Skin irritation
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:14 am
My dog is 5 years old. For the past two months i have noticed his skin on the right front arm is irritated. Is this s skin irritation or something else? Thanks for your input. 

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Your advice is the same as I have heard before but there are somethings that need correcting. Most allergies are not related to food at all. Food allergies are quite rare but environmental allergies prevail. It's most likely to be certain weeds or plants and can be molds or other dusts or organisms. Even though food allergies are rare, allergies to grain is almost none existent. Practically all food allergies are related o the protein sources and not a bland form of carbohydrates which are largely just starch. Most of what you are saying comes directly from the marketing department of some dogfood company that is despertly trying to carve out a market in a mature business that has little room for newcomersTimewise65 wrote:I would see a vet, but looks like a spot from licking his fur. I would think allergy first, most allergies are food related and can occur anytime during a dogs life. I would try a grain free food for a few months....as grains are commonly an allergy issue for dogs. Next I would thing and medications that are new or health food, vitamins, etc. If something new has started, I would stop for a time.
Meanwhile give the dog some Benadryl, look on the internet for the proper dosage for a dog you size of dog. Give it to him daily as doasage is shown, and if this clears up in a few days, you will know for sure it is an allergy.....
Or best, take him to the vet...
Good Luck
I agree but I do not diagnose over the internet.bobman wrote:it's the start of a lick granuloma it can be something as simple as boredom
try a 50/50 mixture of anti biotic ointment and hydrocortisone ointment mix them in the palm of your hand then apply right before you take the dog out for a walk so he doesn't just lick it off
if you can get it to heal it will probably not be chronic
ezzy333....seems odd you would spend so much time contradicting something that is common knowledge, do you work in our take benefits from a dog food manufacture?ezzy333 wrote:Your advice is the same as I have heard before but there are somethings that need correcting. Most allergies are not related to food at all. Food allergies are quite rare but environmental allergies prevail. It's most likely to be certain weeds or plants and can be molds or other dusts or organisms. Even though food allergies are rare, allergies to grain is almost none existent. Practically all food allergies are related o the protein sources and not a bland form of carbohydrates which are largely just starch. Most of what you are saying comes directly from the marketing department of some dogfood company that is despertly trying to carve out a market in a mature business that has little room for newcomersTimewise65 wrote:I would see a vet, but looks like a spot from licking his fur. I would think allergy first, most allergies are food related and can occur anytime during a dogs life. I would try a grain free food for a few months....as grains are commonly an allergy issue for dogs. Next I would thing and medications that are new or health food, vitamins, etc. If something new has started, I would stop for a time.
Meanwhile give the dog some Benadryl, look on the internet for the proper dosage for a dog you size of dog. Give it to him daily as doasage is shown, and if this clears up in a few days, you will know for sure it is an allergy.....
Or best, take him to the vet...
Good Luck
Just had a long conversation with my vet this morning - and he's a pretty good derm guy- and all the grain free foods haven't really put a dent in skin problems as far he can tell in his practice. Not to say some dogs don't have sensitivities to foodstuff, but not every itch is food related.Timewise65 wrote:ezzy333....seems odd you would spend so much time contradicting something that is common knowledge, do you work in our take benefits from a dog food manufacture?ezzy333 wrote:Your advice is the same as I have heard before but there are somethings that need correcting. Most allergies are not related to food at all. Food allergies are quite rare but environmental allergies prevail. It's most likely to be certain weeds or plants and can be molds or other dusts or organisms. Even though food allergies are rare, allergies to grain is almost none existent. Practically all food allergies are related o the protein sources and not a bland form of carbohydrates which are largely just starch. Most of what you are saying comes directly from the marketing department of some dogfood company that is despertly trying to carve out a market in a mature business that has little room for newcomersTimewise65 wrote:I would see a vet, but looks like a spot from licking his fur. I would think allergy first, most allergies are food related and can occur anytime during a dogs life. I would try a grain free food for a few months....as grains are commonly an allergy issue for dogs. Next I would thing and medications that are new or health food, vitamins, etc. If something new has started, I would stop for a time.
Meanwhile give the dog some Benadryl, look on the internet for the proper dosage for a dog you size of dog. Give it to him daily as doasage is shown, and if this clears up in a few days, you will know for sure it is an allergy.....
Or best, take him to the vet...
Good Luck
As for me, I am not in anyway involved in the dog food industry as you loosely suggest, but I am involved with gun dogs and have been for over 30 years now. Over these years, with many dogs, and great professional trainers and many great vets who all have advised me that dog allergies are "usually" food related! The only part of your comment that had a small grain of truth (pardon the pun) was your comment on dog foods. But you failed to point out the fact that in the last 10 years most all dog food manufactures have began offering 'grain free' food and many new companies have emerged using grain free products are a primary product line. And if you have not noticed, grain free products have changed this market forever! But I am sure this is all just good marketing the vets, pro's, and owners are just plain stupid! Right?
Timewise, I am sorry if you thought I was blaming you or thinking you worked for a dog food company as that didn't enter my mind while reading your post. I did try to correct some of the things you were posting and that is based on being involved for many years in the manufacturing and marketing, but much longer in the research and quality assurance areas. I do understand what is going on in the industry and right now we are in the midst of people who have been convinced by marketing people that grain is not good. Many companies are aware of what is easy to sell and jump on the band wagon. But interestingly, most of the old reliable companies that are still feeding most of our performance and show competions dogs are still making the same feeds that have worked for years in those ares and the feeds have made little if any changes. And for your info I have not seen any evidence that grain free is a change that will forever change how we feed. All it will take to change things is for everyone to feed grain free and then some company will come out with a new and improved feed that has grain in it and we will see things start back to where we started. It has happened a million times through out history and it will continue to happen. And also just for your info, as I think many if not most know I have been involved with dogs for well over 60 years and during that time have raised, trained and boarded hundreds if not more and I practiced what I found was true while working with the feed industry for over 40 years before I retired. I am not is the business of trying to sell anything but I have for the past twenty years devoted a lot of time trying to teach people what I was lucky enough to be taught and experienced. There are many many things you probably know more about than I do so this is in no way a put down of you. but it just happens to be a subject I am very familiar with.Timewise65 wrote:
As for me, I am not in anyway involved in the dog food industry as you loosely suggest, but I am involved with gun dogs and have been for over 30 years now. Over these years, with many dogs, and great professional trainers and many great vets who all have advised me that dog allergies are "usually" food related! The only part of your comment that had a small grain of truth (pardon the pun) was your comment on dog foods. But you failed to point out the fact that in the last 10 years most all dog food manufactures have began offering 'grain free' food and many new companies have emerged using grain free products are a primary product line. And if you have not noticed, grain free products have changed this market forever! But I am sure this is all just good marketing the vets, pro's, and owners are just plain stupid! Right?
You are absolutely right and did you notice not a single person said you should change yours. They did comment on what is pretty much common knowledge and has been the common method of feeding for years. the evidence that it works is all around us and if you want to research it you will find a lot of supporting evidence that has been published. Good luck.Timewise65 wrote:Opinionsare like 'belly buttons' everyone has one!
I agree with everything you said, with a few modifications noted in CAPS! I have found in life when someone is absolutely, positively sure they are correct....be very suspect!ezzy333 wrote:You are absolutely right and did you notice not a single person said you should change yours. They did comment on what THEY BELEIVE is pretty much common knowledge and has been the common method of feeding for years (IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN DONE THAT WAY?). the evidence that it works OR DOESN'T is all around us (WHO HAS NOT LOST A DOG TO CANCER) and if you want to research it you will find a lot of supporting evidence BOTH FOR AND AGAINST that has been published. Good luck.Timewise65 wrote:Opinionsare like 'belly buttons' everyone has one!
Ezzy
I think that is a true statement but being suspicious does not mean they are wrong. I do hate that you changed what I wrote but labeled it as a quote. The quote feature is for actual quotes and should never be used when a quote is changed. You may have noted but just chose to ignore it when I said you can do(which kind of implies what you think) what you want but both research and experience shows what we are doing works. You can't argue with that if you look around an note what and how most people feed and care for their dogs. It also just doesn't sit well with most people when someone states that research results are just someone's opinion. Most research is carefully done, replicated and then pier reviewed before being published. I also noted there has been minor changes and there will continue to be in the future because there is not a positively correct method that will not change as new methods of testing along with new ingredients become available. This is just the way things happen when we are dealing with living animals. I for one at least see and hear the evidence everyday, here at home as well as practically every member of this forum talking about the performances of their dogs.Timewise65 wrote:I agree with everything you said, with a few modifications noted in CAPS! I have found in life when someone is absolutely, positively sure they are correct....be very suspect!ezzy333 wrote:You are absolutely right and did you notice not a single person said you should change yours. They did comment on what THEY BELEIVE is pretty much common knowledge and has been the common method of feeding for years (IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN DONE THAT WAY?). the evidence that it works OR DOESN'T is all around us (WHO HAS NOT LOST A DOG TO CANCER) and if you want to research it you will find a lot of supporting evidence BOTH FOR AND AGAINST that has been published. Good luck.Timewise65 wrote:Opinionsare like 'belly buttons' everyone has one!
Ezzy
Difference is it is not position. I am just reporting what research and test results have proven or at least reported. Of course maybe they are all wrong. For your sake I spent a few minutes looking up allergies in dogs and No.1 is environmental such as weeds or pollen and such, No. 2 is fleas, lice or mites of some source, and No.3 is proteins in a food source. I had forgotten about No.2 as I never think of fleas being an allergy source. By the way , I am not being sensitive about quotes but rather explaining what a quote is since the word does mean something and I don't believe anyone wants to have someone else telling everyone what they said when they didn't say it. Just not kosher and will not be allowed here on the forum. We like to protect our members and keep everything honest if not accurate.Timewise65 wrote:ezzy.....
Don't be too sensitive about quotes....If I had wanted to miss lead anyone I would have put your comments in "quotations".... :roll:
You are the first I heard say that when they lose a dog to cancer, they no exactly what caused it. I know vets can tell us what research is saying, but seldom if ever have I heard someone say they absolutely know what the root cause was!
As for your attempts to convince me and others about the good or bad related to grain free food, the folks I have ran around with for years, are mostly all grain free....now were talking about professional trainers, breeders, and folks who run their dogs in hunt tests and field trials. Of course you need to realize that I run retrievers not upland, so maybe that makes a difference....
But, the one thing I know for sure is that many disagree with your position and many disagree with mine....
Nuff Said!
So what did your vet say?philbous wrote:My dog is 5 years old. For the past two months i have noticed his skin on the right front arm is irritated. Is this s skin irritation or something else? Thanks for your input.