Worming schedule

[Mstng_ray]

My pup goes back to the vet next week to get put on a regular heart worm monthly schedule. But it got me wondering about other worm problems. I haven't seen anything in her stool. And I have no reason to believe she has worms. She was wormed before I got her. But should I be giving her something else monthly or will the heart worm meds be enough?

[Cajun Casey]

Get Iverhart Max and it will get roundworms, whipworms and tapeworms in addition to preventing heartworms.

[ezzy333]

My pup goes back to the vet next week to get put on a regular heart worm monthly schedule. But it got me wondering about other worm problems. I haven't seen anything in her stool. And I have no reason to believe she has worms. She was wormed before I got her. But should I be giving her something else monthly or will the heart worm meds be enough?

Use either a liquid or paste Ivermec and you can save about 90% of the cost of one of the prepared products. But if you go some other way I would not worm every month. Best way is have the stool examined to see if there is a problem and in leu of that just do it every six months or so.

Ezzy

[Brazosvalleyvizslas]

I use Heartguard monthly for heart worms and Panacure (Fenbendazole) as needed for other parasites. I don't have a set schedule for the panacure as there are usually signs that a problem exists before it shows up in the stool. If he is going to be boarded I will give them a treatment otherwise it's pretty much an annual thing for me.

[shags]

Consider the life cycle of the parasite you're targeting and the wormer you choose. Worming generally gets rid of adult worms, but not larvae or ova. So you need to interrupt the cycle by killing off the adults, then repeating the worming procedure after those larva /ova mature but before they can produce more eggs.

Monthly worming can miss that window and your dog can can carry a continuous parasitic load. Worming twice, a couple weeks apart, can take care of things until the dog picks up another load from wherever dogs get worms.

I'm not a vet, but this is the advice given to me by a good old timey one, and it's worked for my dogs for many years. I usually worm my crew like this twice a year. They get Ivomec for heartworm monthly too. My little dog eats varmints and gets wormed for tapes as needed.

[jahwarrior1423]

Im not quite understanding what you guys mean by its not good to worm every month. I put my dog on the Banner Puppy plan because it made the cost of fixing him much cheaper and I was able to pay monthly rather than upfront...which made it easier on the wallet. But part of the puppy plan was a monthly heart worm preventative. And now I am done with the 6 month dosage and am suppose to go get him checked per puppy plan suggestion. Should I get him checked and opt out of giving him a monthly dosage now?...just a bit confused on how to prevent the issue.

[campgsp]

I give heart guard once a month to prevent heart worm. If you want to play it safe for other worms get a check up every six months for that. Like ezzy suggested. Unless your pup is going aroung eating animals I would just continue with the monthly heart worm pills and not worry about the rest. Until your annual check up like anything else jmo.

[ezzy333]

Im not quite understanding what you guys mean by its not good to worm every month. I put my dog on the Banner Puppy plan because it made the cost of fixing him much cheaper and I was able to pay monthly rather than upfront...which made it easier on the wallet. But part of the puppy plan was a monthly heart worm preventative. And now I am done with the 6 month dosage and am suppose to go get him checked per puppy plan suggestion. Should I get him checked and opt out of giving him a monthly dosage now?...just a bit confused on how to prevent the issue.

I know absolutely nothing about the Banner Puppy Plan and what it is about. Fill us in if you would.

As far as worming, once a month for heart worm, for other worms, every two weeks for 3 times when puppies and after that probably once per year if you are not expierencing problems.

I use Ivermec at a fairly heavy dose and have nor had to worm the older dogs for six years. The litter of pups we had were even clear. Look into the Ivermec protocol as it will save you a great amount of money and does a wonderful job.

Ezzy

[jahwarrior1423]

The Banner puppy plan is a year program. Its a monthly charge for a whole year and it offers free vet visits, 10% off medications, free spay/neuter, free ear swap, free heart worm test, etc. The puppy plan is through PetsMart...it made it easier on my wallet because I didnt need to pay $$$ upfront for neuturing my pup.

But now my pup is done with his 6 month dose of heart worm perventative and he is allowed a free heart worm test with this plan. I dont know if I should buy another 6 or 12 month dosage for him from Banner Health or what I should do exactly. Banner Health uses Worm Shield heartworm perventative and costs $40 for 6 months.

[ezzy333]

I would switch to one of the Ivomec products for horses or cattle as they are the same drug but a tenth of the cost. And very easy and safe to use I might add. Also if you haven't yet, I sure wouldn't neuter the pup till it is mature. That means wait till it is two to three years old. That in itself may save you several thousand dollars too.

Ezzy

[jahwarrior1423]

He has already been neutered. Wish I would have known before...he was neutered at 6-7 months

[Cajun Casey]

He has already been neutered. Wish I would have known before...he was neutered at 6-7 months

The AVMA and AHWS require annual heartworm testing to dispense preventatives. All of the available dog products contain at least one additional active ingredient which treats gastrointestinal parasites of certain species. Iverhart Plus is cheaper than what you are using. An annual blood test should set you back around fifty bucks. Shop around for a locally owned clinic.

[ezzy333]

Forget the blood test if you have been giving it every month and just put it on iVOMEC, NO BLOOD TEST NEEDED.

Ezzy

[jahwarrior1423]

Do you guys have a link to which one you guys use or the one I should buy?...

[dr tim]

Please, guys, if you are going to recommend ivermectin you must understand that roughly 35% of all herding dogs, including mixed breed herding dogs cannot tolerate this medicine at certain levels. the drug builds up in their neurological system quickly and they cannot excrete it. Using the cattle/pig product is fine but you need to know what dogs can handle it and which ones cannot. I have seen dogs die or require 3 weeks of hospitalization to pull them through an ivermectin toxicity.

You can by this stuff in feed stores but just know who can handle it, the dose to use and the frequency that is best to interrupt whichever worm cycle you are trying to address.

Herding dogs are cattle dogs, collies, etc. I know they are not the typical hunting dogs you are referring to but many on this site have other dogs as well, or they share this miracle drug with their friends pets.

The reason periodic heartworm tests are good is because one missed dose is enough to open the door for a heartworm to grow past the point of when ivermectin is effective. Thus, checking on occasion is to make sure preventative has been effective, and if not, treatment can be initiated before heartworm infection gets to the point of severe illness.

[Cajun Casey]

Please, guys, if you are going to recommend ivermectin you must understand that roughly 35% of all herding dogs, including mixed breed herding dogs cannot tolerate this medicine at certain levels. the drug builds up in their neurological system quickly and they cannot excrete it. Using the cattle/pig product is fine but you need to know what dogs can handle it and which ones cannot. I have seen dogs die or require 3 weeks of hospitalization to pull them through an ivermectin toxicity.

You can by this stuff in feed stores but just know who can handle it, the dose to use and the frequency that is best to interrupt whichever worm cycle you are trying to address.

Herding dogs are cattle dogs, collies, etc. I know they are not the typical hunting dogs you are referring to but many on this site have other dogs as well, or they share this miracle drug with their friends pets.

The reason periodic heartworm tests are good is because one missed dose is enough to open the door for a heartworm to grow past the point of when ivermectin is effective. Thus, checking on occasion is to make sure preventative has been effective, and if not, treatment can be initiated before heartworm infection gets to the point of severe illness.

I know that at least the marker, if not the gene itself, for ivermectin intolerance has been identified and pretty much proved the old anecdotal rule of "white feet, don't treat," as it was found mostly in white booted/collared dogs.

[MonsterDad]

There is a test for MDR-1 if anyone wants to double-check if their herding breed is at risk for ivermectin toxicity.

[gotpointers]

I have been using safeguard goat wormer for quite a few years. 1 Ml per 5 lbs body weight for three consecutive days. Cattle branded ivomec is something I have looked into but never used. From what I gathered never administer more than .60 Ml and to do this only oral not sub-q. Beaglesunlimited.com is where I gathered the safeguard information. Also the toxicity studies on the safeguard is reportedly low compared to others. Heartworm in my area is nearly a non issue so I am just after intestinal worm control. But flea and tick control would be of benefit to me. That's the sole reason I would consider Ivermectin but I'm still gathering information. Any opinions if a .40 oral dose would work on a 50 lb dog without problems? And what frequency if so?
Thanks

[RoostersMom]

I've seen no benefit to tick/flea control through the swine Ivermectin. I originally started using it at the 0.1 cc per 10 lbs that the beagle guys recommended. Since then, my vet worked up a schedule for me for this product and said that I was using about 2x's too much. So now, the 90lb dog gets .5 cc and the pointers (50lb avg) get .3cc. I do like you recommend on the safeguard - once a year I treat for 3 days - usually in the winter when I cease the ivermectin (if it's a really brutal winter, I'll stop the ivermec after the snow flies).

I don't ever give the Ivermec to foster dogs because of the toxicity issues with the herding types.

[dr tim]

Ivermectin doesn't work for fleas and ticks but does work for mites and lice.

The "white feet don't treat" adage is a good one as well.

[marysburg]

Does that include spaniels?