fur loss

mkleisch · Post by **mkleisch** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:13 pm

Noticed a few tiny (dime sized) balding patches on the pooch. Going to call the vet, but I'm wondering if anyone has seen this before. He is eating and hasn't changed behavior and i don't see any redness or irritations. He also isn't chewing on the spots, or enough for me to notice. Nothing has changed in his diet, he is on Heart Guard and Certifect applied July 3.

dr tim · Post by **dr tim** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:23 am

Ringworm or demodectic mange can have this appearance. Your vet can tell between the two and figure out what you need to correct it.

Cajun Casey · Post by **Cajun Casey** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:36 am

It can also be bacterial, fungal other than ringworm, abrasion or any number of things. I expect some nicks and dings and if they aren't spreading, inflamed or bothering the dog, don't worry about it. His coat is a little thin, which can be a liver thing. You might try adding a little olive oil to his diet. A good tea tree oil shampoo would probably not be a bad idea, either.

mkleisch · Post by **mkleisch** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:54 am

Thanks!

mcbosco · Post by **mcbosco** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:37 am

It is hard to tell from the pictures but is there any symmetry to the hair loss?

Both ears, forelegs, eyes etc?

mkleisch · Post by **mkleisch** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:46 am

Nope.

Vet saw the pics and didn't feel we needed to rush in today. Got an appointment Thursday (closed Wed).

Post by **Sharon** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:55 pm

Looks like abrasions to me - went through a rough patch.
Mange normally starts on the face.

mkleisch · Post by **mkleisch** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:21 am

I was given antibiotics, antihistamine and a antibacterial shampoo. We shall see...

Cajun Casey · Post by **Cajun Casey** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:59 am

mkleisch wrote:Nope.

Vet saw the pics and didn't feel we needed to rush in today. Got an appointment Thursday (closed Wed).

What shampoo did they give you, just out of curiosity?

mkleisch · Post by **mkleisch** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:33 pm

I think i figured it out. Bill Jack Liver Treats, was the only thing I changed... The kicker is I've been using them to give him the pills... Do'h We'll see if that was it.

Cajun Casey · Post by **Cajun Casey** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:43 pm

mkleisch wrote:I think i figured it out. Bill Jack Liver Treats, was the only thing I changed... The kicker is I've been using them to give him the pills... Do'h We'll see if that was it.

I don't think I've ever heard of a dog being allergic to BilJac liver treats, but who knows.

By the way, make sure no one with asthma handles that shampoo. There have been problems with it.

mkleisch · Post by **mkleisch** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:55 am

I guess we'll see. Its the only thing I added/changed. Thanks for the shampoo tip

Savage Destiny · Post by **Savage Destiny** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:14 am

Sharon wrote:Looks like abrasions to me - went through a rough patch.
Mange normally starts on the face.

Not always! My Pit Bull girl had demodex as a pup, and the first place she lost hair was on a toe. She actually only ever got one small spot on her face, but got a good few on her torso and legs. Demodex was the first thing I thought when I saw the pictures in this thread.

mkleisch, you could always add some immune system boosters like astragalus to your pup's diet for a while. Won't hurt anything and can only help!

mkleisch · Post by **mkleisch** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:01 am

Was checked for mites by the vet and came up negative.

mkleisch · Post by **mkleisch** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:30 am

Doesn't appear to be a food/treat allergy reaction...

Post by **Sharon** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:02 am

mkleisch wrote:Was checked for mites by the vet and came up negative.

I had the same experience - no mites seen after a scraping. My vet put her on "Advantage Multi 55" and it cleared up the problem. ASK YOUR VET about it.

mkleisch · Post by **mkleisch** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:47 pm

He's on Certifect. Is that better or different because of allergies?

Post by **Sharon** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:07 pm

I don't know.

mkleisch · Post by **mkleisch** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:33 am

I'm going to switch anyways, I haven't found much on the web, but the amitraz in Certifect appear to have caused some dogs issues in the past

Cajun Casey · Post by **Cajun Casey** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:43 am

Try the ProZyme supplement that's mentioned elsewhere and see if it helps. Solid livers sometimes have weak coat until they are older.

As far as your spot on treatment, Certifect is way overdoing it unless you have a huge tick problem. Drop back to Advantix II or Frontline.

mkleisch · Post by **mkleisch** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:30 am

Will do thanks!

dr tim · Post by **dr tim** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:18 am

consider a shampoo that has ketoconazole in it for ringworm and use it weekly. In the beginning you said no itching to date, just fur loss as pictured. If nothing has changedof actually worsened as to the amount of fur loss and the skin scrapings were negative for mites, fungal issues would be high on the list.

mkleisch · Post by **mkleisch** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:36 am

I've noticed a few more little spots of hair loss while the older patches are starting to grow in. I am wondering about the Flea and Tick meds and am wanting to switch that. Should i skip a month? I will also be consulting my vet. I also sent some pics to Certifect and they called me back. I will be curious to see what they have to say as well.

mkleisch · Post by **mkleisch** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:32 am

I switched to Frontline, changed to Purina Pro Plan Performance and added some ProZyme. It seems to be getting better and looks as if all of those tests and meds were just a waste of $$.

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