will be modifiable, so you can adjust for local price for feed and your dog's kcal requirement. This is what it will basically look like after it is finished.
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Post by MNGSP » Thu May 03, 2012 9:48 am

I a currently feeding Nutrisource adult grain free chicken.
4,120 kcal per kg, 473 kcal per cup 30# bags for $38/bag

This looks like a very useful tool. Thanks for taking the time to put it together and share.

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Post by hpvizslas » Thu May 03, 2012 9:53 am

Great idea, I am feeding Native Level 3, price is about $1/lb

http://www.nativedogfood.com/energy-level-3/

I would be interested in seeing the end results.
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Post by RoostersMom » Thu May 03, 2012 11:11 am

Can you add Pro Pac to the list?

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Post by ACooper » Thu May 03, 2012 11:29 am

Oh Brad what have you done? Looks like you wont be short of additional work! :lol: :lol:

How about adding some of the Black Gold offerings and Pro Plan Performance.

Good stuff.

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Post by mcbosco » Thu May 03, 2012 11:56 am

Add Annamaet Ultra

$55 per 40lbs is about right. 4,228 per Kg and 480 cup.

Question, do you have the weight per cup of food for each formula?

Are you assuming each dog needs 1200 calories per day? If that is the case I think you have to calculate the cost based on weight fed not by cup volume, each food has different density and kibble size and shape.

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Canidae please

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Post by brad27 » Thu May 03, 2012 12:39 pm

Are you assuming each dog needs 1200 calories per day?
The dogs kcal requirement is based on what you currently feed, so if you feed 2.5 cups of Annamaet Ultra your dog needs 1200 kcals per day. 3 cups equals 1440 kcals. I know it's not exact, but should be pretty close. I also know not all dogs use the kcals the same way and not all dog foods have all kcals available due to ingredents, but again, it should be close.

Question, do you have the weight per cup of food for each formula?
nope. Everything is based on kcals. So a 40lbs bag of Annament Ultra is 18.14kg or 76,695.92 kcals.

So, cost per day = (price per bag)/((lbs per bag/2.2) X (kcal per kg/dogs kcal need))

cups per day = dogs kcal need/kcal per cup

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Post by brad27 » Thu May 03, 2012 12:46 pm

For those of us with 1 or two dogs spending an extra $1.50 or $3 dollars a month doesn't really matter but if you had a kennel of 15 you could be saving $25 a month by feeding a different, but still good, feed.

And yes, I have alot of time on my hands. :lol:

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Post by BigShooter » Thu May 03, 2012 12:50 pm

Sure - add digestibility, usable vs. available kcals/cup. Sorry - couldn't resist. :P :lol:
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brad27 wrote:
Are you assuming each dog needs 1200 calories per day?
The dogs kcal requirement is based on what you currently feed, so if you feed 2.5 cups of Annamaet Ultra your dog needs 1200 kcals per day. 3 cups equals 1440 kcals. I know it's not exact, but should be pretty close. I also know not all dogs use the kcals the same way and not all dog foods have all kcals available due to ingredents, but again, it should be close.

Question, do you have the weight per cup of food for each formula?
nope. Everything is based on kcals. So a 40lbs bag of Annament Ultra is 18.14kg or 76,695.92 kcals.

So, cost per day = (price per bag)/((lbs per bag/2.2) X (kcal per kg/dogs kcal need))

cups per day = dogs kcal need/kcal per cup

@ $55 bag and 3 cups, I calculate $1.02 day. 3 cups is 12 ounces of food @ 8.5 cents per ounce.

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Post by brad27 » Thu May 03, 2012 1:47 pm

where did you find weight per cup?

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Post by mcbosco » Thu May 03, 2012 1:55 pm

brad27 wrote:where did you find weight per cup?
On the website - 4 ozs.

Some are heavier, like Dr. Tim's Pursuit is 4.13 ozs per cup, on the website as well.

Both have virtually the same calories by cup, 480 vs 481

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Post by Fireside » Thu May 03, 2012 3:51 pm

add Taste of the Wild please

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Post by jwnissen » Thu May 03, 2012 5:59 pm

Blue Buffalo wilderness please. This is an awsome idea especially for those of us doing a lot of reasearch on what to feed our dogs. Thank you.

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Post by BigShooter » Thu May 03, 2012 6:14 pm

Good idea for a spreadsheet. Here's one of our food threads that goes a bit more in depth about differences in food & more accurate calculations by weight instead of volume: viewtopic.php?f=88&t=22996&hilit=weight
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Post by mcbosco » Thu May 03, 2012 7:01 pm

I would add Victor High Pro Plus. That will be a very popular food soon.

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Post by bossman » Thu May 03, 2012 7:22 pm

What a great offer. This is information we can all use. Please pm me your address. Would like to send you a gift certificate to a restaurant , LL Bean, Cabela's or whatever. Very generous of you...Hey mcbosco...thanks for throwing Victor in the group.

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Post by Garrison » Thu May 03, 2012 7:35 pm

Very cool, Brad and Bossman!

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Very cool of you to do this for us!

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Buckeye Performance 30/20 please.

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Post by brad27 » Fri May 04, 2012 5:32 pm

ok, so far I have these. Let me know what else you guys want to see.
Diamond
Hi Energy 24/20
Adult 26/18
Chicken & Rice 26/16
Extreme Athlete 32/25
Performance 30/20

Dr. Tim's
Momentum 35/25
Pursuit 30/20

Evo
Red Meat 44/23
Salmon 42/18
Turkey & Chicken 43/22

Loyall
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Hi Pro 24/20
Professional 31/20

Nutro
High Energy 30/20

Joy
Pro High Energy 24/20

Nutri Source
Performance 30/20
Super Performance 32/21
Adult 26/16
Grain Free Chicken 28/18

Native
Level 1 24/14
Level 2 26/16
Level 3 30/20
Level 4 35/25

Pro Pac
High Performance 30/20
Adult Chunk 26/15
Adult Chicken & Rice 22/12

Purina
PP Performance 30/20
PP Chicken & Rice 26/16

Black Gold
Super Blend 30/20
Performance Blend 26/18
Field Trial Blend 24/18
Trainers Blend 24/12
Professional Blend 23/16

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Option 24/13
Encore 25/14
Extra 26/14

Canidae
All Life Stages 24/15
Chicken & Rice 26/16
Lamb & Rice 21/13
Beef & Fish 24/12

Taste Of The Wild
High Pairie 32/18
Pacific Stream 25/15
Sierra Mountain 25/15
Wetlands 32/18

Blue Buffalo
Wilderness Chicken 34/15
Wilderness Duck 34/15
Wilderness Salmon 34/15
Chicken & Brown Rice 24/14
Lamb & Brown Rice 22/12
Fish & Sweet Potato 22/12

Victor
All Life Stages 33/16
Joint Health 33/16
Ultra Professional 42/22
Chicken Rice Lamb 22/12
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Professional 26/18
Performance Plus 26/18
Hi-Energy 24/20

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Post by mcbosco » Fri May 04, 2012 5:52 pm

Eukanuba Premium 30/20

Enhance (there are 4)

Eagle Power Pack

Nutrisource 30/20

Tuffy Gold 30/20

These would be good to add.

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Post by ACooper » Fri May 04, 2012 6:50 pm

How about ol'roy? LMFAO kidding

will you shoot me a copy when you get a chance?

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My mistake, its Buckeye Super Bits.

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ROFLMBO Is that a real food?
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ACooper wrote:How about ol'roy? LMFAO kidding

will you shoot me a copy when you get a chance?

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Don't be hatin on Roy :lol: Fed some "bleep" good dogs back in the day.....

Had some real good luck with the Eagle Pac Power, just didn't agree with one of mine but otherwise seemed like a great feed
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Post by HDAU » Sat May 05, 2012 7:06 pm

Can you add SportMix Energy Plus 24/20? It is This is Great! It is 552 K/cal per cup, 4,268 k/cal per KG. I just gave up on Diamond from all of the scares lately and changed to a combination of PP Performance and the Sportmix.

Thank you! This is a great idea!

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birddog1968 wrote:
ACooper wrote:How about ol'roy? LMFAO kidding

will you shoot me a copy when you get a chance?

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Don't be hatin on Roy :lol: Fed some "bleep" good dogs back in the day.....
Thats what we feed when I was a kid.

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bossman wrote:What a great offer. This is information we can all use. Please pm me your address. Would like to send you a gift certificate to a restaurant , LL Bean, Cabela's or whatever. Very generous of you...Hey mcbosco...thanks for throwing Victor in the group.
Thank you for the offer, but I can't accept. This is a gift to the forum.

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Post by bossman » Sat May 05, 2012 9:58 pm

Well, as Rudyard Kipling once said..."Your a better man than I Gunga Din"...This is a tremendous effort on your part. I am sure ever one on the forum greatly appreciates you unselfish contribution. Many thanks!

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bossman wrote:Well, as Rudyard Kipling once said..."Your a better man than I Gunga Din"...This is a tremendous effort on your part. I am sure ever one on the forum greatly appreciates you unselfish contribution. Many thanks!
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Post by ultracarry » Sun May 06, 2012 9:50 am

Brad you should also give us a report on stools.. feed and measure, collect after digestion,.dehydrate, and weigh.. this should give us some insight in how digestable the food is.

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You should have omega 3 fatty acids, omega 6/3 ratio and ash levels.

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Post by bossman » Sun May 06, 2012 12:28 pm

Ultra..Please tell me there shoud be a :D after your last post. Isn't that stuff we can be doing? Man, brad is doing us a favor. Don't think he's trying to turn it into a full time job. Hey, your out there on the beautiful "left" coast. Why don't you go up there (or down there) and give him a hand? :)

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Post by ultracarry » Mon May 07, 2012 8:38 am

Brad was planning on finding a project to do.... He added another dog for his off work time and wanted something extra to do on his breaks and lunch (instead of BSing with me). I think he found his match. Maybe if we all pitched in we could find a cheap dehydrator.... Lol

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Post by Blue Horn » Mon May 07, 2012 8:43 am

Has anyone ever tried 4Life? I found it at Tractor Supply. The cost is good and there appear to be no fillers. The first listed item is meat and there is no corn. It appears to be very similar to Blue Buffalo and taste of the wild.

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Please add ( PZAZZ 26 - 18) Active dog formula
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Blue Horn wrote:Has anyone ever tried 4Life? I found it at Tractor Supply. The cost is good and there appear to be no fillers. The first listed item is meat and there is no corn. It appears to be very similar to Blue Buffalo and taste of the wild.
Please tell us what you consider a filler?

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ultracarry wrote:Brad was planning on finding a project to do.... He added another dog for his off work time and wanted something extra to do on his breaks and lunch (instead of BSing with me). I think he found his match. Maybe if we all pitched in we could find a cheap dehydrator.... Lol
I have plenty things I want to do. I need add on to the pigeon coop, build a flight pen for chukar, WE need to go out and install that quail guzzer we were talking about, build another roading rig for the quad for that second dog. All those things cost money. This is free. :P

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Post by Garrison » Mon May 07, 2012 1:52 pm

So this is just "Filler"! :lol:

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Blue Horn wrote:Has anyone ever tried 4Life? I found it at Tractor Supply. The cost is good and there appear to be no fillers. The first listed item is meat and there is no corn. It appears to be very similar to Blue Buffalo and taste of the wild.
Do you mean 4Health?

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Post by ultracarry » Mon May 07, 2012 2:08 pm

Brad you forgot to add..... Buy Garrison a puppy and put it in his back yard.......

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MNGSP wrote:I a currently feeding Nutrisource adult grain free chicken.
4,120 kcal per kg, 473 kcal per cup 30# bags for $38/bag

This looks like a very useful tool. Thanks for taking the time to put it together and share.

JJ
That looks like a nice formula with no fillers. Good price. That company also make lots of human foods so they probably have good quality control standards.

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Post by MNGSP » Tue May 08, 2012 8:51 am

mcbosco wrote:That looks like a nice formula with no fillers. Good price. That company also make lots of human foods so they probably have good quality control standards.
My dogs are doing well on it. Nice coats, firm/compact stool, and they maintain well on it without having to eat a ton. My 7 year old female (52 Lbs.) gets 2 cups a day and my 15 month old male (48 Lbs) gets around 3 cups a day. Both dogs are fairly active getting 2 or 3 - 90 minute free runs a week with training and other activities mixed in. I'm hoping my male will taper down a bit after he's done growing.

In other words, I'm happy with the feed.

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Post by claybuster_aa » Wed May 09, 2012 9:13 pm

Abady Classic Granular. 40-lb box. $78 (price can vary depending upon where you shop). Rest of the info found here: http://therobertabadydogfoodcoltd.com/A ... ngredl.htm
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claybuster_aa wrote:Abady Classic Granular. 40-lb box. $78 (price can vary depending upon where you shop). Rest of the info found here: http://therobertabadydogfoodcoltd.com/A ... ngredl.htm
Good call

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Post by 4dabirds » Thu May 10, 2012 4:15 pm

This is an interesting concept. How will you quantify the quality control of each product? Do all of the companies measure the statistics in a uniform manner? If a company says there product is X % chicken by weight , do they measure the chicken wet then dehydrate the chicken with the fillers thus changing the percentage of chicken in the product. Where do they source there meat products ? Are they sourcing products from foreign countries without the same quality controls we have here in the U.S. .Are they rejected for human consumption? What is their record for products that have been recalled? I would greatly appreciate the answer to all of these questions. I have more but but these ought to keep you busy for a while!!!

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