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Dog Foods Online Question...

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:54 am
by CRaul.M01
I read online that by-products can contain hair, hooves and floor sweepings, is this true? We Always order our Dog and Cat online on this sites:
https://www.petfooddirect.com or http://www.happypetsnow.com/

and so far everything is fine and normal want wanna know if you encounter this problems and sometime they eat table food as well. Thanks and Cheers to ya'll.

Re: Dog Foods Online Question...

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:50 am
by ezzy333
By-products are probably the best thing you can find in a dog food as it contains all of the various parts of the carcass that are not used in the main product that a slaughter house sells. It contains a wide scope of nutritional goodies all in one product. However it has to meet the same standards that all other products have to meet. It is not a reason to ever shy away from a food.

Re: Dog Foods Online Question...

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:02 am
by MonsterDad
Chicken and turkey by-products are generally skin, undeveloped eggs, organs, feet and necks. Mammal ingredients like Lamb for example can just be called 'Lamb". You would have to ask regulators why chicken and turkey have two definitions but Lamb has one.

It is a shame people worry about this and sad the internet has such information.

Re: Dog Foods Online Question...

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:25 am
by ezzy333
MonsterDad wrote:Chicken and turkey by-products are generally skin, undeveloped eggs, organs, feet and necks. Mammal ingredients like Lamb for example can just be called 'Lamb". You would have to ask regulators why chicken and turkey have two definitions but Lamb has one.

It is a shame people worry about this and sad the internet has such information.
The label is required to have certain info so if it is chicken it will be labeled chicken, turkey labeled as turkey, and lamb as lamb.

Re: Dog Foods Online Question...

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:51 am
by oldbeek
CRaul.M01 wrote:I read online that by-products can contain hair, hooves and floor sweepings, is this true? We Always order our Dog and Cat online on this sites:
https://www.petfooddirect.com or http://www.happypetsnow.com/

and so far everything is fine and normal want wanna know if you encounter this problems and sometime they eat table food as well. Thanks and Cheers to ya'll.
Have you looked into chewys.com Purina sport pro plan 3020 is around $40.00 over $50.00 ships free

Re: Dog Foods Online Question...

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 12:13 pm
by MonsterDad
ezzy333 wrote:
MonsterDad wrote:Chicken and turkey by-products are generally skin, undeveloped eggs, organs, feet and necks. Mammal ingredients like Lamb for example can just be called 'Lamb". You would have to ask regulators why chicken and turkey have two definitions but Lamb has one.

It is a shame people worry about this and sad the internet has such information.
The label is required to have certain info so if it is chicken it will be labeled chicken, turkey labeled as turkey, and lamb as lamb.
The definition of Lamb includes lamb by-products, like organs, bones etc. The word 'tissue" is used so that includes bones and organs.

This is not the same as Chicken or Turkey, where chicken and turkey muscle meat are called one thing and other parts are called "by-products".

Re: Dog Foods Online Question...

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 12:22 pm
by ezzy333
MonsterDad wrote:
ezzy333 wrote:
MonsterDad wrote:Chicken and turkey by-products are generally skin, undeveloped eggs, organs, feet and necks. Mammal ingredients like Lamb for example can just be called 'Lamb". You would have to ask regulators why chicken and turkey have two definitions but Lamb has one.

It is a shame people worry about this and sad the internet has such information.
The label is required to have certain info so if it is chicken it will be labeled chicken, turkey labeled as turkey, and lamb as lamb.
The definition of Lamb includes lamb by-products, like organs, bones etc. The word 'tissue" is used so that includes bones and organs.

This is not the same as Chicken or Turkey, where chicken and turkey muscle meat are called one thing and other parts are called "by-products".
I am not clear what you are asking. Anything can be a by-product that is left after the parts you are wanting are removed. if someone is harvesting the meat and the same is true with a lamb, pig, or cattle plant.

Re: Dog Foods Online Question...

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:39 pm
by cjhills
MonsterDad wrote:
ezzy333 wrote:
MonsterDad wrote:Chicken and turkey by-products are generally skin, undeveloped eggs, organs, feet and necks. Mammal ingredients like Lamb for example can just be called 'Lamb". You would have to ask regulators why chicken and turkey have two definitions but Lamb has one.

It is a shame people worry about this and sad the internet has such information.
The label is required to have certain info so if it is chicken it will be labeled chicken, turkey labeled as turkey, and lamb as lamb.
The definition of Lamb includes lamb by-products, like organs, bones etc. The word 'tissue" is used so that includes bones and organs.

This is not the same as Chicken or Turkey, where chicken and turkey muscle meat are called one thing and other parts are called "by-products".
Ezzy, Do you see question marks in munster's post? Munster is not asking you a question , but making a statement....Cj

Re: Dog Foods Online Question...

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:13 pm
by ezzy333
cjhills wrote:
MonsterDad wrote:
ezzy333 wrote:

The definition of Lamb includes lamb by-products, like organs, bones etc. The word 'tissue" is used so that includes bones and organs.

This is not the same as Chicken or Turkey, where chicken and turkey muscle meat are called one thing and other parts are called "by-products".
Ezzy, Do you see question marks in munster's post? Munster is not asking you a question , but making a statement....Cj
Nope, I sure didn't but I didn't realize we could only post if someone asked us to? Now that you explained it I didn't see any question marks addressed to you either.

Re: Dog Foods Online Question...

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:34 pm
by Spy Car
CRaul.M01 wrote:I read online that by-products can contain hair, hooves and floor sweepings, is this true? We Always order our Dog and Cat online on this sites:
https://www.petfooddirect.com or http://www.happypetsnow.com/

and so far everything is fine and normal want wanna know if you encounter this problems and sometime they eat table food as well. Thanks and Cheers to ya'll.
Legally by-products can not include hair, horns, teeth and hoofs, beyond a reasonable amount that might slip past processors.

Many of the things found in by-products are very beneficial, and it would be a shame to waste these things when they are good for dogs.

The ugly part is that slaughterhouses can let these otherwise healthful items slop on the ground and become quite contaminated, even to the point where they are condemned for human consumption by inspectors. And it is still legal to use the condemned ingredients—and even to state they were sourced from "USDA inspected plants" (without mentioning they were condemned at the slaughterhouse) so long as they are trucked to a rendering plant.

So the answer is complex. Many by-products (if fresh and wholesome) are fantastic ingredients for dogs to eat. But the reality is many of these by-products are rotten and spoiled by the time they are rendered into dog food.

Bill

Re: Dog Foods Online Question...

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:56 pm
by ezzy333
Spy Car wrote:
CRaul.M01 wrote:I read online that by-products can contain hair, hooves and floor sweepings, is this true? We Always order our Dog and Cat online on this sites:
https://www.petfooddirect.com or http://www.happypetsnow.com/

and so far everything is fine and normal want wanna know if you encounter this problems and sometime they eat table food as well. Thanks and Cheers to ya'll.
Legally by-products can not include hair, horns, teeth and hoofs, beyond a reasonable amount that might slip past processors.

Many of the things found in by-products are very beneficial, and it would be a shame to waste these things when they are good for dogs.

The ugly part is that slaughterhouses can let these otherwise healthful items slop on the ground and become quite contaminated, even to the point where they are condemned for human consumption by inspectors. And it is still legal to use the condemned ingredients—and even to state they were sourced from "USDA inspected plants" (without mentioning they were condemned at the slaughterhouse) so long as they are trucked to a rendering plant.

So the answer is complex. Many by-products (if fresh and wholesome) are fantastic ingredients for dogs to eat. But the reality is many of these by-products are rotten and spoiled by the time they are rendered into dog food.

Bill
This is not true in any way or form.

Re: Dog Foods Online Question...

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:53 am
by AAA Gundogs
ezzy333 wrote:
Spy Car wrote:
CRaul.M01 wrote:I read online that by-products can contain hair, hooves and floor sweepings, is this true? We Always order our Dog and Cat online on this sites:
https://www.petfooddirect.com or http://www.happypetsnow.com/

and so far everything is fine and normal want wanna know if you encounter this problems and sometime they eat table food as well. Thanks and Cheers to ya'll.
Legally by-products can not include hair, horns, teeth and hoofs, beyond a reasonable amount that might slip past processors.

Is this not true?

Many of the things found in by-products are very beneficial, and it would be a shame to waste these things when they are good for dogs.

Is this not true?
This is not true in any way or form.

Re: Dog Foods Online Question...

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 7:31 am
by SCT
My Lucy retrieved a rabbit carcass the other day while out running in grouse country. It smelled like maggots, but was too old to carry them. As I took it from her (thanks a lot Lucy) she bit off a back leg and chomped it down before I could grab it. She passed away the next day!!! Just KIDDING, it never phased her hahaha. I'm sure the old hair and toenails wreaked havoc on her system...NOT. I think if we knew how many human hairs, mice and rat droppings, and insects were in our own processed food some would just quit eating!!! Or, even better, switch to a strict whole food diet. We care more about our pets diets than our own, I'm am guilty of this so don't be offended.

Re: Dog Foods Online Question...

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:38 am
by CRaul.M01
Thank you for the feedback guys..