Problem with rear legs Yellow Lab

[Vman]

A customer brought me his 11mo. old Yellow Lab for some bird and gun introduction. I used pigeons first and the dog really didn`t show any desire to get or chase the pigeons. So I got out a chuckar and pulled some flight feathers and let the bird run around with the dog in pursuit. This got the dog excited and moving in the right direction. The dog Finally caught the bird and was carrying it around when we noticed the rear legs were like rubber. The dog laid down with the bird in mouth and tried to stand up and couildn`t. It tried several times to stand up and the legs just couldn`t do it. After a rest of about 2 minutes the dog tried to stand up again and it was very wobbly and was falling down. Right away we suspected bad hips. But I told him too not jump the gun, lets not assume anything.
I have never had a dog with bad hips or neurological problems, so I have no experience with this stuff. Is there anyone here that has had a problem such as this? Would thyroid cause this? He is taking the dog into his Vet for some tests but I thought I would ask here also.
Any input is welcome.

[ezzy333]

Wouldn't be sugar would it?

Ezzy

[Cajun Casey]

What are the EIC clearances on the parents?

[Vman]

What are the EIC clearances on the parents?

I am sure there were no EIC clearances for these pups. I told him too ask for an OFA number on both parents, rather than them saying the hips were certified. Certified by who or what? Feel bad for the guy as he has a bum dog at home and then turns around and gets stung again. But education costs money and he is getting his monies worth.

[Vman]

Maybe CNM ??

[ACooper]

Sounds like the EIC affected dog my buddy had.

[birddog1968]

Sounds like the EIC affected dog my buddy had.

+1, this is why back yard or breeders who don't do genetic testing should be avoided.......

[Del Lolo]

Hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) does not just affect the rear leggs.

For a movie of EIC, click here http://www.cvm.umn.edu/vbs/faculty/Mick ... /home.html

For a movie of CNM, click here http://www.labradorcnm.com/pages/site/0-frame_site.html

[ACooper]

Isn't CNM a constant thing and the dog is affected constantly and is seen from an early age, where EIC is something comes on with excitement or exertion?

[mountaindogs]

Sounds like EIC to me. I have trouble with direct links from the kindle. Copy paste this webaddress:
http://www.cvm.umn.edu/vbs/faculty/Mick ... /home.html

[krakadawn]

I'd hate to diagnose over the net but that is a classic EIC response. The only way to rule it out is to do the test which is quite inexpensive. If it returns as clear or carrier then you can begin to look elsewhere for cause. If it returns 'affected', then you have your answer. I severely doubt that this is a hip issue.

We have been preaching(sorry to use that analogy) for awhile but some people are still breeding without any formal testing at all and some are still just doing hips and elbows. The world has changed in the last few years at least testing in the dog world has.

As 'the trainer' you need to be very aware of this condition....just think what would have happened in the water!

[polmaise]

A customer brought me his 11mo. old Yellow Lab for some bird and gun introduction. I used pigeons first and the dog really didn`t show any desire to get or chase the pigeons. So I got out a chuckar and pulled some flight feathers and let the bird run around with the dog in pursuit. This got the dog excited and moving in the right direction. The dog Finally caught the bird and was carrying it around when we noticed the rear legs were like rubber. The dog laid down with the bird in mouth and tried to stand up and couildn`t. It tried several times to stand up and the legs just couldn`t do it. After a rest of about 2 minutes the dog tried to stand up again and it was very wobbly and was falling down. Right away we suspected bad hips. But I told him too not jump the gun, lets not assume anything.
I have never had a dog with bad hips or neurological problems, so I have no experience with this stuff. Is there anyone here that has had a problem such as this? Would thyroid cause this? He is taking the dog into his Vet for some tests but I thought I would ask here also.
Any input is welcome.

Vet.

[dog dr]

update?

[frontline]

No need to see the vet if it is EIC and it sounds like a typical collapse. A lot of vets haven't heard about EIC. EIC test is $65 at the Univ. of Minnesota, they are the ones that discovered the gene mutation. Contact them and they will send out some cheek swabs, you send them back and results are sent to you.. http://www.vdl.umn.edu/ourservices/cani ... /home.html Turnover time is 3-4 weeks. Other DNA labs were doing the test until the patent took effect. This is a test that should be done on all labs that are used for breeding. It's easy to avoid producing dogs that will be affected by selective breeding.. When purchasing a lab puppy be sure to ask the breeder for proof of this test.

Additional information on this test: "This test was developed through financial support from the AKC Canine Health Foundation. To date, proceeds from EIC testing at the University of Minnesota have returned more than $100,000 to the AKC Canine Health Foundation to further its mission to improve the health of all dogs. Drs. Mickelson, Patterson, and Taylor, and Ms. Minor are the patent owners of this genetic test, a portion of the proceeds go toward patent royalties."

[Del Lolo]

For a movie of EIC, click here http://www.cvm.umn.edu/vbs/faculty/Mick ... /home.html

For a movie of CNM, click here http://www.labradorcnm.com/pages/site/0-frame_site.html

[Vman]

Update, I seen the owner and he says everything is fine, it was just a fluke thing he says :roll: I think be is afraid to find the real answer as it will be not what he wants to hear. But EIS sure seems to be what I seen.

[Del Lolo]

For a movie of EIC, click here http://www.cvm.umn.edu/vbs/faculty/Mick ... /home.html

For a movie of CNM, click here http://www.labradorcnm.com/pages/site/0-frame_site.html

Which video was your dog like ?