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Puppy Food Question?

Post by MSU Aggie » Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:30 am

How many of you use the specific puppy foods versus feeding a normal high quality food. Think Pro Plan Large Breed Puppy vs. Pro Plan Performance 30/20. If you feed puppy food how long?

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Post by Dakotazeb » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:31 am

I've always fed the "Puppy" formula for the first year and it's worked well for me. I'm sure you will get a variety of opinions on the subject.
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Post by ezzy333 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:14 am

Dakotazeb wrote:I've always fed the "Puppy" formula for the first year and it's worked well for me. I'm sure you will get a variety of opinions on the subject.
I have done both and have gotten much better results from not using puppy food at all. Pups get same food mom is eating.
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Post by Gordon Guy » Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:54 am

Recently with this current pup I'll feed One 40lb bag of Diamond large breed puppy and after this bag is gone I'll switch her over to what I feed the adults. I want a slower growing and thinner puppy.
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Post by Sharon » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:55 pm

no puppy food here
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Post by AAA Gundogs » Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:54 pm

Funny enough, many guys that do exceptionally well in the field trial game feed nothing but puppy food to all their dogs.

Frankly, the question isn't a question of puppy vs adult. It is which food is better, a or b, regardless of how it's being marketed.

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Post by MSU Aggie » Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:30 pm

Thanks for the replies. I usually do a bag or two then switched. But I've recently switched vets and he is a big proponent of feeding it for a full year.

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Post by ezzy333 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:42 pm

AAA Gundogs wrote:Funny enough, many guys that do exceptionally well in the field trial game feed nothing but puppy food to all their dogs.

Frankly, the question isn't a question of puppy vs adult. It is which food is better, a or b, regardless of how it's being marketed.
There is nothing wrong with puppy food. I just don't like the results when fed for a period of time to a pup.
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Post by Sharon » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:04 pm

You pay a lot more for puppy food /kg and when I compared the ingredients with an adult sport brand( fat: protein) , I saw little difference.
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Post by ezzy333 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:17 pm

Sharon wrote:You pay a lot more for puppy food /kg and when I compared the ingredients with an adult sport brand( fat: protein) , I saw little difference.
Their are some difference in minerals as well as carbs and vitamins but nothing major. What I don't like is too fast of growth and easy to over feed.I would prefer a good adult diet with some additives like milk and oil to soften the feed when they start eating and let them nibble and chew as they progress. I want to see the pups a little lean and my billfold fat.
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Post by Sharon » Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:20 pm

LOL Me too.!
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Post by Dakotazeb » Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:55 am

Most puppy formulas contain DHA for improved brain development. Not sure all the adult formulas contain DHA. Again, whether to feed puppy formulas or not and for how long appears to be a personal preference based on personal experience.
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Post by reba » Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:21 am

Mostly it is the size of the kibble :D

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Post by MonsterDad » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:05 pm

No sporting breed except for Spinone, Bracco and maybe a Chessie would be considered a "large" breed.

Just use a quality food with 30% protein. Smaller and Medium breed dogs don't have the same growth rate and growth range as the larger dogs I mentioned.

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Post by Sharon » Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:23 pm

Dakotazeb wrote:Most puppy formulas contain DHA for improved brain development. Not sure all the adult formulas contain DHA. Again, whether to feed puppy formulas or not and for how long appears to be a personal preference based on personal experience.

Good point . One I use for puppies which has DHA - essential imo.

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Post by AZ Brittany Guy » Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:58 pm

How much of puppy feed is just marketing and how much is really beneficial?

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Post by Sharon » Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:37 pm

I think that DHA which is normally only found in puppy food is essential. I did a Google read on DHA and it reminded me of just how valuable it it.
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Post by ezzy333 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 6:53 pm

Sharon wrote:I think that DHA which is normally only found in puppy food is essential. I did a Google read on DHA and it reminded me of just how valuable it it.
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It may be good but not essential or probably well over half of the dogs alive today would be dead.
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Post by Spy Car » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:03 pm

A dog can be alive and still have sub-optimal brain development.

That goes for people too.

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Post by Sharon » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:07 pm

LOL This is true.
I didn't mean essential for life , I meant essential for optimum brain growth.


"DHA (Docosahexaenoic Acid) is natural omega-3 fatty acid essential in the development of the brain and nervous system in young mammals." quote

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Post by Spy Car » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:18 pm

Sharon wrote:LOL This is true.
I didn't mean essential for life , I meant essential for optimum brain growth.


"DHA (Docosahexaenoic Acid) is natural omega-3 fatty acid essential in the development of the brain and nervous system in young mammals." quote

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Eh, you know, some people get it, others don't. Who knows why?

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Post by Big Dave » Sun Aug 07, 2016 7:52 pm

Pro Pac Performance Puppy is cheaper than Pro Pac Performance. This is the only case I know of that the puppy is cheaper.

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Post by cjhills » Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:40 pm

Big Dave wrote:Pro Pac Performance Puppy is cheaper than Pro Pac Performance. This is the only case I know of that the puppy is cheaper.
Purina Pro Plan puppy Chicken and rice is the same price as Purina Performance 30/20. My puppies do better on that than any other food I have tried. It is a bit lower in Protein,28/18 Which I like, 30 is a little to high.
Large breed is generally for dogs that will mature over 50 pounds so A good share of pointing breeds and most retrievers are in that range. Use good food and limit the amount and you will have healthy, happy puppies.......Cj

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Post by AAA Gundogs » Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:46 pm

Big Dave wrote:Pro Pac Performance Puppy is cheaper than Pro Pac Performance. This is the only case I know of that the puppy is cheaper.
And I know a few midlands pros that feed it and are very happy with it.

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Post by SHaRPS » Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:48 pm

All of my pups get the Orijen Puppy formula for the first 11 months. I then mix the Puppy with the Orijen Regional Red on month 12 and 13 and then switch to the Reg. Red for good.

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Post by oregon woodsmoke » Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:58 pm

Sharon wrote:
Dakotazeb wrote:Most puppy formulas contain DHA for improved brain development. ...........
So does a fish oil capsule. Not that I have any opinion on puppy food since I don't feed kibble. But a person could feed their favorite dog food and drop a fish oil capsule into the supper dish. All of my dogs like the fish oil capsules and there isn't any problem with feeding them.

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Post by Nadine » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:07 am

I custom mix my kibble. I do use Both Pro Plan Puppy and Pro Plan 30/20 Sport as a base mix. Both are good foods and have used them for years. I feed puppy and Sport mixes to all my dogs regardless of age. When feeding my dogs I generally go by protein/fat and overall calories and how active my dogs are when trying to determine how often/what to feed.

My general feeding layout:

50% of my kibble is Either Eukanuba,Purina Pro Plan, or Mix of Both.
-Eukanuba- Puppy Lamb or Chicken
-Eukanuba- Adult Lamb or Chicken
-Eukanuba- Performance 30/20
-Pro Plan- Focus Puppy Lamb or Chicken
-Pro Plan 30/20 Sport

35% of my kibble is Random Quality Kibble (Meaning whatever is on sale at the time I purchase dog food. There are some brands I will not use regardless of price.)
15% is kibble high in calories. (These are foods that are higher then most performance foods and puppy kibbles. 500 + calories per cup.) *I use these as an additive to help keep a good overall healthy weight. Especially for over active dogs and/or fussy eaters. (Any dog that burns more calories than they take in.)
-Evo- Red Meat
-Royal Canin- Mini Special
-Canidae- Limited Ingredient Grain Free lamb Adult
-Bullymax 30/20
-Adirondack 30% Puppy/Dog Performance

That is my basic run down of how i feed my dogs/puppies. Every dog is different so feed what works for you and your dog for both health and cost. Hope this helped a bit and hope i did not stray to far from the topic.

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