Dog running away
Dog running away
Whenever I go exercise my pointer, he hunts for himself, runs off and then I spend my time looking for him. And I mean he just runs anywhere he wants, my shorthair keeps track of me and stays in front. Whats a good training technique to keep him hunting to the front but also keeping an eye on me and where I am at. Thanks
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Well me and you are kind of in the same boat. I have two new 8 mo. old pups and when I turn them loose to run, I have one dog that will stay with me and hardly ever get out of sight, but other dog will take off and sometime runs completely out of sight and does whatever he wants. So what I am doing now is getting them out of the kennel seperately and putting them on a checkcord. I make sure they stay with me and do not go anywhere. While they are on the cord I work on the here command and when they obey they get a treat and petted on. Hopefully with some time using this exercise I will be able to program them to stay with me and to come to me when called.
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kninebirddog
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First off I would stop lettung him run free..every time you allow this your training him to do it more
I prefer the Rick Smith method...
go back to yard work and start getting the dog to be a partner with you...it will take time to get him there ...but until he is with you and working with you ...I would stop letting him hunt and run for himself
yelling here whne he does this is also telling him words mean nothing
another reason I like Ricks methods it gets a dog to work with you with out words first the dogs starts to learn to cue off of you
but which ever you need to establish your the leader of the pack before he will work with you at 1 foot much less 100 yards or more out
pick a method don't bounce around till you have a method down
confusion will only lead to frustration
I prefer the Rick Smith method...
go back to yard work and start getting the dog to be a partner with you...it will take time to get him there ...but until he is with you and working with you ...I would stop letting him hunt and run for himself
yelling here whne he does this is also telling him words mean nothing
another reason I like Ricks methods it gets a dog to work with you with out words first the dogs starts to learn to cue off of you
but which ever you need to establish your the leader of the pack before he will work with you at 1 foot much less 100 yards or more out
pick a method don't bounce around till you have a method down
confusion will only lead to frustration
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Sell him to a trialer or move to a place with bigger fields!
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Get him into birds, plant birds, put him on a checkcord, and get him hunting. Some dogs are not running off but hunting, getting bigger and bigger, as they don't find birds. Use the checkcord in the yard to work on HERE or COME and stop allowing the free running.
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Get him into birds, plant birds, put him on a checkcord, and get him hunting. Some dogs are not running off but hunting, getting bigger and bigger, as they don't find birds. Use the checkcord in the yard to work on HERE or COME and stop allowing the free running.
He knows here just fine. We have worked on that alot. He responds to it, he is very hard headed, I have to increase the stimulation alot sometimes it seems to get him to obey. And I know he knows what "here" means. When we do yard training and I say "here" with very little stimulation he comes running every time. Out where there are distractions though he just gets very stubborn. He is 18 months old and I think the main problem is he runs in a straight line, and runs very fast. So he basically hauls "bleep" in one direction before I know it he is 500 yards away. What is the Rick Smith method. Can you give me a brief description. I have put him on about 15 birds. But we have such few wild birds. I just recently got access to some pigeons. So I will be working on him more in the future. Any other tips would be appreciated.
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Elk Hunter: Your dog does not respond to hear well, if you use any stimulation at all. You should not need stimulation if he knows it well.
The pigeons planted in a pattern closer to you each time out will start to help pup learn how to hunt. He wants birds and it just so happens where dad is the birds are. Right now he is running.
If you go back to basics and start working on the check cord with the birds and reenforce the basics and work on come around drills etc. your dog will start to mature. Cooperate
You have got good advice from the others. A shy timid dog you let go and do what they want until they are confident. A strong bold dog you control and mould. You won't loose the drive but you will gain the cooperation.
The pigeons planted in a pattern closer to you each time out will start to help pup learn how to hunt. He wants birds and it just so happens where dad is the birds are. Right now he is running.
If you go back to basics and start working on the check cord with the birds and reenforce the basics and work on come around drills etc. your dog will start to mature. Cooperate
You have got good advice from the others. A shy timid dog you let go and do what they want until they are confident. A strong bold dog you control and mould. You won't loose the drive but you will gain the cooperation.
The best part of training is seeing the light come on in your little prot'eg'e.
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kninebirddog
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What he needs is to go to new areas where your doing the same commands..and letting him know that here means here wherther your in the yard at the park or in the field
work it with a check cord
I will bet that on the check cord when your out of the regular training that he is pulling and dragging instead of quartering easily
basicaly until you can go any where and him working with you instead of pulling and dragging you ,,,he is already at that moment hunting for himself even though he is attahced to a lead
thus it shows up out in the field having to use higher stimualtion
same with the check cord having to cue harder with the cord
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work it with a check cord
I will bet that on the check cord when your out of the regular training that he is pulling and dragging instead of quartering easily
basicaly until you can go any where and him working with you instead of pulling and dragging you ,,,he is already at that moment hunting for himself even though he is attahced to a lead
thus it shows up out in the field having to use higher stimualtion
same with the check cord having to cue harder with the cord
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"When I hear somebody talk about a horse or cow being stupid, I figure its a sure sign that the animal has outfoxed them." Tom Dorrance
If you feel like you are banging your head against the wall, try using the door.
"When I hear somebody talk about a horse or cow being stupid, I figure its a sure sign that the animal has outfoxed them." Tom Dorrance
If you feel like you are banging your head against the wall, try using the door.
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From what you desrcibe, it doesn't sound like he is hunting at all. More like a bolter.
Does he find birds,often? Does he hold point so you can approach and flush? Does he retrieve within a few feet of you?
It also sounds as tho he has no respect for you and does not connect you with finding birds.
Has he ever taken out birds and if so, what does he do with them?
Does he find birds,often? Does he hold point so you can approach and flush? Does he retrieve within a few feet of you?
It also sounds as tho he has no respect for you and does not connect you with finding birds.
Has he ever taken out birds and if so, what does he do with them?
He finds them, but he wont hold point. He will point when we set it up with a CC and walk him into the bird. He is getting better and better each time. I am just comparing him to my GSP who was so easy to train, stood on his birds from the very beginning. Now I have my hands full with this out of control, more energy than i am used to. 
He looks really good on point, and will stand when he is on a CC, without he runs in and we launch the bird. So I think just more birds and repition wll help. He can find wild birds, he just flushes them though. He is getting better and better each time I take him out though.
He looks really good on point, and will stand when he is on a CC, without he runs in and we launch the bird. So I think just more birds and repition wll help. He can find wild birds, he just flushes them though. He is getting better and better each time I take him out though.