Who has a braque francais ?

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Who has a braque francais ?

Post by Michel » Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:10 pm

Who out there has a braque francais? I am curious if anyone on Gun dog forum has one. I was hoping some folks could share their experiences with them - hunting, house life etc. Please share the goods and the bads! Thank you.

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Post by RuttCrazed » Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:43 pm

How many are there in North America?

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Post by TheShadow » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:40 am

bringing this back from the dead!

just this morning I ran into a guy that had a "French Pointer". At first I thought it was a GSP pup but found out nope, it was a 2yr old french pointer by the name of Dusty. Braque Francais. I have to admit I was very interested in this dog because it just looked and worked so well. My british lab and this frenchy hit it off and played well.

I have no idea about this breed so I asked him. He works her on pheasant mainly and even does ducks! The thing he told me was although he uses an e-collar on her the initial training as a pup and teen he had to go soft. No harsh voices. No heavy hand. He actually trained the dog mainly with food and praise. Said the dog is wonderful and is very low key in the house. Almost like a couch potato. But in the field she explodes into a working machine. This really peaked my interest but of course I can’t get another dog. Also I’m use to a lab… but boy if I consider a pointer in the future I just might look into these French pointers. He claimed they are not as high strung as a GSP and are very manageable and not “hyper”. He said it not me! He said he had a GSP back in 1992 and felt they are very hard headed and hyper and more difficult to train. I forgot where he got this dog from but he actually flew out mid-west to pick it and the following month drove out there and picked her up.

I do not know anyone that has one let alone heard of one. But from what I saw I am impressed at its temperament. He had that girl trained up very well and she worked just like any GSP/EnglishP. Any thoughts?

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Post by MOOSE » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:04 pm

I know a couple very good breeders here in the states of them. PM me if you want their sites.
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Post by snowman » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:05 pm

Are these dogs recognised by the AKC?

Casey J.

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Post by TheShadow » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:19 pm

snowman wrote:Are these dogs recognised by the AKC?

Casey J.
The guy told me NO. But he did register his dog with the CKC and hopefully this summer with Navhda he said.

Well MOOSE I would but heh, can't get another dog. Maybe in a few years who knows!

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Post by Michel » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:39 pm

TheShadow wrote:
snowman wrote:Are these dogs recognised by the AKC?

Casey J.
The guy told me NO. But he did register his dog with the CKC and hopefully this summer with Navhda he said.

Well MOOSE I would but heh, can't get another dog. Maybe in a few years who knows!
I recognize the Braque Français many years ago to the CKC.
You may check my web page: www.braquepyrenees.com

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Post by MOOSE » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:40 pm

UKC will also register them.
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UWP UCD UMJ URO1 GRCH BNJ Rumor Has It CGC RN RD NA II- GSP

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Post by bobman » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:11 am

http://jerseysportingdogs.com/

this girl goes by "Kdog" on Upland journal seem to be pretty seroius about them and is a knowlegeable person I would contact her
currently two shorthairs, four english pointers, one Brittany, one SPRINGER a chihuahua and a min pin lol

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Post by RedGirls » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:46 pm

the jersey sporting dogs website states

"One thing to remember about this easy going, sensitive breed is that they require an owner that uses gentle training methods. This breed will not handle the heavy handed training procedures that some breeds are better suited for. Once they understand what it is that you want them to do, they will do it just to make you happy. That goes for in the field as well as in the home. All of our Braque Francais are house dogs. "


Awww, sounds like our Vizslas. :)

(Not that I'm partial or anything)

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Post by TheShadow » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:14 pm

wow, makes me want one! but i'm not a pointer guy (yet). But from what that site states is exactly what this guy told me. I wonder if he got it from this kennel? There can't be many french pointer breeders in the USA.

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Post by corytch » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:23 am

correct me if im wrong but i think the last mixing of breeds to create the brittany was with braque francais in the early 1900s

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Post by ezzy333 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:52 am

The Brittany evolved withthe peasants of that area and there is no history of what is in their background other than the neighbors dogs that hunted.

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Re: Who has a braque francais ?

Post by Ditch__Parrot » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:53 am

Braque du Bourbonnais- the other French Pointer

The Braque du Bourbonnais (brock-do-bor-bon-NAY) is one of the most ancient French pointers originally out of Bourbon, a region of central France. The breed was already known in 1598 as a dog skillful at hunting quail

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Re: Who has a braque francais ?

Post by Ditch__Parrot » Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:03 am

I should add that no I don't have one. For some reason I just find these little known gentle pointers interesting and will consider them for my next dog. Although I do lean a bit more towards the hard headed Germans.
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Re: Who has a braque francais ?

Post by Trekmoor » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:16 am

I first read about this breed around 20 years ago. I fancied one strongly and wondered why the Germans had bothered to invent the G.S.P. when this breed already existed. After enquiries I was told that his breed had not been developed with dealing with large game or with vermin killing in mind , the G.S.P. had been developed to deal with these in addition to its other duties. The G.S.P. is ,supposedly, a "tougher" dog.

I still fancied the French breed but could not find a single one in Britain at that time...........I bought my first G.S.P. and have not been sorry. I have kept my interest in the French breed and have now been in touch with a man who has worked them. He confirms everything that has already been said here. A very keen and efficient pointing/retrieving breed but pity help you if you have a heavy hand - the dog will not accept that kind of training.

I have still to see one in the flesh !

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