Hunting Dog Training & More    

Popular Searches: Garmin Astro | Dog Collars | Tri-Tronics | SPORTdog

Energy from Dog Food

Energy from Dog Food

Postby Dakotazeb » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:23 pm

Since my 1 year old female Brittany apparently has food allergies and tested positive for Lamb, Turkey, Rabbit, Salmon, Tomato, Peanut and Yeast. She was also borderline to positive for Chicken. With this information I have switched her from ProPlan Sport 30/20 (chicken) to one of the foods recommended by the testing laboratory. She is now on Canidae Grain Free Pure with Wild Boar. https://www.canidae.com/dog-food/produc ... ry-formula

The Canidae is 25% protein and 15% fat. My question is, will the Canidae provide as much energy for her as the ProPlan? This dog is a big running field trial dog and expends a lot of energy. She gets exercised pretty hard on a daily basis. I see the Canidae has 454 calories per cup compared to 475 for the ProPlan. So not a big difference there. She was getting 2 cups per day of the ProPlan and is getting 2 cups of the Canidae.

Any thoughts on the subject will be appreciated. I don't want this to become a dog food debate. I'm sticking with the Canidae until I'm able to determine if it's having a positive effect on her itchy skin.
User avatar
Dakotazeb
Rank: Champion
 
Posts: 341
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:10 pm
Location: South Dakota

Re: Energy from Dog Food

Postby shags » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:59 pm

I wouldn't worry about it at all until I saw a change for the worse in stamina or condition.

If she needs more calories you can add fat from whatever source is compatible with her allergy problem. My dogs love sardines packed in oil, so get more protein and fat that way. (Sorry, don't remember if fish is on the no go list for your dog).

Good luck with the new diet, hope it works.
shags
GDF Junkie
 
Posts: 1937
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:57 pm
Location: Please ADD LOCATION

Re: Energy from Dog Food

Postby Dakotazeb » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:12 pm

Yeah, I guess I'll just have to monitor her. Probably take a little while for her to adjust to the new food. She sure likes it though and chows down like never before. I'm a little gun shy on the fish as she was positive for Salmon and borderline for what they called Shellfish Mix. I did have her on a salmon supplement while she was on the ProPlan but discontinued that when we got the test results. Since the calorie content is quite similar the new food should not be an issue. I believe Canidae is a quality food. Should be for the price! :) $60 for a 24 lb. bag.
User avatar
Dakotazeb
Rank: Champion
 
Posts: 341
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:10 pm
Location: South Dakota

Re: Energy from Dog Food

Postby MonsterDad » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:36 am

You can also try Merrick Texas Beef Grain Free. I believe it is 38% protein and 18% fat.
MonsterDad
Rank: 3X Champion
 
Posts: 590
Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:10 pm
Location: Please ADD LOCATION

Re: Energy from Dog Food

Postby Dakotazeb » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:51 am

MonsterDad wrote:You can also try Merrick Texas Beef Grain Free. I believe it is 38% protein and 18% fat.


The Merrick Beef Grain Free contains Lamb Meal. She is positive for Lamb. It also appears that all the Merrick Grain Free formulas either contain lamb meal or chicken meal. I need to stay away from both. The Canidae Grain Free Pure with Wild Boar is one of the very few foods that doesn't have some form of lamb or chicken in it.
User avatar
Dakotazeb
Rank: Champion
 
Posts: 341
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:10 pm
Location: South Dakota

Re: Energy from Dog Food

Postby SHaRPS » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:47 am

She will be just fine. You can always add slightly more food to achieve your desired calorie intake.

I feed all 3 of my pointer Orijen Regional Red but you could give the 6 fish a try. There is no salmon in the 6 fish. (Mackerel, Pilchard, Hake, Flounder, Rockfish, Sole). Acana Freshwater fish also does not have salmon (it does have trout though which is a salmonoid) Blue Catfish and yellow perch. Wild Atlantic is also another option. The other benefit of a fish recipe is a fantastic coat. Both Orijen and Acana are made by Champion Pet Foods. Wellness should have some options as well.

Hope this helps!
SHaRPS
Rank: Junior Hunter
 
Posts: 68
Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:59 am
Location: Southern New England

Re: Energy from Dog Food

Postby Dakotazeb » Tue Aug 29, 2017 2:02 pm

She was borderline positive for what they called "Fish Mix" and "Shellfish Mix". Not sure what they are but right now I'm staying away from fish. The Canidae is one of the only foods that I've found that doesn't have lamb meal or some type of fish in it. As for now I have to stick with the Canidae to see if it works. Will take a couple of months to find out. 25% protein and 15% fat should be fine. And like SHaRPS said, I can adjust the amount of ration to get the desired results. That's what I did with my previous dog and she was on a 26/16 formula from NutriSource.
User avatar
Dakotazeb
Rank: Champion
 
Posts: 341
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:10 pm
Location: South Dakota

Re: Energy from Dog Food

Postby SHaRPS » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:18 am

Ah ok, I would stay away from the foods I mentioned if that is the case. Hopefully the Canidae works out.
SHaRPS
Rank: Junior Hunter
 
Posts: 68
Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:59 am
Location: Southern New England

Re: Energy from Dog Food

Postby Dakotazeb » Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:04 pm

Along this same line I have a question. How much protein and fat does a dog really need? In my case, I have a 14 month old female Brittany that will be both a hunting and a NSTRA field trial dog. When not hunting or trialing I exercise her pretty hard at least 6 days a week. She either gets run in the field for an hour or I road her with my bike and we do 6-9 miles at a 10-12 mph pace. She is in great condition. So what is the minimum protein and fat she should have in her food? As I stated in the original post on this thread she is currently on a Canidae Grain Free that is 25/15 and seems to be doing well with good energy and endurance.
User avatar
Dakotazeb
Rank: Champion
 
Posts: 341
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:10 pm
Location: South Dakota

Re: Energy from Dog Food

Postby shags » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:25 am

I have no degree in Dogfoodology, but in my real world experience, each dog needs what he needs. Some might need higher content, some do fine with lower - hard keepers and easy keepers, couch potatoes and high performance types.

If your dog is doing well on the current diet, then it must have what she needs to support her active lifestyle*. I wouldn't worry about it unless/until she fell off in some way.

*just reading her workout routine made me want to take a nap :D She's quite the go-er.
shags
GDF Junkie
 
Posts: 1937
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:57 pm
Location: Please ADD LOCATION


Return to Health and Nutrition

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests

| Pedigrees

THIS POST : Energy from Dog Food brought to you by Gun Dog Supply: Dog Training Collars & Hunting Dog Supplies

Click here to tweet this post

  • NOT logged in
  • Energy from Dog Food
  • ./viewtopic.php?f=88&t=52402&start=0&sid=ba17761cd8bb42b3955cd9cdd490ba48