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I'm putting together a spreadsheet on the cost per day for feeding different dog foods. I will email it to anyone that wants it after it's finished. What are you guys feeding and what would you like to see added to the list? The fields will be modifiable, so you can adjust for local price for feed and your dog's kcal requirement. This is what it will basically look like after it is finished.

Purina Pro Plan http://www.proplan.com/dry-dog-food/per ... fault.aspx
Joy Performance/High Energy http://www.joypetfood.com/highenergy.html

I a currently feeding Nutrisource adult grain free chicken.
4,120 kcal per kg, 473 kcal per cup 30# bags for $38/bag

This looks like a very useful tool. Thanks for taking the time to put it together and share.

JJ

Great idea, I am feeding Native Level 3, price is about $1/lb

http://www.nativedogfood.com/energy-level-3/

I would be interested in seeing the end results.
Thanks

Can you add Pro Pac to the list?

Oh Brad what have you done? Looks like you wont be short of additional work!

How about adding some of the Black Gold offerings and Pro Plan Performance.

Good stuff.

Add Annamaet Ultra

$55 per 40lbs is about right. 4,228 per Kg and 480 cup.

Question, do you have the weight per cup of food for each formula?

Are you assuming each dog needs 1200 calories per day? If that is the case I think you have to calculate the cost based on weight fed not by cup volume, each food has different density and kibble size and shape.

Canidae please

Are you assuming each dog needs 1200 calories per day?

The dogs kcal requirement is based on what you currently feed, so if you feed 2.5 cups of Annamaet Ultra your dog needs 1200 kcals per day. 3 cups equals 1440 kcals. I know it's not exact, but should be pretty close. I also know not all dogs use the kcals the same way and not all dog foods have all kcals available due to ingredents, but again, it should be close.

Question, do you have the weight per cup of food for each formula?

nope. Everything is based on kcals. So a 40lbs bag of Annament Ultra is 18.14kg or 76,695.92 kcals.

So, cost per day = (price per bag)/((lbs per bag/2.2) X (kcal per kg/dogs kcal need))

cups per day = dogs kcal need/kcal per cup

For those of us with 1 or two dogs spending an extra $1.50 or $3 dollars a month doesn't really matter but if you had a kennel of 15 you could be saving $25 a month by feeding a different, but still good, feed.

And yes, I have alot of time on my hands.

Sure - add digestibility, usable vs. available kcals/cup. Sorry - couldn't resist.

brad27 wrote:

Are you assuming each dog needs 1200 calories per day?

The dogs kcal requirement is based on what you currently feed, so if you feed 2.5 cups of Annamaet Ultra your dog needs 1200 kcals per day. 3 cups equals 1440 kcals. I know it's not exact, but should be pretty close. I also know not all dogs use the kcals the same way and not all dog foods have all kcals available due to ingredents, but again, it should be close.

Question, do you have the weight per cup of food for each formula?

nope. Everything is based on kcals. So a 40lbs bag of Annament Ultra is 18.14kg or 76,695.92 kcals.

So, cost per day = (price per bag)/((lbs per bag/2.2) X (kcal per kg/dogs kcal need))

cups per day = dogs kcal need/kcal per cup

@ $55 bag and 3 cups, I calculate $1.02 day. 3 cups is 12 ounces of food @ 8.5 cents per ounce.

where did you find weight per cup?

brad27 wrote:where did you find weight per cup?

On the website - 4 ozs.

Some are heavier, like Dr. Tim's Pursuit is 4.13 ozs per cup, on the website as well.

Both have virtually the same calories by cup, 480 vs 481

add Taste of the Wild please

Blue Buffalo wilderness please. This is an awsome idea especially for those of us doing a lot of reasearch on what to feed our dogs. Thank you.

Good idea for a spreadsheet. Here's one of our food threads that goes a bit more in depth about differences in food & more accurate calculations by weight instead of volume: viewtopic.php?f=88&t=22996&hilit=weight

I would add Victor High Pro Plus. That will be a very popular food soon.

What a great offer. This is information we can all use. Please pm me your address. Would like to send you a gift certificate to a restaurant , LL Bean, Cabela's or whatever. Very generous of you...Hey mcbosco...thanks for throwing Victor in the group.

Very cool, Brad and Bossman!

Very cool of you to do this for us!

Corry

Buckeye Performance 30/20 please.

ok, so far I have these. Let me know what else you guys want to see.
Diamond
Hi Energy 24/20
Adult 26/18
Chicken & Rice 26/16
Extreme Athlete 32/25
Performance 30/20

Dr. Tim's
Momentum 35/25
Pursuit 30/20

Evo
Red Meat 44/23
Salmon 42/18
Turkey & Chicken 43/22

Loyall
Actice Adult 26/19
Hi Pro 24/20
Professional 31/20

Nutro
High Energy 30/20

Joy
Pro High Energy 24/20

Nutri Source
Performance 30/20
Super Performance 32/21
Adult 26/16
Grain Free Chicken 28/18

Native
Level 1 24/14
Level 2 26/16
Level 3 30/20
Level 4 35/25

Pro Pac
High Performance 30/20
Adult Chunk 26/15
Adult Chicken & Rice 22/12

Purina
PP Performance 30/20
PP Chicken & Rice 26/16

Black Gold
Super Blend 30/20
Performance Blend 26/18
Field Trial Blend 24/18
Trainers Blend 24/12
Professional Blend 23/16

Annamaet
Ultra 32/20
Option 24/13
Encore 25/14
Extra 26/14

Canidae
All Life Stages 24/15
Chicken & Rice 26/16
Lamb & Rice 21/13
Beef & Fish 24/12

Taste Of The Wild
High Pairie 32/18
Pacific Stream 25/15
Sierra Mountain 25/15
Wetlands 32/18

Blue Buffalo
Wilderness Chicken 34/15
Wilderness Duck 34/15
Wilderness Salmon 34/15
Chicken & Brown Rice 24/14
Lamb & Brown Rice 22/12
Fish & Sweet Potato 22/12

Victor
All Life Stages 33/16
Joint Health 33/16
Ultra Professional 42/22
Chicken Rice Lamb 22/12
Hi Pro Plus 30/20
Professional 26/18
Performance Plus 26/18
Hi-Energy 24/20

Buckeye
Hi Performance

Eukanuba Premium 30/20

Enhance (there are 4)

Eagle Power Pack

Nutrisource 30/20

Tuffy Gold 30/20

These would be good to add.

How about ol'roy? LMFAO kidding

will you shoot me a copy when you get a chance?

andy.r.cooper at gmail.com

My mistake, its Buckeye Super Bits.

ROFLMBO Is that a real food?

ACooper wrote:How about ol'roy? LMFAO kidding

will you shoot me a copy when you get a chance?

andy.r.cooper at gmail.com

Don't be hatin on Roy Fed some "bleep" good dogs back in the day.....

Had some real good luck with the Eagle Pac Power, just didn't agree with one of mine but otherwise seemed like a great feed

Can you add SportMix Energy Plus 24/20? It is This is Great! It is 552 K/cal per cup, 4,268 k/cal per KG. I just gave up on Diamond from all of the scares lately and changed to a combination of PP Performance and the Sportmix.

Thank you! This is a great idea!

birddog1968 wrote:

ACooper wrote:How about ol'roy? LMFAO kidding

will you shoot me a copy when you get a chance?

andy.r.cooper at gmail.com

Don't be hatin on Roy Fed some "bleep" good dogs back in the day.....

Thats what we feed when I was a kid.

bossman wrote:What a great offer. This is information we can all use. Please pm me your address. Would like to send you a gift certificate to a restaurant , LL Bean, Cabela's or whatever. Very generous of you...Hey mcbosco...thanks for throwing Victor in the group.

Thank you for the offer, but I can't accept. This is a gift to the forum.

Well, as Rudyard Kipling once said..."Your a better man than I Gunga Din"...This is a tremendous effort on your part. I am sure ever one on the forum greatly appreciates you unselfish contribution. Many thanks!

bossman wrote:Well, as Rudyard Kipling once said..."Your a better man than I Gunga Din"...This is a tremendous effort on your part. I am sure ever one on the forum greatly appreciates you unselfish contribution. Many thanks!

+1

Brad you should also give us a report on stools.. feed and measure, collect after digestion,.dehydrate, and weigh.. this should give us some insight in how digestable the food is.

You should have omega 3 fatty acids, omega 6/3 ratio and ash levels.

Ultra..Please tell me there shoud be a after your last post. Isn't that stuff we can be doing? Man, brad is doing us a favor. Don't think he's trying to turn it into a full time job. Hey, your out there on the beautiful "left" coast. Why don't you go up there (or down there) and give him a hand?

Brad was planning on finding a project to do.... He added another dog for his off work time and wanted something extra to do on his breaks and lunch (instead of BSing with me). I think he found his match. Maybe if we all pitched in we could find a cheap dehydrator.... Lol

Has anyone ever tried 4Life? I found it at Tractor Supply. The cost is good and there appear to be no fillers. The first listed item is meat and there is no corn. It appears to be very similar to Blue Buffalo and taste of the wild.

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Blue Horn wrote:Has anyone ever tried 4Life? I found it at Tractor Supply. The cost is good and there appear to be no fillers. The first listed item is meat and there is no corn. It appears to be very similar to Blue Buffalo and taste of the wild.

Please tell us what you consider a filler?

Ezzy

ultracarry wrote:Brad was planning on finding a project to do.... He added another dog for his off work time and wanted something extra to do on his breaks and lunch (instead of BSing with me). I think he found his match. Maybe if we all pitched in we could find a cheap dehydrator.... Lol

I have plenty things I want to do. I need add on to the pigeon coop, build a flight pen for chukar, WE need to go out and install that quail guzzer we were talking about, build another roading rig for the quad for that second dog. All those things cost money. This is free.

So this is just "Filler"!

Blue Horn wrote:Has anyone ever tried 4Life? I found it at Tractor Supply. The cost is good and there appear to be no fillers. The first listed item is meat and there is no corn. It appears to be very similar to Blue Buffalo and taste of the wild.

Do you mean 4Health?

Brad you forgot to add..... Buy Garrison a puppy and put it in his back yard.......

MNGSP wrote:I a currently feeding Nutrisource adult grain free chicken.
4,120 kcal per kg, 473 kcal per cup 30# bags for $38/bag

This looks like a very useful tool. Thanks for taking the time to put it together and share.

JJ

That looks like a nice formula with no fillers. Good price. That company also make lots of human foods so they probably have good quality control standards.

mcbosco wrote:That looks like a nice formula with no fillers. Good price. That company also make lots of human foods so they probably have good quality control standards.

My dogs are doing well on it. Nice coats, firm/compact stool, and they maintain well on it without having to eat a ton. My 7 year old female (52 Lbs.) gets 2 cups a day and my 15 month old male (48 Lbs) gets around 3 cups a day. Both dogs are fairly active getting 2 or 3 - 90 minute free runs a week with training and other activities mixed in. I'm hoping my male will taper down a bit after he's done growing.

In other words, I'm happy with the feed.

JJ

Abady Classic Granular. 40-lb box. $78 (price can vary depending upon where you shop). Rest of the info found here: http://therobertabadydogfoodcoltd.com/A ... ngredl.htm

claybuster_aa wrote:Abady Classic Granular. 40-lb box. $78 (price can vary depending upon where you shop). Rest of the info found here: http://therobertabadydogfoodcoltd.com/A ... ngredl.htm

Good call

This is an interesting concept. How will you quantify the quality control of each product? Do all of the companies measure the statistics in a uniform manner? If a company says there product is X % chicken by weight , do they measure the chicken wet then dehydrate the chicken with the fillers thus changing the percentage of chicken in the product. Where do they source there meat products ? Are they sourcing products from foreign countries without the same quality controls we have here in the U.S. .Are they rejected for human consumption? What is their record for products that have been recalled? I would greatly appreciate the answer to all of these questions. I have more but but these ought to keep you busy for a while!!!