Rescued Boykin- 3-4 year old Male

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Rescued Boykin- 3-4 year old Male

Post by Kaveman74 » Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:31 am

I will attempt to keep this as short and digestable as I can but want to give enough detail so this may be long winded.
This pup was purchased for a kid as a pup, kid lost interest, pup has roamed. He's always been fed but never been cared for or loved on. I have had him for 2 days and we are getting him healthy first. We are beginning by getting this pup used to love and basic obedience. No pressure nor negative correction. He does come to his name and has a grip on "Here". He has a great desire to please and has latched onto me very quickly.

Now, I am attempting to plan for this pups future. I have a local WMA that is a great place, planted dove fields, and a wild quail population that is booming. I would love to use as a retriever for Doves and point/flush and retrieve quail.

Does anyone have any experience training older dogs or rescue type dogs? Is there a program out there that would be recommended? Most programs ive seen are based on a new puppy. Are those still applicable?

One concern I have is that he has no interest in toys. Can you teach the desire to retrieve if he has lost his natural vigor for it?

Just to clarify, this dog will not be under any pressure for a long time. He will be a pet first and if he never flushes a bird he will still be a pet in my home and be loved on for the rest of his life. I just think he would thrive when given a job.

Any insight is appreciated!

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Re: Rescued Boykin- 3-4 year old Male

Post by Sharon » Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:52 pm

I've had many a rescue . I was glad to hear you say, "This dog will not be under any pressure for a long time."
He has to learn to trust you.
Even playing with a toy, may make him hesitant if he has been abused/ignored in any way in the past.
To encourage you, I rescued a GSP from a pet store years ago. ( I know you are supporting the pet store business, but what about the dog?) He had been kept in a crate 24/7 for a year ++
After some time he turned out to be a great bird hunter.
All the best to you, and I hope to hear about his training going well in the future.
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Re: Rescued Boykin- 3-4 year old Male

Post by crackerd » Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:59 am

Be patient and kind with a Boykin, and once you gain his trust, you're likely to end up with the most companionable retriever out there. And seek out a retriever club or two in your area, or a training group, and chances are they'll welcome you and your pup with open arms. And can be right helpful too in your training - your training on your terms, though they might also have some well-intentioned (and competent) help. Your ambitions are most admirable in having a new best friend and family member above all else. If you were in Scotland, or if he were a converted Yank, as I've tried to get him to become, the man, the trainer, who could help you most, with empathy and sound advice, is forum member "Polmaise." Maybe he'll see your heartwarming post and share a little professional wisdom - go Boykin pro bono if you will - but in any event, best wishes to you and the little brown dog--

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Re: Rescued Boykin- 3-4 year old Male

Post by oregon woodsmoke » Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:36 pm

Training is very bonding for a dog. They love to have a leader to work for and work with. If you train, your dog will get closer to you.

Fetch does not have to be a game for a dog,. He does not have to enjoy playing fetch in order to be an excellent gun dog. He can learn that "fetch" is a work thing that pleases you, a part of the job that he does.

If you don't want to do anything to hurt him, you can train "fetch" with clicker training. Then if he doesn't enjoy it as a game, use fetch sparingly and only as part of his drill for work.

He will fetch game for you because you are his boss and because it is what makes you happy and earns him an attaboy.

We have had two spaniel gundogs and both of them thought is was stupid for me to throw the ball away if I wanted the ball. But both would find and fetch birds like champions. They were very keen for it even though throwing a stick for them earning me a scornful look.

Seriously, if you want to stand there and play fetch until your arm falls off, get a Labrador.

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Re: Rescued Boykin- 3-4 year old Male

Post by Sharon » Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:42 pm

oregon woodsmoke wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:36 pm
Training is very bonding for a dog. They love to have a leader to work for and work with. If you train, your dog will get closer to you.

Fetch does not have to be a game for a dog,. He does not have to enjoy playing fetch in order to be an excellent gun dog. He can learn that "fetch" is a work thing that pleases you, a part of the job that he does.

If you don't want to do anything to hurt him, you can train "fetch" with clicker training. Then if he doesn't enjoy it as a game, use fetch sparingly and only as part of his drill for work.

He will fetch game for you because you are his boss and because it is what makes you happy and earns him an attaboy.

We have had two spaniel gundogs and both of them thought is was stupid for me to throw the ball away if I wanted the ball. But both would find and fetch birds like champions. They were very keen for it even though throwing a stick for them earning me a scornful look.

Seriously, if you want to stand there and play fetch until your arm falls off, get a Labrador.

Hilarious! :)
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Re: Rescued Boykin- 3-4 year old Male

Post by Kaveman74 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:56 pm

Thanks for all the input. Very encouraging!

Does anyone recommend a certain program that would provide step by step of training a bird dog? I’m familiar with obedience training but never touched formal retreival/hunting/pointing training.


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Re: Rescued Boykin- 3-4 year old Male

Post by Kaveman74 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:59 pm

Thanks for the encouraging words and reassurance! Is there any training programs that progress through retrieval/hunting/pointing training? I see alot of YouTube videos but also understand those are professionals sharing a small snippet of what actually happens.


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